Any Masons or Mason's wives on here?

[GodIsSalvation]

Y'all know that I'm not gonna actually talk about it on here so why even continue trying? I can simply say that I am not serving two masters. I serve our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. I've just professed my faith in Jesus Christ (which last time I checked made me a Christian) and yet y'all will continue to say that I am not a Christian due to being a part of a well respected organization. And Mr. "Nay I judge you not"...if you are judging me not, if I say I am a Christian, if you accuse me of anything else you are judging me. That's a fact, jack.

Were any of you involved in a fraternity in college? I'm gonna go out on a limb and say probably not.... I wasn't either. But, I do work at a college. I have plenty of friends that were in sororities or fraternities. I do know them all to have secret initiations. I don't know what they are and they aren't going to tell. If any of you happened to be in one, please share your initiation. Or, if there is anything that you have sworn you wouldn't tell anyone...please share it now. I'll wait on the crickets.

Nay for I judge you not, but you say of yourself you are part of the masons, which is an anti-Christian organization of evil reputation. I accuse you not either, for you have all ready said that you are part of masonry. So I say to you again to consider leaving that cabal behind.

Aye, I am no frat boy, for such fraternities are evil since they are based on pagan greek tradition. It is a good analogy though, for one cannot be a Christian and in the mystery pagan organizations. If anyone is a frat boy, I say the same thing to them; consider leaving those cabals and instead join Christianity. There is no condemnation if you are a frat boy and you choose to leave because Jesus will be glad to take you back.

 

[CeileDe]

@NRD33

Can you answer yes or no to these questions.

Does an Apprentice Mason swear to this?
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Entered Apprentice Mason SWEARS BY GOD to: "...always hail, ever conceal, and never reveal, any of the arts, parts, or points of the hidden mysteries of Ancient Free masonry...binding myself under no less penalty than that of having my throat cut across, my tongue torn out by its roots, and my body buried in the rough sands of the sea..."

Are you sworn to secrecy?

Is this true?
[/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]In Grolier's Encyclopedia, a Masonic member states: "If a person lives what the lodge teaches he won't have any trouble getting into Heaven." (Grolier, Vol. 5, "Freemasonry," pg. 68)[/FONT]

Is this true?
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]"He who approaches our alter in good faith and by the light which we bring him receives our teachings into a heart already prepared and lives a life in conformity with the principles which he here imbues, has come into an invaluable possession and need have no fear when the word shall come calling him into the hereafter but that he will be received as a living stone fit for a temple not made with hands." (See I Peter 2:4-8) [/FONT]

 

[Elysian]

That Wikipedia article you googled proves nothing and like all secular historical sources I have never trusted Wikipedia.The fact is you cannot refute this matter as false.

''and may Allah the god of the Arab,Muslim and Mohammedan,the god of our fathers support me to the entire fulfillment of the same.Amen Amen Amen'',This is just one of the oaths a Shriner undertakes.I ask you why any self respecting,intelligent and mentally balanced man would turn their back on God and their christian culture and partake in this heathen garbage.No wonder this sick crap was secret years ago,they would have ended up at the gallows for treason and God only knows what other charges brought against them by a then society that respected and feared God and knew right from wrong.

 

[NFD33]

Well, I had decided to leave this thread alone because it got really off topic. And after this post I probably won't post anything else under it...just because the intent of this post was to see how couples handled the man being in the lodge or wanting to join the lodge. This was never intended to make anyone a Mason or talk bad about anyone. I am ashamed of some of the things a few have said on this thread "in the name of Christianity."

But, as requested, I will now share the secret of Freemasonry. This afternoon, I went to a memorial service. This service was for the wife of 49 years of a gentleman at my lodge. I have never met his wife. She has been sick and in a hospital it of town the entire time I have known him. There was a rather large crowd at this church for the service. Many in attendance were brothers from our lodge and many others that were from lodges around the area. Many of these men had not known his wife either (though many did). We all came to support our grieving brother. There have been other tokens of brotherly love an affection shown toward this grieving brother as there will continue to be. It hit me as I was standing at the service...standing room only for some of us...that's the point of freemasonry. Yes, we have initiations and such. I've yet to have to swear to anything against Christianity. But, it's about being there for one another. While you clearly do not have to be a Mason to do this, it's encouraging to go to an event like this and to see so many brothers in attendance to support a grieving brother and his family. If you can consider that a bad thing...I'm not sure what what way your moral compass in leading you.

 

[CeileDe]

Well, I had decided to leave this thread alone because it got really off topic. And after this post I probably won't post anything else under it...just because the intent of this post was to see how couples handled the man being in the lodge or wanting to join the lodge. This was never intended to make anyone a Mason or talk bad about anyone. I am ashamed of some of the things a few have said on this thread "in the name of Christianity."

