Marijuana

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wwjd_kilden

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I agree with Persei on the alcohol/ marijuana thing, if marijuana is bad overall, so is alcohol, in any amount. (so those who say alcohol is OK can ahrdly go against marijuana if it is legal where they are. They are both equally dangerous anyway)


you have alcoholic wine at the Lords Supper?! (in my church we use grape juice, so that the ones that don't drink can have it, and to make it taste better for the younger ones :p ).
 
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I don't know...I have friends who smoke weed on daily basis recreational usage. I know lots of people that drink...I think that moderation is the key term here...as long as you are in control and you don't let it control you...you can do as you best see fit
 
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FearlessJesusGurl

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#23
I personally do not believe that smoking pot or drinking alcohol are evil or wrong...yes there are limits you should consider...stuff like that...but it is not wrong to do it...just when it gets out of hand...Idk...
my uncle is a pastor at a evangelistic church and hes an alcoholic...I dont think its wrong he drinks...I think its wrong hes an alcoholic...but its not evil...

anyway
u wanna talk...debate wutever im here...jus my opinion

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mrsa6

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#24
i was always taught that drugs and drinking were sins. but as you grow up, you start to question things. and then one day my pastor preached about drinking and basically what i got out of it is that it's okay to drink (in fact, Jesus drank wine in the Bible) but that it IS a sin to get drunk. “Therefore, do not continue in ignorance, but try to understand what is the will of the Lord. And do not get drunk on wine, in which lies debauchery, but be filled with the Spirit,” – Ephesians 5:17-18. and as for drugs, i don't believe the Bible says anything about drugs. however, God does specifically tell us to take care of our bodies.. doing drugs does harm to us, and therefore many people automatically say doing drugs is sinning. but at the same time, you're harming your body when you overeat, play dangerous sports, inhale pollution... so my interpretation is that in moderation, drugs are fine, but the minute you get addicted and start overusing it, it leads to trouble and sin.. does anybody know of any bible passages about this?
 
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Moll_y

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#25
Reading some of the comments I saw here, a song we sing quite often in my bible study group came to mind.

"Lord prepare me to be a sanctuary, pure and holy, tried and true. With thanksgiving, I'll be a living sanctuary for you."

I wouldn't smoke in God's sanctuary, whether it is my actual church, or His church within me. Regardless of legality.
 
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ohsoulwhisper

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#26
Listen, let's be real here.
If you know suffering, especially physical suffering, you know what it is to desperately want a solution.
As a lover of God, and a fellow suffer of IBD (inflammatory bowel disease), I know what it's like to struggle with the constant drug war.
The use of marijuana is child's play when you actually know the drugs people with IBD are ingesting long-term to try and "heal" their disease.
It blows my mind that it's perfectly acceptable, and perceived as biblical to use pharmaceuticals, but to smoke grass is "wrong"?
If you do your homework, there are actually legitimate medical studies that have proven the use of marijuana improves the state of IBD.
I know several people, including myself who smoke weed to deal with their disease. It helps deal with chronic bowel pain, relaxes tension in the abdomen, helps treat nausea, increases appetite, and when dealing with anxiety and depression as a side effect from drugs, weed is a sweet relief from the hell that state of mind does to a person.

Marijuana is not for everyone. Nothing is. However, the only reason most people, christian or not, come up against the usage of marijuana as a form of treatment, is because of the way it has been stigmatized by lawmakers, police and government. If you've smoked marijuana long-term, it's possible to develop a valid opinion regarding how it has affected your life, your health, etc. The time i've spent off drugs has been unbearable in many respects, and I can see in retrospect how much marijuana relieved my symptoms. If you have never smoked marijuana, let alone long-term, you don't understand it, nor the pros and cons it has for you as an individual.

As someone who loves the Holy Spirit and seeks direction, and cries out for peace and relief, it's not that the Lord does not satisfy my needs, I just believe there are things he provides us to do so. I have never not been able to sense the presence of God when I am high. He is with me, in all states of mind, at all times. He never leaves. If anything, marijuana slows down my rapid thoughts and enables me to spend amazing times with God, just basking in his presence. I think marijuana is a perfectly feasible option for the treatment of IBD. The long road of self-deprecation is not worth it, when the only source feeding it is naive, ignorant people impose their own uninformed opinions. The Lord is good, and personal life choices like smoking marijuana for medicinal purposes is between the user and God.
 
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AgeofKnowledge

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#27
Don't do it. You'll eventually regret it.
 
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follower_of_Yahushua

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#28
1Peter 1: 13 Wherefore gird up the loins of your mind, be sober,
and hope to the end for the grace that is to be brought unto you at the revelation of Jesus Christ;

1Peter 5:8 Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:

The word sober in these verses is translated from the greek word nepho, 3525 in the strongs concordance dictionary, which means... to be self-controlled, clear-headed. I guess these verses say we are only protecting ourselves by not smoking marijuana, among using other drugs or drinking alcohol, which alters our state of mind and causes addiction.
 
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Jak795

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#29
God wants us to live sober lives for a reason, when we get drunk or high voluntarily. We often dive into things we soon regret and can't take back. It leads to nothing but trouble. People get under the influence because they feel like it's a good way to cope with life when it isn't. There are far better ways out there, you just have to be willing to look.
 
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Ugly

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Zombie thread. 4 years old.
 
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Biblelogic01

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#31
I don't smoke marajuana, but to the people opposing it. Have you ever actually sat down studied what marajuana does? Or do you just listen to what the media says about it?

