Is Santa and anagram for satan?

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skylove7

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Why surely sister! The day you spread love besides ISIT and your own for yourself...in words. We shall have tea time. :)
 
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skylove7

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Im gone sister...pardon my intrusion :)
 
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DesiredHaven

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Now that might scare some children who believe huh..."Mommy his head is on the fence!" LOL!

ROFL!!! Can you imagine!??



MOMMY!!!

ROFL!!!

You recall the story bout my grandpop right? The one where he told me and my sister (when we were eating easter dinner) that he killed the easter bunny?

He said he thought the easter bunny was a burglar sneaking in the house and shot in the back yard and I was exactly like that child in the picture LOL!! My sister too

I was never fond of my granfathers dry sense of humor at 4 years old because I didnt get it

Although today I think he would have had me in stitches LOL!

I definately wouldnt have approved of telling me thats who we were eating for dinner, THAT part was not funny at all

Although I sorta snicker at that too LOL!
 

valiant

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Saint Nicolas was a godly bishop (there were some) who took purses of coins and left them anonymously at the houses of the very poor around Christmas time. I think that is a good principle to instil in children. And if we make him fat and jolly there is no harm in that.

Santa is Scandanavian for 'saint'. Are all God's saints all Satanic?

I have never yet met a child who mixed up Santa Claus with God, but he teaches a good lesson in that the good are rewarded. The thought that Christmas time makes people generous and concerned for good goes well with the thought that it is Jesus' official birthday.

It is how we teach it that makes all the difference.
 
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DesiredHaven

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Saint Nicolas was a godly bishop (there were some) who took purses of coins and left them anonymously at the houses of the very poor around Christmas time. I think that is a good principle to instil in children. And if we make him fat and jolly there is no harm in that.

Santa is Scandanavian for 'saint'. Are all God's saints all Satanic?

I have never yet met a child who mixed up Santa Claus with God, but he teaches a good lesson in that the good are rewarded. The thought that Christmas time makes people generous and concerned for good goes well with the thought that it is Jesus' official birthday.

It is how we teach it that makes all the difference.

I would only think if the coins were for the coffer as it relates to purgatory and coin enough to buy the souls from the same.

Its a good thing to help others in need
 
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The original St. Nicholas lived in southwestern Turkey in the 4th century. As the bishop of Myra he was credited with doing a number of miracles involving sailors and children. After his death this led him to become the patron saint of both groups as well as for unmarried girls. As a saint he was given his own "feast day" that was celebrated on December 6th.

And from this we get the Santa of today?
 
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ROFL!!! Can you imagine!??



MOMMY!!!

ROFL!!!

You recall the story bout my grandpop right? The one where he told me and my sister (when we were eating easter dinner) that he killed the easter bunny?

He said he thought the easter bunny was a burglar sneaking in the house and shot in the back yard and I was exactly like that child in the picture LOL!! My sister too

I was never fond of my granfathers dry sense of humor at 4 years old because I didnt get it

Although today I think he would have had me in stitches LOL!

I definately wouldnt have approved of telling me thats who we were eating for dinner, THAT part was not funny at all

Although I sorta snicker at that too LOL!
Grand dads can be so harsh sometimes can't they? LOL First time I ate venison as a kid it was at my grand dads house, and we didn't even know what it was we were eating. And in the middle of eating it he asked us, how do you like Bambi? And me and my sister were like huh!? LOL My sister had a fit because she loved that movie. Mean ole Pawpa! LOL
 
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DesiredHaven

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Grand dads can be so harsh sometimes can't they? LOL First time I ate venison as a kid it was at my grand dads house, and we didn't even know what it was we were eating. And in the middle of eating it he asked us, how do you like Bambi? And me and my sister were like huh!? LOL My sister had a fit because she loved that movie. Mean ole Pawpa! LOL
ROFL!!! They ARE!! Grandma's standing behind grampa smacking him on the head for torturing us LOL

My husband is damaged for life,
the man wont ever hunt cause of that movie and we will likely starve or eat grubs if it ever comes down to it
Or just hang out at your house ;):p
 

JGIG

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The prospect of redeeming a lie into what is actually true is a good thing

Get thee hence Santa




I would have rathered a sword
What do your hateful words have to do with the topic?