But, as requested, I will now share the secret of Freemasonry. This afternoon, I went to a memorial service. This service was for the wife of 49 years of a gentleman at my lodge. I have never met his wife. She has been sick and in a hospital it of town the entire time I have known him. There was a rather large crowd at this church for the service. Many in attendance were brothers from our lodge and many others that were from lodges around the area. Many of these men had not known his wife either (though many did). We all came to support our grieving brother. There have been other tokens of brotherly love an affection shown toward this grieving brother as there will continue to be. It hit me as I was standing at the service...standing room only for some of us...that's the point of freemasonry. Yes, we have initiations and such. I've yet to have to swear to anything against Christianity. But, it's about being there for one another. While you clearly do not have to be a Mason to do this, it's encouraging to go to an event like this and to see so many brothers in attendance to support a grieving brother and his family. If you can consider that a bad thing...I'm not sure what what way your moral compass in leading you.

Well you refuse to answer any questions about it. Enjoy trying to serve two masters.

 

[FancyNancy]

Well, I had decided to leave this thread alone because it got really off topic. And after this post I probably won't post anything else under it...just because the intent of this post was to see how couples handled the man being in the lodge or wanting to join the lodge. This was never intended to make anyone a Mason or talk bad about anyone. I am ashamed of some of the things a few have said on this thread "in the name of Christianity."

But, as requested, I will now share the secret of Freemasonry. This afternoon, I went to a memorial service. This service was for the wife of 49 years of a gentleman at my lodge. I have never met his wife. She has been sick and in a hospital it of town the entire time I have known him. There was a rather large crowd at this church for the service. Many in attendance were brothers from our lodge and many others that were from lodges around the area. Many of these men had not known his wife either (though many did). We all came to support our grieving brother. There have been other tokens of brotherly love an affection shown toward this grieving brother as there will continue to be. It hit me as I was standing at the service...standing room only for some of us...that's the point of freemasonry. Yes, we have initiations and such. I've yet to have to swear to anything against Christianity. But, it's about being there for one another. While you clearly do not have to be a Mason to do this, it's encouraging to go to an event like this and to see so many brothers in attendance to support a grieving brother and his family. If you can consider that a bad thing...I'm not sure what what way your moral compass in leading you.

It is the brotherly aspect of the cult of Freemasonry that turns the heads and hearts of those that are deceived by it.

 

[Nautilus]

That Wikipedia article you googled proves nothing and like all secular historical sources I have never trusted Wikipedia.The fact is you cannot refute this matter as false.

''and may Allah the god of the Arab,Muslim and Mohammedan,the god of our fathers support me to the entire fulfillment of the same.Amen Amen Amen'',This is just one of the oaths a Shriner undertakes.I ask you why any self respecting,intelligent and mentally balanced man would turn their back on God and their christian culture and partake in this heathen garbage.No wonder this sick crap was secret years ago,they would have ended up at the gallows for treason and God only knows what other charges brought against them by a then society that respected and feared God and knew right from wrong.

Well you're just insane. Shriners do not say that as part of their path. Im now writing you off as yet another uneducated nut from the conspiracy forum.

 

[Stephen63]

So you can't actually tell me what Master I am serving without Googling a skewed search that points you to misinformation. To put in into the context of writing a research paper, none of these are scholarly sources.

How about Freemasonry books authored by Manley P. Hall & Albert Pike? Two very famous masons, both 33rd degree & both were Luciferians.

 

[Stephen63]

Not true. I come from a family of masons and never once have any of them lost faith in Jesus or whatever bull over people hear try to come up with.

What do you think of this?

With many Shriner temples, this is even more apparent.
“The building, in the heart of the Bible Belt, is the Shriners mosque, built in 1922. The Shriners are a high level of Freemasonry. We asked a Shriner there what the Arabic writing meant, and he said it was just decoration; it doesn’t mean anything. We emailed a picture of it to friends in Israel and had it translated by

Arab Christians there. It actually says: “No god but Allah.” (Quelle: THE FREE PRESS):

I found this just for you, since you're all for it.

 

[Stephen63]

Not true. I come from a family of masons and never once have any of them lost faith in Jesus or whatever bull over people hear try to come up with.

Here's a better picture & location, just for you!

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[TD="colspan: 2, align: center"]The Abou Ben Adhem Shrine Mosque is located in downtown Springfield, Missouri on St. Louis Street.[/TD]
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[TD]Springfield, MO, USA[/TD]
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37°12′33.94″N93°17′10.5″W

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37°12′33.94″N 93°17′10.5″W​

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[TD]1920[/TD]
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[TD]Heckenlively & Mark; John Olson[/TD]
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The Abou Ben Adhem Shrine Mosque (often known locally as "the Shrine Mosque" or simply "the Shrine") is a building of arabesque design located in downtown Springfield, Missouri, USA. It is owned by the Ancient Arabic Order of the Nobles of the Mystic Shrine (more commonly known as the Shriners), and is the site of the annual Shrine Circus. The five-story building includes a large auditorium with seating for over 4,000 and has often been used for concerts. It was built in 1923 for a cost of $600,000 and placed on the National Register of Historic Places in 1982.

