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Leah09

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My friend is new to Christianity and she had two questions i couldn't answer.

  1. why do people live hundreds of years after God says the average lifespan will be no more than 120?
2. Why are birds so special?
 
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Kendall202

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well I cant answer to number 1 bc Ive never heard of such a thing in my life!
And birds are special bc they are the most favorable creatures that can fly....well thats my opinion..

-Kendall-
 
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Abing

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1. And the LORD said, “My Spirit shall not strive[a] with man forever, for he is indeed flesh; yet his days shall be one hundred and twenty years.”
Genesis 6:3


2. "And to offer a sacrifice according to that which is said in the law of the Lord, A pair of turtledoves, or two young pigeons." - Luke 2:24
--> Birds were used for sacrifices
" If you come across a bird's nest beside the road, either in a tree or on the ground, and the mother is sitting on the young or on the eggs, do not take the mother with the young. 7 You may take the young, but be sure to let the mother go, so that it may go well with you and you may have a long life."Deut. 22:6-7


perhaps someone can answer the first question.. cuz im confused :S

 

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jjkg

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Leah, these questions from your friend are related to which verse or verses in the Bible?
I'm thinking that the second one is because of the verse that states not even a sparrow falls to the ground without God knowing about it......God is comparing His love to us with His love for the rest of creation and how much greater His love for us truly is. Basically, He's saying, "If I care that much for one of my own creations, how much more do you think I care about you?"
 
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NazariteNation

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My friend is new to Christianity and she had two questions i couldn't answer.

  1. why do people live hundreds of years after God says the average lifespan will be no more than 120?

Adam lived 930 years. Methuselah lived the longest at 969 years. Eventually would come Noah, who would be the last of those who lived extended lives, who lived 950 years.

However, in the time of Noah, the mindset of the people turned away from God and onto selfish pursuits. God decided to judge the world of it's evil doings and as punishment the world would be destroy by a great flood sparring only Noah and his family. Noah was believed to be around 600 years old at the time of the flood and I believe it took about 100 years to build it. Many believe that not only did the entire landscape of the earth change during this cataclysmic event but also the atmosphere itself. Thus after the flood, planet Earth was no longer hospitable to acomodate such long life spans.

The life span average before the flood was aroud 900 years, after the flood was around 200 years. Noah lived another 350 years after the flood. His son Shem, from which the Jews descended, lived 600 years or so. Lifespans would eventually grow shorter until the time of Abraham (who lived 175 years). His son Isaac died at the age of 180. Grandson, Jacob died at the age of 147. Great grandson Joseph (who became a great ruler in Egypt) Joseph died at 110. It wasn't until the time of Moses that God set restricted mankind's lifespan to 120 years.

BUT...

And there is a lot of debate about this... After Christ returns to establish his kingdom here on earth, it is believed that the earth will be reset to pre-flood condiitions and the physical lifespan of a man will return to 1000 years.
 
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NazariteNation

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However, in the time of Noah, the mindset of the people turned away from God and onto selfish pursuits. God decided to judge the world of it's evil doings and as punishment the world would be destroy by a great flood sparring only Noah and his family. Noah was believed to be around 600 years old at the time of the flood and I believe it took about 100 years to build it. Many believe that not only did the entire landscape of the earth change during this cataclysmic event but also the atmosphere itself. Thus after the flood, planet Earth was no longer hospitable to acomodate such long life spans.

The life span average before the flood was aroud 900 years, after the flood was around 200 years. Noah lived another 350 years after the flood. His son Shem, from which the Jews descended, lived 600 years or so.
By the way, it should be noted that Shem was indeed alive before the flood. He was around 100 years old when the flood occured which means Shem lived the longest of any man after the flood in the amount 500 years... however I don't recall if the bible ever mentions Shem seeing his great, great, etc. grandson Abraham however, there are some theologians who believe Shem to be the mysterious Melchizedek. The reason for this being that it is widely believed that it was Shem who inherited and settled ancient Israel however, the land itself would eventually become named after the Canaan, son of Shem's brother Ham, whom Noah cursed to be Shem's slave.
 
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Leah09

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Thanks for all the comments. I will let her know. She's so close to becoming a Christian and it's like she's almost there. I really didn't know how to answer either question because in all honesty I never concerned myself with that. Then of course some have seen my queston so i dont have much room to talk. lol
 
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Kendall202

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haha wow..now I feel like my answers were pathetic.
 
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sutra

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Shem did see Abraham. Actually Abraham was sent unto the house of Noah and Shem and there he was instructed in the ways of the Lord.
 
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carpetmanswife

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the key word there is .." average" meaning not exact and as far as birds go...*shrugs*
 

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Kendall202

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well ONE person thinks so
 
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Leah09

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aww kendall, your answers still count. the fact that you took the time look and reply makes me happy :D you are not pathetic lol if anyone is it's me (refer to my thread in the singles forum lol)
 
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Kendall202

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haha thanks :)
 
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Abing

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hahah see kendall.. u arent pathetic.. and Leah said so ;) and u were the very first one to answer
 
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Kendall202

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that is true I was, but everyone else had scriptures and a lot of good points, thats only why I said that.
My measly statements on top of everyone's wonderful points...to me it just looked kind of lame,haha.
 
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Leah09

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kendall? lame? nope! come on who has the nickname mozarella? now that's lame (dont ask abing lol)
 
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NazariteNation

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Shem did see Abraham. Actually Abraham was sent unto the house of Noah and Shem and there he was instructed in the ways of the Lord.

I must have missed that somehow... it's been a while since Ive read the actual text in Gen. I'll have to do some more research.
 
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sutra

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It's actually in the book of Jasher :)
 
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NazariteNation

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It's actually in the book of Jasher :)
Actually I've been meaning to get my hands on a copy of of the book of Jasher for some time now. Personally, although I do own a copy of Josephus' writtings, I tend to be a bit skeptical of reading anything outside of the biblical text (especially those books which are considered to have been written by gnostics) however, there is a piece of biblical scripture (which escapes my memory at the moment) that makes reference to Jasher made by Jesus Himself if I remember correctly.
 
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