Abide in Christ, or in sin

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kennethcadwell

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amen. the answer(s) always in line with all of GOD'S WORD.

they judge themselves unworthy, and they are judged by their own words on judgment day.

even Jesus says He doesn't judge them, but HIS WORD does, because they reject HIS WORD.

Just like how God's word says one has to be obedient to His teachings and His commands that are given in the gospel message of salvation through Christ, yet some will say obedience is not needed.
What does Gods word say about those who do not obey the gospel message of Christ given in Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John ???

2 Thessalonians 1:8

In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:
 

Jimbone

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John 3:15-16 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life. For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

John 10:27-29
My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.

John 6:37
All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise [never] cast out.

John 5:24
Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.

Romans 11:29 For the gifts and the calling of God are irrevocable.

2 Corinthians 1:22 And who has also put his seal on us and given us his Spirit in our hearts as a guarantee.

1 John 5:13 I write these things to you who believe in the name of the Son of God that you may know that you have eternal life.

Philippians 1:6 And I am sure of this, that he who began a good work in you will bring it to completion at the day of Jesus Christ.

Ephesians 1:13-14 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that Holy Spirit of promise, which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory.

Ephesians 4:30 And do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, by whom you were sealed for the day of redemption.

Romans 8:33 Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth. Who is he that condemneth? [the devil, deceivers] It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.

1 John 5:10-13 Whoever believes in the Son of God has the testimony in himself. Whoever does not believe God has made him a liar, because he has not believed in the testimony that God has borne concerning his Son. And this is the testimony, that God gave us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. Whoever has the Son has life; whoever does not have the Son of God does not have life. I write these things to you who believe in the name of the Son of God that you may know that you have eternal life.

John 3:36 Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life; whoever does not obey the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God remains on him.

1 John 5:4 For everyone who has been born of God overcomes the world. And this is the victory that has overcome the world—our faith.

Romans 9:16 So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy.

Psalm 34:22 The Lord redeems the life of his servants; none of those who take refuge in him will be condemned.

Jude 24-25 Now unto him that is able to keep you from falling, and to present you faultless before the presence of his glory with exceeding joy, to the only wise God our Saviour, be glory and majesty, dominion and power, both now and ever. Amen.

Romans 8:38-39 For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come, nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
Well thank you and only took 14 pages of argument to get posted. Look brother I think you missed the whole point of that post, I talked about BOTH sides, sorry if you were offended by the little part you posted.
 
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Just like how God's word says one has to be obedient to His teachings and His commands that are given in the gospel message of salvation through Christ, yet some will say obedience is not needed.
What does Gods word say about those who do not obey the gospel message of Christ given in Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John ???

2 Thessalonians 1:8

In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:
from the language they use, even in the last five minutes, and all the time before that,
they don't read or understand GOD'S WORD, and don't like it......

since they keep on sinning, and aren't forgiven, could it be that they are simply too scared to come to Jesus because they think like the rcc heresy teaches that they are too sinful to approach Jesus ??
 
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atwhatcost

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Ya he said he felt inspired to write it, so he went to the internet and stole it from someone else. LOL! But he did add all the railing accusation parts against some unknown so called heretic? So give credit where credit is due. BAHABAHABAHABAHA!!!!

How phony can you get??? And ya'll sing his praises! BAHAHAHAHA!!! I CAN'T STOP LAUGHING!!!!
Let's recap.

I lost respect for you and don't trust you.

Now you lie about WV and laugh like someone who should be placed in the D ward. There goes credibility and love too. Your agenda was exposed, and you can't defend it, so you mock. So much for Spirit or truth.

You just went from normal-sized Christian to gnat-sized not-Christian.
 
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Sirk

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Let's recap.

I lost respect for you and don't trust you.

Now you lie about WV and laugh like someone who should be placed in the D ward. There goes credibility and love too. Your agenda was exposed, and you can't defend it, so you mock. So much for Spirit or truth.

You just went from normal-sized Christian to gnat-sized not-Christian.

BOOM!!




