Catholic Heresy (for the record)

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You say I'm doing idolatry. I and 1 Billion Catholics disagree
All 1 billion are wrong, and do not know or understand the word of God because they, like lemmings, have allowed themselves to be led around by a false religion who claims to do all the interpreting of the word of God for them.
 
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The definition of idolatry is to worship a physial thing as God. I in no way do this! Niether does the Church! That would be blasphemy! Mary is not an idol since I do not believe she is God. A statue can't be an idol because I don't believe it is God
Mary is indeed an idol, as the RCC has made her equal to Jesus Christ, who ALONE is our mediator and our intercessor, and it is through Him alone and His name alone that we pray to God!

The RCC tends toward making physical things a substitute for the true, such as the rosary, various icons, scapulars, monstrance, holy water, statues, etc, etc, etc---objects of worship, and objects that evoke false worship.
 
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ummm, okthe rapture fairy tale? And you say i don't understand the bible?
It's obvious you do not, with that quip.

You still need to answrer my question also! When was it that you first accepted Jesus Christ as your Saviour and Lord? Everyone who is born again has had a moment in time where one has had such a reckoning with sinfulness and have turned their hearts to Jesus Christ for salvation. For me it was August 10, 1962. When was your special new birth day?
 
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We believe in the Communion of Saints through intercessory prayer. Mary falls into this catagory, NOT the God catagory. I know you probably don't know the communion of saints, but i do and we just disagree on this

Real pity to hear that!

Why don't you leave the Catholic church for a little while and join a protestant denomination!

Then you would be in a good position to see what is the Will of Jesus!
 
Nov 14, 2012
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Real pity to hear that!

Why don't you leave the Catholic church for a little while and join a protestant denomination!

Then you would be in a good position to see what is the Will of Jesus!
Lol Been there done that. From what i witnessed was emotion driven services led by rock groups . I visited a Pentacostal church that scared me with all their gibbering and what not. No, I'm fine where I'm at.
 
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Lol Been there done that. From what i witnessed was emotion driven services led by rock groups . I visited a Pentacostal church that scared me with all their gibbering and what not. No, I'm fine where I'm at.
I doubt you are in a position to be able to judge what is true and of the Spirit of God and what isn't.
 

SweetShelly35

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The Catholic church believes in works salvation, they confess sins to a man who calls himself The Father, and then they repent to Mary. I would rather go to no church at all than to go to the Catholic church and support the Vatican.
Need I say more........?

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Dec 26, 2014
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we are sadly and prayerfully for your sake

watching the devil pull your strings as he dances you like a puppet without your will or knowledge.

a marionette? , the devil is tearing you and your family and your church to shreds right before all of your very eyes, and you all don't even know it -----

the devil keeps all of you easily deceived because you all want human approval and comfort
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not one of you (apparently) realizes anything GOD'S WORD SAYS,

and the devil KEEPS YOU ALL THAT WAY, so not one of you escape the devils clutches,

and HE ENJOYS MOST OF ALL DEVOURING YOUR VERY OWN CHILDREN...... right before your very own eyes !!!!

and no man on earth can help you or them as long as you accept all the lies of rcc, and

continue to refuse to seek the truth.

Just tryin to lighten the mood a little ya'll. I feel partly responsible for so much tension here! I'm sorry
 
Feb 26, 2015
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You mwc68 are being deceived into thinking you have received Salvation. Satan will never allow you to receive Salvation, he does not want you to learn the Truth and leave the Roman Catholic Church.

You claim to have received Salvation but you still teach the lies of the Roman Catholic Church as truths from God. But you still worship Mary as your God. But you still put Mary above God with your lying mouth.

I can see you will never accept Salvation from God because having Mary as your God means more to you. And yes i can tell you have never received Salvation. You see I have the Gift of the Holy Spirit the gift of the Discerning of Spirits. The Holy Spirit has told me you are doing what the Roman Catholic Church says not what the Scriptures say. We can treat you as a false christian, a wolf in sheep clothing.

Its a shame that you are so willing to spend Eternity in the Lake of Fire. Its your PRIDE as a Roman Catholic that is keeping you from accepting the Truth from the Holy Spirit. You are not the first person in the Roman Catholic Church to toss away their Salvation just to have their ears tickled by the false doctrines of the Roman Catholic Church. And you will not be the last person either.

Unfortunately the Teachings of the Roman Catholic Church has deceived you into rejecting God to follow Mary instead. You can claim all you want that Mary is not your God, but your actions and doctrines you teach do say Mary is your God.
 
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It's obvious you do not, with that quip.

