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Is a life without sinning possible?
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if we stick to what yahweh reveals from heaven, in line with all of his word in yahshua,
then you
don't have any good doctrine, any meat of the word, any truth, or the ability of even a babe in Christ Jesus
to tell the difference between "Good and evil".
then you
don't have any good doctrine, any meat of the word, any truth, or the ability of even a babe in Christ Jesus
to tell the difference between "Good and evil".
No, I do not reject John 5:24. You are reading that verse from an askewed point of view and you are rejecting the context (Which is verse 29):
"And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation."
Nor do I reject John 10:28, either. Again, you are reading this verse from an askewed point of view and you reject the context (in verse 27) that says,
" My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:"
In other words, the context are the type of sheep that follow Jesus. They are not rebellious sheep that Jesus is dragging about as if they were dogs on leashes that are stubborn.
While that may be true, I prefer to distance myself in what you claim because our two beliefs on God and the Bible is nothing alike at all.
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Gr8grace
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Exactly. And that means you can't lose your salvation. Because Christ never leaves nor forsakes us.
And if we have no power in and of ourselves, we can't "unsave ourselves" or be "unborn."
No. God doesn't override your free will and force you to be saved. If that was the case, then everyone would be saved then.
Oh, and there is no such thing as being unborn. People are born into this world and then they die. So that means a believer can die spiritually just as they were born spiritually. For it's why there are so many warnings in the Bible to the believer.
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cmarieh
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You may not be able to lose your salvation, however you can choose to walk away from Christ. Yes, God will never leave us or forsake us, but we still have the choice whether or not to follow Christ. God will welcome them with open arms once that admit their sin and ask for forgiveness.
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So, if we choose to walk away, he will leave us and forsake us?
Even if we walk away, He still has to leave. And He promises that he will not.
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Gr8grace
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Jason, you have to engage at least a bit. I was talking about a person that was already saved. Not about getting saved.
No. Nowhere does it ever say we can reject God and his ways and still be saved. What verse even says that?
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Gr8grace
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are you in the rcc heresy? or trust hasatan's church?
in the rcc they don't worry about living without sin.
they never get forgiven, so
they never have to worry about living as Jesus says to live, not sinning
- they just go on and on and on sinning, just as if
it doesn't matter, arm in arm on the broad road(Jesus says) to destruction.
I like it.
Except, even in his Dunb and Dumber character , Jim Carrey makes too much sense for a thead that believes we can be sinless.
Ya know, we have proof that the ringleader of this nasty little teaching has stated on 3 or 4 occasions that ....
"believers can stumble in sin every once in awhile"
Confused a bit, l guess?
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cmarieh
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And the Bible disagrees wth you.
1 Peter 4:1 says they that have suffered in the flesh have ceased (stopped) from sin.
Galatians 5:24 says that they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with affections and lusts.
Peter identifies certain false prophets as having eyes full of adultery who cannot cease from sin (2 Peter 2:1, 14).
Jesus says be ye perfect as your heavenly father is perfect (Matthew 5:48).
Paul says that if any man teaches contrary to the words of Jesus Christ and the doctrine of Godliness is proud and they know nothing (1 Timothy 6:3-4).
John says he that says he knows him and does not keep his commandments is a liar and the truth is not in them (1 John 2:4).
Jesus told the woman caught in the act of adultery to .... "sin no more." (John 8:11).
Jesus defined repentance for us in the Bible. Jesus said the Ninevites will rise up in Judgment against this generation because they repented at the preaching of Jonah. If you were to turn to Jonah chapter 3, you would learn that they turned from their wicked and evil ways as a part of their repentance (Matthew 12:41) (Jonah 3:8-10).
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Rom 6:23~~New American Standard Bible
For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.
Rom 11:29~~New American Standard Bible
for the gifts and the calling of God are irrevocable.
The gift of eternal life is IRREVOCABLE. That pretty much sums it up.
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DesiredHaven
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I agree that you can walk away from the LORD, otherwise he wouldnt have warned us to take heed in departing from him
Heb 3:12 Take heed, brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief, in departing from the living God.
Jerm 17:13 O LORD, the hope of Israel, all that forsake thee shall be ashamed, and they that depart from me shall be written in the earth, because they have forsaken the LORD, the fountain of living waters.
Although the only way to come to God is by Christ, so when he writes
2 John 1:9a Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God.
It shows they do not have God the Father any longer
On the otherhand it says...
2 John 1:9b He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.
The one establishes the link to the other