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atwhatcost

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If it will help you with tomotoes Id say keep a copy of in with your gardening stuff just be sure to laminate to protect



You can try to grow a stick in the mud too

a little fairy dust and you are all set
I have grown sticks in the mud. (Look up "bare root plants.")

I'm very disappointed. All this time I thought you were a Christian. I guess only if people agree with your "gospel." At least I know why you couldn't explain the pruning/purging thing. It wasn't me after all. It goes against your gospel.
 
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atwhatcost

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I told him that earlier when I check and rechecked that it was in there
Sad that you had to tell him, instead of checking it out himself. Sadder still that you laughed with him, instead of correcting him.
 
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atwhatcost

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Oh, I don't mind them having their fun. Who cares? They're lost heretics anyway. But I thought I'd let anyone who didn't bother to check it out for themselves that he lied again. It seems to be habit forming for him.
My hubby was one of the best at hating God, before he was regenerated. You just never know when God is going to open blind eyes.
 
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DesiredHaven

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Let's recap.

I lost respect for you and don't trust you.

Now you lie about WV and laugh like someone who should be placed in the D ward. There goes credibility and love too. Your agenda was exposed, and you can't defend it, so you mock. So much for Spirit or truth.

You just went from normal-sized Christian to gnat-sized not-Christian.

Awh... he must be sad right now
 
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DesiredHaven

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I have grown sticks in the mud. (Look up "bare root plants.")

I'm very disappointed. All this time I thought you were a Christian. I guess only if people agree with your "gospel." At least I know why you couldn't explain the pruning/purging thing. It wasn't me after all. It goes against your gospel.

 
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atwhatcost

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Not once have you apologized to me, so if you made a public apology it was never when I was logged on and present.
For I have asked you over 5 times in the past for an apology for how you have falsely accused me of things, and even made condemning remarks toward me. Not once in those threads did you apologize, nor did you even PM me and say sorry.
The bible says you are to go personally to the person you have wronged and apologize (make amends), not go off an apologize another time or publically when the person you have wronged is not around to hear it. It says you are to personally apologize to that person.

So once again another false allegation by you by saying I am making false allegations !!!
Give it a rest, will ya? Seriously, you just happen not to find the public apology, so you go with he never gave you one? And seriously? Your PMs don't work that you couldn't work this out between the two of you? Besides a lot of mocking, this thread is much more than a little scuffle between bros. How about reading what's going on, instead of deciding this is the moment you go for this problem?

I'm not saying you don't have problems with dc. I'm frustrated by your timing and where you decided to take this problem.

How many times have you forgotten to go back to some thread? Is it not possible that's all that happened? If it is, could it not be he's telling the truth instead of giving the infamous "false allegation?" In which case, do two wrongs make it suddenly right -- right here and right now, because this is all you can see right smack in the middle of this?

Honestly? Someone's signature says they don't go on post that take more than five pages. I see why now.
 
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Sirk

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Give it a rest, will ya? Seriously, you just happen not to find the public apology, so you go with he never gave you one? And seriously? Your PMs don't work that you couldn't work this out between the two of you? Besides a lot of mocking, this thread is much more than a little scuffle between bros. How about reading what's going on, instead of deciding this is the moment you go for this problem?

I'm not saying you don't have problems with dc. I'm frustrated by your timing and where you decided to take this problem.

How many times have you forgotten to go back to some thread? Is it not possible that's all that happened? If it is, could it not be he's telling the truth instead of giving the infamous "false allegation?" In which case, do two wrongs make it suddenly right -- right here and right now, because this is all you can see right smack in the middle of this?

Honestly? Someone's signature says they don't go on post that take more than five pages. I see why now.
For a pious guy he sure gets butt hurt easily and then demands justice for himself. The height of the hypocrisy around here is sometimes comical.
 
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no worries - you keep on the right side like the Bereans trusting God and searching Scripture.

they don't care...... their lies have been exposed and they cry foul!..... and see how they pat each other on the back
as if they can save each other? .... .... .... God's Mercy is certainly big enough to save them, "if they will" ..... so for a while, there is hope for them....