You still need to answrer my question also! When was it that you first accepted Jesus Christ as your Saviour and Lord? Everyone who is born again has had a moment in time where one has had such a reckoning with sinfulness and have turned their hearts to Jesus Christ for salvation. For me it was August 10, 1962. When was your special new birth day?
I'm not sure exactly what your asking and it really sounds like a set up to further dog Catholicism, but here goes. I was raised in the Church. Born and bred Catholic , Italian with a Texas accent! Lol I have known about Our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ my whole life. When did I accept Him into my heart? I was in 8th grade and we had an assembly with a comedian. This guy was hilarious! He was promoting a show later that evening and my sister and I begged my mom to let us go. A neighor of ours was going and mom let us go with them. The event was being held at the big local baptist church. When the show started, He was just as funny as he was at school. Then he started telling us kids his personal story, testimony if you will. As I listened, I agreed more and more, afterall I had been raised with Jesus as a big part of my life. Then he did what I guess you would say is an altar call. My sister actually went to the front there, but I stayed in my seat and prayed and asked Jesus to come into my heart! From that moment church has been different for me. I feel the burn in my heart when I am in His will and the strong conviction when I face temptation. I hope this makes sense. I am a Christian and always will be. That's why I take some offense at the suggestion that I'm not.The year was 1983 and I don't remember the exact date, but it was fall football season.
 
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Real pity to hear that!

Why don't you leave the Catholic church for a little while and join a protestant denomination!

Then you would be in a good position to see what is the Will of Jesus!
Why a pity?
 
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Its interesting that you mwc68 was raised in the Roman Catholic Church but yet you did not accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior until the age 13! WOW. What exactly was the Roman Catholic Church teaching you that took 13 years to finally Accept Salvation?

Are you saying the Roman Catholic Church never taught you about receiving Salvation?

Its interesting that you found Jesus Christ OUTSIDE of the Roman Catholic Church!

So why then having accepted Jesus Christ did you stay in a Church that refused to teach you about receiving Salvation?

By what you have said here proves the Roman Catholic Church is a false church. So why are you still in the Roman Catholic Church mwc68?
 

valiant

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The definition of idolatry is to worship a physial thing as God. I in no way do this! Niether does the Church! That would be blasphemy! Mary is not an idol since I do not believe she is God. A statue can't be an idol because I don't believe it is God
Do you deny that they are graven images? If you do you need to learn English.
 
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Its interesting that you mwc68 was raised in the Roman Catholic Church but yet you did not accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior until the age 13! WOW. What exactly was the Roman Catholic Church teaching you that took 13 years to finally Accept Salvation?

Are you saying the Roman Catholic Church never taught you about receiving Salvation?

Its interesting that you found Jesus Christ OUTSIDE of the Roman Catholic Church!

So why then having accepted Jesus Christ did you stay in a Church that refused to teach you about receiving Salvation?

By what you have said here proves the Roman Catholic Church is a false church. So why are you still in the Roman Catholic Church mwc68?
I knew it! Lol I was gonna get criticised for part of my story! I didn't say the church didn't teach me about salvation, i just didn't really accept it until then as a for real deal for me. It really could have happened anywhere!
 

valiant

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You say I'm doing idolatry. I and 1 Billion Catholics disagree
Half a billion of those blatantly worship Mary.


    1. Delivery Prayer To Mary Hymns Bakti, 1991, No. 52

    1. Holy Mary, Mother of our Lord Jesus Christ, thou art Queen's noblest. so good you became queen of us all. Show (Tunjukanlah) to us the path to holiness and guide us so as not to get lost.
      Take charge of our mind, so we're just looking for the right.
      We will be over, so we just want good.
      Take charge of our hearts, that we love one another as a brother.
      Overcome ourselves each and all family members.
      Overcome all members of society, every nation and world dignitaries.
      May they strap you into them all in a firm unity.
      Overcome all mankind.
      Open to the path of faith for those who are not familiar with your Son, Jesus.
      Help for all nations to have a united, harmonious and peaceful life.
      Watch over (Naungilah) all mankind, especially the persecuted and hounded.
      They bear it in oppression and enlighten those in darkness, in order to remain faithful to Jesus, your son.
      Present (Hantarlah) all our petition to thy Son, the Maharaja, king of peace, where every prayer of the petition is granted, every load lightened hearts and infirmities healed.
      I hope people who know His power and put hope in Him. occasionally see the royal splendor of thy Son, who with the Father and the Holy Spirit lives and power, now and all time. Amen

    1. Gregory XVI., in 1832,
      Says, in his Encyclical Letter [MIRARI VOS], published August 15th of that year: † "But that all things may have a prosperous and happy issue, let us raise our eyes and hands to the most holy Virgin Mary, who only destroys all heresies, who is our greatest hope; yea, the entire ground of our hope.
      Prayer to the Blessed Virgin
      Most Holy and Immaculate Virgin! O my Mother! Thou who art the Mother of my Lord, the Queen of the world, the advocate, hope, and refuge of sinners! I, the most wretched among them, now come to thee. I worship thee, great Queen, and give thee thanks for the many favors thou hast bestowed on my in the past; most of all do I thank thee for having saved me from hell, which I had so often deserved. I love thee, Lady most worthy of all love, and, by the love which I bear thee, I promise ever in the future to serve thee, and to do what in me lies to win others to thy love. In thee I put all my trust, all my hope of salvation. Receive me as thy servant, and cover me with the mantle of thy protection, thou who art the Mother of mercy! And since thou hast so much power with God, deliver me from all temptations, or at least obtain for me the grace ever to overcome them. From thee I ask a true love of Jesus Christ, and the grace of a happy death. O my Mother! By thy love for God I beseech thee to be at all times my helper, but above all at the last moment of my life. Leave me not until thou seest me safe in heaven, there for endless ages to bless thee and sing thy praises. Such is my hope. Amen.― (Prayer of St. Alphonse Liguori, 3 yrs indulgence,Raccolta, 342)




 
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I knew it! Lol I was gonna get criticised for part of my story! I didn't say the church didn't teach me about salvation, i just didn't really accept it until then as a for real deal for me. It really could have happened anywhere!
When did it happen for you if I may be so bold?
 
