Any Masons or Mason's wives on here?

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ServantStrike

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So you can't actually tell me what Master I am serving without Googling a skewed search that points you to misinformation. To put in into the context of writing a research paper, none of these are scholarly sources.
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And you can't tell us what master you serve either - because you're sworn to secrecy and because you don't get to find out until later degrees.

For me personally, any organization that claims to have any kind of theological stance at all but refuses to give me a complete theological stance up front is not one that I'm interested in joining.
 
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Funny thing...I can tell you exactly what Master I serve. The Master I serve is our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ...the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost. Oh get this...there isn't one thing in freemasonry that has told me to do otherwise. #truestory

Ill say it once more, you can read all you want to online. But, until you step foot into a lodge and are part of it, you don't actually know what goes on. Why yes, there is a worshipful master...we don't worship or serve him. I can promise you that. My brother will be worshipful in a few years and I can guarantee wont worship him!
 
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GodIsSalvation

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Funny thing...I can tell you exactly what Master I serve. The Master I serve is our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ...the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost. Oh get this...there isn't one thing in freemasonry that has told me to do otherwise. #truestory

Ill say it once more, you can read all you want to online. But, until you step foot into a lodge and are part of it, you don't actually know what goes on. Why yes, there is a worshipful master...we don't worship or serve him. I can promise you that. My brother will be worshipful in a few years and I can guarantee wont worship him!
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If Jesus is the master you love and the one in charge of your lodge is the master which you hate and mock, then you should consider all the more leaving masonry behind.
 
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CeileDe

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I have not considered leaving Masonry. I know what it is about. I will be happy to share the initiation with anyone who wishes to join and goes through the process. That's the beauty of it..anyone can join (that is in good standing in their community). You can join and go through and never walk back through the doors if you want. It's funny that I know a ton of fine upstanding Christian men who are members. Are there going to be bad apples? Of course. That happens everywhere.
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You won't share now because it is a secret oath you say when you are initiated and you can't tell us, is that correct?
 
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You won't share now because it is a secret oath you say when you are initiated and you can't tell us, is that correct?
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I am not sharing the initiation on here. That has nothing to do with the original intent of the post.
 
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If Jesus is the master you love and the one in charge of your lodge is the master which you hate and mock, then you should consider all the more leaving masonry behind.
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You are slowly losing what little credibility if any you may have had. At which point did say anything about mocking or hating anyone? Just goes to prove how you'll come up with anything to try to prove your point. Please note I'm not attempting to make anyone a Mason on here. This conversation has gotten so off topic from what I intended it's not even funny. But, it has shown how many on here are very quick to judge and have said some pretty hateful things without even knowing what they are talking about.
 
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You are slowly losing what little credibility if any you may have had. At which point did say anything about mocking or hating anyone? Just goes to prove how you'll come up with anything to try to prove your point. Please note I'm not attempting to make anyone a Mason on here. This conversation has gotten so off topic from what I intended it's not even funny. But, it has shown how many on here are very quick to judge and have said some pretty hateful things without even knowing what they are talking about.
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Why would you call the man a "worshipful master" if you neither worship him for being worshipful or serve him for being your master? Either you mock him by calling him worshipful master when he is not, or elsewise it is understood within masonry that the man is neither worshipful nor a master in which case masonry makes you a liar.

As for the rest of the comments, I have not read all of them yet. I have not judged you, but I have asked and ask again you consider leaving masonry and join Christianity. I do not perceive this topic to be about you recruiting people to the occult. It is more akin to as if a muslim made a topic asking if there were any muslims and muslim wives on a Christian website. So I feel compelled to ask you to consider leaving the occult. You don't have to make a choice anytime soon, all I ask is to merely consider it. If I hated you I would not even bother asking you to consider leaving that cabal.

Let us just leave this at this for now, we will resume our conversation again, but take some time to consider it.
 
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Why would you call the man a "worshipful master" if you neither worship him for being worshipful or serve him for being your master? Either you mock him by calling him worshipful master when he is not, or elsewise it is understood within masonry that the man is neither worshipful nor a master in which case masonry makes you a liar.

As for the rest of the comments, I have not read all of them yet. I have not judged you, but I have asked and ask again you consider leaving masonry and join Christianity. I do not perceive this topic to be about you recruiting people to the occult. It is more akin to as if a muslim made a topic asking if there were any muslims and muslim wives on a Christian website. So I feel compelled to ask you to consider leaving the occult. You don't have to make a choice anytime soon, all I ask is to merely consider it. If I hated you I would not even bother asking you to consider leaving that cabal.