My brother came off his government made up ADD/ADHD medicine and he started smoking marajuana for what he said was "education" purposes, and he went from a 2.0 GPA to almost a 4.0 GPA.

So you have something that is illegal and "bad", and something made up by the government and the illegal/"bad" substance helps the mental process more than the government made up drug.

Btw marajuana is a plant, not a drug.
Drugs are different types of things mixed together.
Marajuana is like tobacco but actually has health benefits.
 
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butterfly712

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I don't smoke marajuana, but to the people opposing it. Have you ever actually sat down studied what marajuana does? Or do you just listen to what the media says about it?

My brother came off his government made up ADD/ADHD medicine and he started smoking marajuana for what he said was "education" purposes, and he went from a 2.0 GPA to almost a 4.0 GPA.

So you have something that is illegal and "bad", and something made up by the government and the illegal/"bad" substance helps the mental process more than the government made up drug.

Btw marajuana is a plant, not a drug.
Drugs are different types of things mixed together.
Marajuana is like tobacco but actually has health benefits.
yes it is good to use for heath benefits,and only heath benefits,and not to get high,my mom's boyfriend had cancer and the marajuana really helped him a lot.
 

Atwood

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Smoking MJ is not the same thing as using cannabis, which can be taken orally (pill form) or eaten. I don't know of any benefit of smoking anything -- bad for the health. And if one buys MJ on the street, one doesn't know what it is laced with -- could have some angel dust added.

So I don't believe there is any such thing as a medical need to smoke MJ. You might get a prescription for MARINOL® or some other cannabinoid, which you do not smoke.

Now spare me the anecdotes like some old woman, 110 years old:
Tell us granny, why did you live so long?
Answer: Well, every day I drank a quart of vodka, chewed tobacco, and smokef 2 packs of Camels.
 
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Daniel411

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Coming from someone who has had extensive experience with marijuana in their life, I feel it's only necessary I put in my two cents. I'm currently working for Mental Health and Substance Abuse programs, also my background revolved heavily around the use of marijuana from childhood well into adulthood. From a family that grew up with marijuana as part of an everyday recreational use, I can attest to the pros and cons.

Marijuana like anything else, depends solely upon the user. That being said, the New England Journal of Medicine has done a study on the affects of marijuana and it's influence on minors, and young adults (adolescence). From personal experience again, I back the claims made. Marijuana in itself isn't a self-defeating evil that makes you do anything, God gave us that thing called "free will" and as humans we can be easily swayed by our environments and what we are exposed to, especially and at a young and impressionable age. It's been said, and I have witnessed that adolescent children who begin smoking this plant regularly from age 11 into early adulthood indeed do more harm than good to their frontal cortex, or the part of the brain responsible for judgement and reasoning, and with like anything it becomes addicting when used often for that long of a period of time. Witnessing my younger brother do just this, I watched as a young brilliant and creative mind (he still is by the way), has become obsessed with this plant and lacks the motivation to want to do much more than smoke. Now this won't be the same for all people, but out of my family of smokers from a young age into adulthood one out of 6 of us graduated high school, take a guess?

I love my family very much, and when I was 21 decided that it would be a good idea for me to see what was so great about this plant that my family smoked it as often as people would smoke a cigarette or even more. So I delved against my better judgement into this world and for the next two years, became heavily into the whole pot smoking stoner phase, and don't get me wrong, it seemed like it was fun for a while, but the real problem here, is that I did not know my limits.

Instead of being level headed and keeping my focus on God's plan for me, I drifted effortlessly into the environment around me, and why wouldn't I? It was family after all... However, it wasn't until a very restless night that God had made it known to me about my new found addiction to what my relationship would continue to be if I didn't stop this lifestyle. I day dreamed, or had a vision (whatever you want to call it). That evening as my brother and I were driving home we came to a stop at a stop sign and I jumped out of the car, wracked with pain in my head like a violent vibration, and that's when mentally I wasn't there... I looked around and saw only darkness, but could feel an illuminating presence behind me. Immediately I knew what that was, I turned to see a man in white flowing robes, bronze like complexion and lighting eyes with long brown hair standing with his back to me. I prostrated myself before Jesus and cried out "I'm sorry, I know what I have done, please forgive me Lord..." His answer was a swift sting and reminder to if I continued to live this life what would become of me; His reply was "I don't know you."

The message was quite clear, I had given into my sin and become that which I opposed. Now listening to God for the first time in nearly 2 years, not more than 4 months later without anything planned, I grabbed my things, left my current job and moved 500 miles away with no family in sight. I do not blame my family for what happened, I only blame myself for not listening while God was continually telling me "My glory cannot be shown through you like this." So, marijuana? I'm not opposed to the idea that it has it's benefits and can be a nice quick release from every day stress, but if you want a real cure turn to God, don't let His glory be replaced with anything else. It's not the plant, it's the individual. Some people can drink, others cannot, some people may be able to smoke, others may not. Know yourself, and know what God requires of you. As for me and my house we will serve the Lord. God bless you all, and never give up, the world has already been defeated, and our Savior is alive and well.
 
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josedoe

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#35
I know we have been heavy conditioned this past decade to the unharmful effects of marijuana...
well in the physical that may be true in the spiritual sense that is far from it.... You unwittingly are conjuring up spirits so as Christians the ball is in our court. Eventually this does very evident if we truly are the LORDS