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jaybird88

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Jaybird88, we do not try our best to be a Christian. Either you are a Christian or you are not a Christian. We do not become a True Christian by our own efforts!
please do not cut and edit my words to fit your views.
i said try my best to serve the Lord not be a Christian.

If you have received Salvation but keep on practicing sin you cannot enter into Heaven.
so if i accept Jesus, make a mistake and sin, Jesus will not forgive me, game over, i go straight to hell? with all due respect i dont think Jesus teaches that at all.

There are two conditions for entering into Heaven. One is receiving Salvation, the other is to stop sinning willingly.
what did Jesus tell the good samaritan?

Now the question is if you have received Salvation why would you want to continue in sin?
i dont want to sin, and i am not aware of anyone (that serves the Lord) that wants to. why would they??

God wants us to stop sinning willingly and follow Him. There will be times when we will fail and will sin. When this happens we are to ask Jesus Christ to forgive us of this sin and sin no more.
i agree with you

We are not to continue doing this sin day after day after day like the Roman Catholics do.
and this is exactly what i dont care for about this thread. who are you to judge so many millions? i would feel ashamed to make such a wild arrogant boast. what divine power do you have to look into the hearts of so many. what an ugly thing to say.
 
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Tankman131

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Half a billion of those blatantly worship Mary.


    1. Delivery Prayer To Mary Hymns Bakti, 1991, No. 52

    1. Holy Mary, Mother of our Lord Jesus Christ, thou art Queen's noblest. so good you became queen of us all. Show (Tunjukanlah) to us the path to holiness and guide us so as not to get lost.
      Take charge of our mind, so we're just looking for the right.
      We will be over, so we just want good.
      Take charge of our hearts, that we love one another as a brother.
      Overcome ourselves each and all family members.
      Overcome all members of society, every nation and world dignitaries.
      May they strap you into them all in a firm unity.
      Overcome all mankind.
      Open to the path of faith for those who are not familiar with your Son, Jesus.
      Help for all nations to have a united, harmonious and peaceful life.
      Watch over (Naungilah) all mankind, especially the persecuted and hounded.
      They bear it in oppression and enlighten those in darkness, in order to remain faithful to Jesus, your son.
      Present (Hantarlah) all our petition to thy Son, the Maharaja, king of peace, where every prayer of the petition is granted, every load lightened hearts and infirmities healed.
      I hope people who know His power and put hope in Him. occasionally see the royal splendor of thy Son, who with the Father and the Holy Spirit lives and power, now and all time. Amen
    1. Gregory XVI., in 1832,
      Says, in his Encyclical Letter [MIRARI VOS], published August 15th of that year: † "But that all things may have a prosperous and happy issue, let us raise our eyes and hands to the most holy Virgin Mary, who only destroys all heresies, who is our greatest hope; yea, the entire ground of our hope.
      Prayer to the Blessed Virgin
      Most Holy and Immaculate Virgin! O my Mother! Thou who art the Mother of my Lord, the Queen of the world, the advocate, hope, and refuge of sinners! I, the most wretched among them, now come to thee. I worship thee, great Queen, and give thee thanks for the many favors thou hast bestowed on my in the past; most of all do I thank thee for having saved me from hell, which I had so often deserved. I love thee, Lady most worthy of all love, and, by the love which I bear thee, I promise ever in the future to serve thee, and to do what in me lies to win others to thy love. In thee I put all my trust, all my hope of salvation. Receive me as thy servant, and cover me with the mantle of thy protection, thou who art the Mother of mercy! And since thou hast so much power with God, deliver me from all temptations, or at least obtain for me the grace ever to overcome them. From thee I ask a true love of Jesus Christ, and the grace of a happy death. O my Mother! By thy love for God I beseech thee to be at all times my helper, but above all at the last moment of my life. Leave me not until thou seest me safe in heaven, there for endless ages to bless thee and sing thy praises. Such is my hope. Amen.― (Prayer of St. Alphonse Liguori, 3 yrs indulgence,Raccolta, 342)



Wow... That is far worse than i thought. Its crazy how blatant the Mary worship is. Why do they try to hide it?

As for this thread... I genuinely hope not all 1 billion catholics agree with mwc because that would mean 1 billion people claiming to be christians while they worship idols and disbelieve the Bible.
 
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and this is exactly what i dont care for about this thread. who are you to judge so many millions? i would feel ashamed to make such a wild arrogant boast. what divine power do you have to look into the hearts of so many. what an ugly thing to say.
It doesn't take divine power to see church doctrine calling for people to worship an idol.