Let us just leave this at this for now, we will resume our conversation again, but take some time to consider it.
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Dude....you say you aren't judging me but say I am not a Christian. Sounds pretty judgmental to me.

Worshipful Master is a title. Kinda like the President of the United States. You call the president "Mr. President" as that is his title. Speaking of presidents, I assume the 14 U.S. Presidents who were Masons were not Christian either. There are millions of Masons and have been many millions over the years. I think it's rather narrowminded of you to lump everyone of us into not being Christian when you don't know us. Again, I'm pretty sure it tells you to judge like that in the Bible. I have read it cover to cover, but I may have actually missed that somewhere. I also pray to God daily, attend church every Sunday as long as I don't have to work, serve on committees, sing in the choir, have helped teach Sunday School, am part of our Men's group at the church and an officer for the conference Men's group, help with Bible school, volunteer my time to work in the yard at the church, give offering, commune regularly, BUT...I am also a Mason and since you have never stepped in a lodge and can only make assumptions (at best) about it...I surely can't be a Christian. Wow.
 
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the lodge is 1000% less like "Christian" than jehovah witnesses , and they aren't Christian(though some have become Christian).

so while you at or serving lodge, you not Christian. the 2 are incompatible, same as buddhist and communists and rcc catholicism -- the "SYSTEMS" are "instead of" Christ Jesus.

IF you do get saved from the deception, you will be saved out from them, not 'with' them because, again, those systems are "instead of" truth; not for truth.
 
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Jeff, I've been nice. I was about to say something rude with my heathen ways, but decided not to. I'm done conversing with you though. You are so off topic from the post it isn't even funny anymore. It was funny, but it's gotten old. You know nothing of which you speak. You are assuming tons without actual knowledge to back it up. Your comparisons are absurd. Oh, and you are incredibly judgmental. So, I'll leave it with a "God bless."
 
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[h=2]Any Masons or Mason's wives on here? Of course there are, but not me. :p[/h]
 
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I reject the so-called and fake blessing of "your god" (an anti-christ).

"The official corruption of Masonry is well-documented, but often covered up."

the message from Scripture to you , and to all masons, jws, buddhists, rcc catholics, etc

is REPENT, turn to Yahweh to receive His Help through Yahshua(who is very anti-mason),

for the Kingdom of Heaven is very close, even at hand. It is time to turn to Yahweh. TODAY.
 
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Dude....you say you aren't judging me but say I am not a Christian. Sounds pretty judgmental to me.

Worshipful Master is a title. Kinda like the President of the United States. You call the president "Mr. President" as that is his title. Speaking of presidents, I assume the 14 U.S. Presidents who were Masons were not Christian either. There are millions of Masons and have been many millions over the years. I think it's rather narrowminded of you to lump everyone of us into not being Christian when you don't know us. Again, I'm pretty sure it tells you to judge like that in the Bible. I have read it cover to cover, but I may have actually missed that somewhere. I also pray to God daily, attend church every Sunday as long as I don't have to work, serve on committees, sing in the choir, have helped teach Sunday School, am part of our Men's group at the church and an officer for the conference Men's group, help with Bible school, volunteer my time to work in the yard at the church, give offering, commune regularly, BUT...I am also a Mason and since you have never stepped in a lodge and can only make assumptions (at best) about it...I surely can't be a Christian. Wow.
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dude it sounds like they are putting themselves above us we are all siners or where and we are trying to follow God by calling themselves worshipful is blasphemy for it is says in Luke 4:8


Jesus answered, "It is written: 'Worship the Lord your God and serve him only.'"


if he called himself that in the old testament he would be stoned right there and then. And I guaranty you this there are those that do worship him/ her in the masons.
 
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I don't think you'll find a Mason who doesn't think he is a sinner. If he does, it's a warped mindset of his, nothing that being a Mason has taught him. Again, no one worships the worshipful master. It is a title and position in the lodge. Also, women are not actually in the lodge. Yes I have seen them on the history channel. They are not legit.
 
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WolfGaming

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its still blasphemy to call a man worshipful master.
 
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Dude....you say you aren't judging me but say I am not a Christian. Sounds pretty judgmental to me.

Worshipful Master is a title. Kinda like the President of the United States. You call the president "Mr. President" as that is his title. Speaking of presidents, I assume the 14 U.S. Presidents who were Masons were not Christian either. There are millions of Masons and have been many millions over the years. I think it's rather narrowminded of you to lump everyone of us into not being Christian when you don't know us. Again, I'm pretty sure it tells you to judge like that in the Bible. I have read it cover to cover, but I may have actually missed that somewhere. I also pray to God daily, attend church every Sunday as long as I don't have to work, serve on committees, sing in the choir, have helped teach Sunday School, am part of our Men's group at the church and an officer for the conference Men's group, help with Bible school, volunteer my time to work in the yard at the church, give offering, commune regularly, BUT...I am also a Mason and since you have never stepped in a lodge and can only make assumptions (at best) about it...I surely can't be a Christian. Wow.
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Nay, I judge you not, but you have said yourself that you are a mason. Christianity and masonry do not mix, just as the light does not mix with the darkness. Therefore says I to you to take time to consider leaving masonry and joining Christianity.
 