Let us continue in kindness and love shall we?

Uh, okay, ye who would have "rathered a sword".

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . :rolleyes:
 

JGIG

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God is an anagram for dog . . . just waiting for you YHWHists to take that ball and run with it, ha!
 
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Ugly

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This crap again? And it's not even winter.
Problem with these nut job theories is they only work in one language. If they lived in China would this still work? Nope.
Santa means saint. Yet another nail in the coffin. And it's not an English word. So much wrong with these absurd theories. People should spend more time in their bibles and less time making up stories and twisting the language.
 

JGIG

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Regarding St. Nicholas (excerpted from Persecuted, Jailed, Passionate
That's my kind of Santa Claus
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The story goes that Nicholas was born in A.D. 280 of pious and wealthy parents who raised him in the fear and admonition of the Lord and taught him "sacred books" from the age of 5. He was forced to grow up quickly upon the sudden death of his parents.

Inheriting his family's wealth, he was left rich and lonely, but he had the desire to use his wealth for good. The first opportunity to do this happened when he heard about a father who, through an unfortunate turn of fortune, was left destitute with three daughters. Without marriage dowry money, the daughters would be condemned to a life of singleness and prostitution, so Nicholas threw some small bags of gold coins into the window of the home (some traditions say down the chimney), thereby saving the children from a life of misery.

Later as a teenager, Nicholas made a pilgrimage to Egypt and Palestine. Upon returning home he felt called to ministry and was subsequently ordained. He spent time at the Monastery of Holy Zion near Myra until an old priest had a vision that he was to be the new bishop.

The congregation overwhelmingly elected him bishop, and he became known for his holiness, passion for the gospel and zeal. He challenged the old gods and paganism at the principal temple in his district (to the god Artemis), and it was said that the evil spirits "fled howling before him."

But the old deities did not go easily. In A.D. 303, Emperor Diocletian directed the persecution of Christians, and "as he [Nicholas] was the chief priest of the Christians of this town and preached the truths of faith with a holy liberty, Nicholas was seized by the magistrates, tortured, then chained and thrown into prison with many other Christians."
With the Edict of Milan, Emperor Constantine ordered the cessation of all persecution of the church, and the Christians were released from prisons. Those who survived Diocletian's purges were called "confessors" because they wouldn't renege on their confession of Jesus as Lord.

When Bishop Nicholas walked out of the prison, the crowds called to him: "Nicholas! Confessor!" He had been repeatedly beaten until he was raw, and his body was the color of vermilion. Bishop Nicholas was also said to have intervened on behalf of unjustly charged prisoners and actively sought to help his people survive when they had experienced two successive bad harvests.

One of the most interesting stories connected with him was his role during the Arian controversy. St. Methodius asserted that "thanks to the teaching of St. Nicholas the metropolis of Myra alone was untouched by the filth of the Arian heresy, which it firmly rejected as death-dealing poison."

Arianism was declared heresy at the Council of Nicaea. Arius, of course, asserted, contra John 1:1, that the Word [Jesus] was a created being and had not existed from all eternity [this was an issue of the full Deity of Christ].

One weak tradition has him actually attending the Council of Nicea in A.D. 325, when Arian doctrine was rejected. The story goes that he got into a heated debate with Arius himself about whether there was a time when the Word did not exist. Nicholas strongly disagreed.

The debate ended suddenly when Nicholas punched out Arius then and there on the floor of the council! This gives new meaning to the ditty: "He's making a list and checking it twice, he's going to find out who's naughty or nice!"

The mental image of Santa Claus punching out Arius on the floor of the Council of Nicea with Emperor Constantine looking on has to fundamentally change the way one would ever see Santa Claus again. While I might not agree with his methods, I certainly admire his passion for Christological orthodoxy and doctrinal purity!

So when you think of Santa Claus, here's something to think about:Think of a godly Christian bishop who was persecuted and imprisoned for faithfully proclaiming the faith under the most dangerous of circumstances. Think of someone who had a sensitive caring pastoral heart and took care of the flock of which God had made him shepherd. Think of someone who provided support and defense for children, the weak and poor, the helpless and victims of injustice. Think of someone with an unparalleled passion for doctrinal purity. And to top it off, think of someone whose whole purpose in life was to point people to Jesus.