 

[Elysian]

''No god but Allah'',I have been trying to tell people for years that Freemasonry/Shriner is interchangeable with Islam but they just don't want to listen.The past few years these Muppets have been externalizing things mainly because the masses have been buttered up enough to accept most of their poison,allthough believe me if they did not operate under secrecy years ago they would have been simply lynched.
Quiet frankly Freemasonry would have been something I would have tried years ago when I was on drugs,that's how Bat crazy it is.

 

[Angela53510]

Well, I had decided to leave this thread alone because it got really off topic. And after this post I probably won't post anything else under it...just because the intent of this post was to see how couples handled the man being in the lodge or wanting to join the lodge. This was never intended to make anyone a Mason or talk bad about anyone. I am ashamed of some of the things a few have said on this thread "in the name of Christianity."

But, as requested, I will now share the secret of Freemasonry. This afternoon, I went to a memorial service. This service was for the wife of 49 years of a gentleman at my lodge. I have never met his wife. She has been sick and in a hospital it of town the entire time I have known him. There was a rather large crowd at this church for the service. Many in attendance were brothers from our lodge and many others that were from lodges around the area. Many of these men had not known his wife either (though many did). We all came to support our grieving brother. There have been other tokens of brotherly love an affection shown toward this grieving brother as there will continue to be. It hit me as I was standing at the service...standing room only for some of us...that's the point of freemasonry. Yes, we have initiations and such. I've yet to have to swear to anything against Christianity. But, it's about being there for one another. While you clearly do not have to be a Mason to do this, it's encouraging to go to an event like this and to see so many brothers in attendance to support a grieving brother and his family. If you can consider that a bad thing...I'm not sure what what way your moral compass in leading you.

If you attended a good church, served and were active in ministry in the church, this same sort of thing happens. When my father died, he had been saved for 5 months and never attended a church. I had the memorial at my church, and all my friends, and many other members who did not know my father turned up. They stood with me through that trying time. And I didn't have to worry about secret initiations, rites and rituals that have nothing to do with God.

You need to rethink your commitment to the masons. You can do as much charity work with a good Bible believing church, find support and encouagement and a place for your wife, too. Nothing need be hidden from your wife, you can share following God together.

 

[ManonFire63]

Masonry is not Evil in itself. It is a tool. What have people done with Masonry? How did they use it? Did they use it to build God and his Kingdom, or for personal gain?

I am not a Mason. My Grandpa and Great Grandpa were. My Grandpa was a great Christian who was constantly looking to learn more and talk more about God. Being a Mason does not make you Evil or keep you from Heaven, but there is a lot of danger in it.

The Stone Rejected by The Builders Becomes the Chief Cornerstone. (Psalms 118:22)(Luke 20:9-19)(Acts 4:11)
There had to be a falling away.

The Masons are Builders similar to how Israel coming out of Egypt were Builders. Masons claim a direct line of heritage to the building of Solomon's Temple, and knowledge of Ancient things; however, they are not a Christian organization. You can be of any religion and join. Why? Satan is a liar, and God is a square. God made rules and works in the world a certain way. Satan comes around with a paint brush, and paints all those parts in ways that suit Satan.

For example, Buddha fights Mara the desire demon who has three daughters who try and seduce him. Allah, the Arabic Moon God similar to Baal has three daughters whose idols are in Mecca. Hugh Hefner keeps three girlfriends on rotation. There is some truth about the supernatural and the principalities in there.

Blood covers sins. Israel in the old testament made sin offerings. Jesus is the sacrificial lamb of God. Many pagan religions sacrificed humans. God is a square and Satan is a liar.

Someone, like a Mason, who is a deist, has access to this knowledge, what does he do with it? Does he use it to serve God or to whip up some sorcery? Some Masons and Shriners, are known to be Lucifarians. They believe Jesus is the dark and Lucifer is light. They are wrong. (Isaiah 45:7)

I would be careful joining an organization that keeps secrets. Satanists are keepers and peddlers of secrets and liars. What happens behind closed doors?

There had to be a falling away. (2 Thessalonians 2:3)

 

[NFD33]

If you attended a good church, served and were active in ministry in the church, this same sort of thing happens. When my father died, he had been saved for 5 months and never attended a church. I had the memorial at my church, and all my friends, and many other members who did not know my father turned up. They stood with me through that trying time. And I didn't have to worry about secret initiations, rites and rituals that have nothing to do with God.

You need to rethink your commitment to the masons. You can do as much charity work with a good Bible believing church, find support and encouagement and a place for your wife, too. Nothing need be hidden from your wife, you can share following God together.

Here's the thing...I do go to a good church and am extremely active in the church. I've also never said this wasn't possible through church groups. But, like everyone else...there you go assuming. Again, not a sole that has posted on here against freemasonry has a clue what they are talking about.

 

[Angela53510]

Here's the thing...I do go to a good church and am extremely active in the church. I've also never said this wasn't possible through church groups. But, like everyone else...there you go assuming. Again, not a sole that has posted on here against freemasonry has a clue what they are talking about.

I was addressing your comment about the support you got from your Mason friends. I believe you can find the same kind of support in a Bible believing church. Without all the secret rites and rituals. I pray the Lord will strike the scales from your eyes, that are obviously blinding you.