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CeileDe

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The fact that he can't tell us what the ceremony was about tells us it is in secret and he knows it isn't how he is claiming it to be.

NFD33 you can't serve two masters. You aren't going to convince anyone here of anything unless you are honest on what goes on inside that building. What was your ceremony about? What did you have to say and do to become a Mason? How many levels have you completed? What did you have to say and do to get each level? Did they swear you to secrecy?

All of these questions are valid, mostly if you are claiming the Masons don't teach anything that goes against the Word of God.
 
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NFD33

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Y'all know that I'm not gonna actually talk about it on here so why even continue trying? I can simply say that I am not serving two masters. I serve our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. I've just professed my faith in Jesus Christ (which last time I checked made me a Christian) and yet y'all will continue to say that I am not a Christian due to being a part of a well respected organization. And Mr. "Nay I judge you not"...if you are judging me not, if I say I am a Christian, if you accuse me of anything else you are judging me. That's a fact, jack.

Were any of you involved in a fraternity in college? I'm gonna go out on a limb and say probably not.... I wasn't either. But, I do work at a college. I have plenty of friends that were in sororities or fraternities. I do know them all to have secret initiations. I don't know what they are and they aren't going to tell. If any of you happened to be in one, please share your initiation. Or, if there is anything that you have sworn you wouldn't tell anyone...please share it now. I'll wait on the crickets.
 
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CeileDe

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NFD33 said:
Y'all know that I'm not gonna actually talk about it on here so why even continue trying? I can simply say that I am not serving two masters. I serve our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. I've just professed my faith in Jesus Christ (which last time I checked made me a Christian) and yet y'all will continue to say that I am not a Christian due to being a part of a well respected organization. And Mr. "Nay I judge you not"...if you are judging me not, if I say I am a Christian, if you accuse me of anything else you are judging me. That's a fact, jack.

Were any of you involved in a fraternity in college? I'm gonna go out on a limb and say probably not.... I wasn't either. But, I do work at a college. I have plenty of friends that were in sororities or fraternities. I do know them all to have secret initiations. I don't know what they are and they aren't going to tell. If any of you happened to be in one, please share your initiation. Or, if there is anything that you have sworn you wouldn't tell anyone...please share it now. I'll wait on the crickets.
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So you compare the Mason's to a drunken fraternity? Well at least you are being honest there. And you should read the word of God a bit more. Christians can judge other Christians. If you want scripture I can provide it for you.
 
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ServantStrike

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NFD33 said:
Y'all know that I'm not gonna actually talk about it on here so why even continue trying? I can simply say that I am not serving two masters. I serve our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. I've just professed my faith in Jesus Christ (which last time I checked made me a Christian) and yet y'all will continue to say that I am not a Christian due to being a part of a well respected organization. And Mr. "Nay I judge you not"...if you are judging me not, if I say I am a Christian, if you accuse me of anything else you are judging me. That's a fact, jack.

Were any of you involved in a fraternity in college? I'm gonna go out on a limb and say probably not.... I wasn't either. But, I do work at a college. I have plenty of friends that were in sororities or fraternities. I do know them all to have secret initiations. I don't know what they are and they aren't going to tell. If any of you happened to be in one, please share your initiation. Or, if there is anything that you have sworn you wouldn't tell anyone...please share it now. I'll wait on the crickets.
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For the record I have set foot inside a lodge before. I have friends who are masons - I'm not joining though. Do you see me calling you a Satanist? No, I didn't think so.

It is a spiritually dangerous organization though. You're required to believe in a supreme being but without a profession of faith in Christ. All religions are not created equal in the eyes of God Almighty.

Furthermore, the whole sworn to secrecy thing is a problem.

James 5
12But above all things, my brethren, swear not, neither by heaven, neither by the earth, neither by any other oath: but let your yea be yea; and your nay, nay; lest ye fall into condemnation.

Or in Christ's words In Matthew 5
37But let your communication be, Yea, yea; Nay, nay: for whatsoever is more than these cometh of evil.


One of my main objections to masonry is that you are forced to swear an oath before you know completely what you swear to. It's a rash vow and it's spiritually dangerous.
 
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