A man rather passionate for and willing to defend the Gospel, not to mention his service to others at great personal cost.

Far from the 'satanic' image some would like to portray . . .

-JGIG
 
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okay..in the book of ACTS..we have mention of the church in Pergia...that Paul helped form. Although Paul was beheaded..the mission churches he founded thrived. THe church in Pergia eventually elected deacons and such...and in the 300's AD...a certain deacon named Nicholas, who was extremely benevolent, giving and caring for others, was also known for sneaking money or tossing it into windows or houses in a leather bag, to help people out..or if they needed a dowry..etc. He gave and never took from others and GOD blessed him. OF course, as history went on...catholics 'canonized" those they thought were worthy of it..and guess what...St. Nicolas, in his usual attire and non shaven face...became a legend.
 
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Hah! why, even the Easter bunny had to take a smoke break! Reminds me of the nun who's car broke down. All she could find to hold gas in was a plastic potty, so she walked to a nearby gas station and filled the potty with gas, came back and was pouring it into her tank when a car came by, slowed down and the window rolled down. The driver said "WOW, SISTER..you sure have FAITH!"
 
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DesiredHaven

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Uh, okay, ye who would have "rathered a sword".

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . :rolleyes:
Sword of the Spirit which is truth against a lie (Santa)

Its a visual to that effect (as there is neither flying reindeer)

Im sure you have heard of the Sword of the Spirit and the ((( casting down ))) OF IMAGINATIONS (Santa and his flying reindeer)

Because you REALLY cannot kill Santa (as a person) with a shotgun,
which is why I said I would have rathered a SWORD (to depict that visually better)

Its a visual of the LIE that is the non existant Santa, he is a fable, speaks of turning your ears from truth unto fables they work for some people (for others not)
Lots of really good children are broken hearted they receive nothing for christmas and not because they were bad children (on the naughty list) but rather their parents are wrapped into the lie and their own poverty (or inability to give gifts) is a crushing blow in that lie to their own children

THAT is not loving but cruel

The sword of the Spirit is not a carnal weapon, but neither is Santa a real carnal person, he is a lie

Killing off Santa (the lie) with the Sword of the Spirit is not hatred against person but demolishing THE IDEA

The fable works for the rich though, depends whose side your on

Its a commercial thing, I would ditch Santa and keep Jesus Christ
 
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p_rehbein

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No ...........................
 
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Tintin

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There is a theory that Santa Claus is actually an alias for Satan. The theory is based primarily on the fact that "Santa" could be an anagram for "Satan."

This theory is a popular belief among many Christian communities.
Other evidence is the fact that Saint Nicholas, the origin of Santa, could have never existed. Ole Nick was a fallen Angel. Nick is a common nickname for Santa. (e.g. Old Saint Nicholaus) Old Nick is a British term for "the devil". Nicholas is one of the most common names for the devil, for Germans.

Many Christians are infuriated with the fact that Santa shares, or in some cases takes the spotlight from Jesus at Christmas time.

Santa can be rearranged to spell Satan. Claus is old English for "Hoof-Claws." Claus can be rearranged to spell "Lucas" which resembles Lucifer
Oh boy.
Don't say 'many Christian communities'. 'Some' may be true, but it's more likely a few little sects than anything far-reaching. Also, Saint Nicholas has nothing to do with Satan and that leap of logic is worthy of a fall from a great height (ala the attempted leap of faith scene from The Matrix movie). More ridiculousness, although I can believe George Lucas is the... no. I'm not going there. :p The only thing you've said that is worthy of any merit is that many Christians are peeved Father Christmas takes the limelight from Christ. But in reality, he's a type of Christ. And the devil smells.
 

posthuman

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[h=2]Is Santa and anagram for satan?[/h]
just being a wise guy here --
any word or phrase that exactly reproduces the letters of another by re-arranging them is an anagram.
no question, santa is a anagram for satan.

whether or not santa is an "alias" is a different question entirely ;)
 
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wwjd_kilden

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I grew up without believing in santa, without my parents ever bringing up satan

just teach them what is true and don't feed them with fairly tales (or, let them know that fairy tales are fairy tales from the start)
I grew up with HC Andersen, Asbjørnsen og Moe and later on Grimm , that doesn't mean I believed in trolls and fairies