Is a life without sinning possible?
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If you are referring to Redeemed, I disagree. At least he gives the Lord credit for his supposed obedience; instead of patting himself on the back. Even ISIT doesn't seem to fit that mold. I disagree with both of them; but I can understand where they are coming from; and it is NOT self glorification. I think that they both fail to recognize or admit to their unguarded moments; but they both seem to believe what they are saying; and both usually try to respond to questions and opposing points of view.
You are ignoring the wages of sin is death part. Also, in the real world we live in today, gifts come with responsibilties. This is important to point out because Jesus used real world examples to illustrate spiritual truth (i.e. parables). In fact, we learn that a Cannaanite woman relates to Jesus so as to help her daughter by using a real world example.
No, it doesn't. This was said to unsaved Israel, although the truth of this verse can be applied to all unbelievers.
No, it doesn't. This was said to unsaved Israel, although the truth of this verse can be applied to all unbelievers.
queers/ abominations/ perverts use that word phobia.
believers don't.
the Scripture you quoted earlier doesn't apply to you,
nor do you understand it(in or out of context(i think you mentioned earlier something about context, then you ignore it completely(not that it matters) ) ) . see below.
i.e. don't worry about being removed if you're not grafted in yet.
[h=3]A word of warning[/h][SUP]17-21 [/SUP]But if some of the branches of the tree have been broken off, while you, like shoots of wild-olive, have been grafted in, and don’t share like a natural branch the rich nourishment of the root, don’t let yourself feel superior to those former branches. (If you feel inclined that way, remind yourself that you do not support the root, the root supports you.) You may make the natural retort, “But the branches were broken off to make room for my grafting!” It wasn’t quite like that. They lost their position because they failed to believe; you only maintain yours because you do believe. The situation does not call for conceit but for a certain wholesome fear. If God removed the natural branches for a good reason, take care that you don’t give him the same reason for removing you.
believers don't.
the Scripture you quoted earlier doesn't apply to you,
nor do you understand it(in or out of context(i think you mentioned earlier something about context, then you ignore it completely(not that it matters) ) ) . see below.
i.e. don't worry about being removed if you're not grafted in yet.
[h=3]A word of warning[/h][SUP]17-21 [/SUP]But if some of the branches of the tree have been broken off, while you, like shoots of wild-olive, have been grafted in, and don’t share like a natural branch the rich nourishment of the root, don’t let yourself feel superior to those former branches. (If you feel inclined that way, remind yourself that you do not support the root, the root supports you.) You may make the natural retort, “But the branches were broken off to make room for my grafting!” It wasn’t quite like that. They lost their position because they failed to believe; you only maintain yours because you do believe. The situation does not call for conceit but for a certain wholesome fear. If God removed the natural branches for a good reason, take care that you don’t give him the same reason for removing you.
It is the same principle. If God is willing to bend over backwards and turn a blind eye to the evils that a believer does, then surely he will do the same with an unbeliever, too. For you have implied that a person can reject God (and turn away from Him) and still be saved. How would that person be any different than an unbeliever if they reject Christ or turn away from him?
I agree. 1 John 1:8 (gotta love this one, they don't.)
Matthew 18:21-22
21Then Peter came to Jesus and asked, “Lord, how many times shall I forgive my brother or sister who sins against me? Up to seven times?”
22Jesus answered, “I tell you, not seven times, but seventy-seven times.
Key words being "brother" and "sister" Peter, being a servant, saved, and knowing how Jesus used definitions.
Mark 3:35
For whosoever shall do the will of God, the same is my brother, and my sister, and mother.
Jesus states to forgive over and over to a fellow brother or sister that KEEPS SINNING. Not because they choose to, but because they will.
Just one of many examples.
Matthew 18:21-22
21Then Peter came to Jesus and asked, “Lord, how many times shall I forgive my brother or sister who sins against me? Up to seven times?”
22Jesus answered, “I tell you, not seven times, but seventy-seven times.
Key words being "brother" and "sister" Peter, being a servant, saved, and knowing how Jesus used definitions.
Mark 3:35
For whosoever shall do the will of God, the same is my brother, and my sister, and mother.
Jesus states to forgive over and over to a fellow brother or sister that KEEPS SINNING. Not because they choose to, but because they will.
Just one of many examples.
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so, again you lie,
you don't have a phobia about lying,
you don't repent of lying,
and you think willful(or is your sinning unwillful?) sinning is okay.
maybe you have no phobia of death or sin or judgment either.
and you still think Jesus let you enter heaven some day ? (He may, if you repent, Yahweh willing)
you don't have a phobia about lying,
you don't repent of lying,
and you think willful(or is your sinning unwillful?) sinning is okay.
maybe you have no phobia of death or sin or judgment either.
and you still think Jesus let you enter heaven some day ? (He may, if you repent, Yahweh willing)
Christ died for the sins of the entire world, but that does not mean everyone is saved. The free gift has to be received and then one has to abide by the terms of the contract in regards to keeping that free gift. For you can receive a free car, but that does not mean you can run red lights, run over people, and or drive drunk and still expect to keep your free gift. For like I said, gifts come with certain responsibilties. For the wages of sin is still death if a person decides to one day reject the free gift.
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yes indeed. your lies are posted, by you, for all to see(if they can read english, or have a translator). your lack of repentance clearly seen.
not explained, but seen.
maybe you don't claim to be Christian. ......
that may be good then(for you).
explains a lot(including why you don't repent of sin).
not explained, but seen.
maybe you don't claim to be Christian. ......
that may be good then(for you).
explains a lot(including why you don't repent of sin).
He who ? .....
the longer the unrepentant sinner posts, the more he posts his own sin.
women usually quit sooner, because they get exposed quicker and instead of admitting it
prefer to just go somewhere else and pretend it didn't happen..... but there's a permanent
record.... so neither men nor women escape judgment by pretending instead of repenting.
the longer the unrepentant sinner posts, the more he posts his own sin.
women usually quit sooner, because they get exposed quicker and instead of admitting it
prefer to just go somewhere else and pretend it didn't happen..... but there's a permanent
record.... so neither men nor women escape judgment by pretending instead of repenting.
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You is the "he who"? LOL
I think he was saying this thing with you was playing out for all to see, while I was somewhat agreeing I was not so much agreeing all the same way.
Although I cant tell of anything else you might be speaking about because I just havent followed up reading anything beyond this thread, and I hadnt even gone back too far within this one.
I think he was saying this thing with you was playing out for all to see, while I was somewhat agreeing I was not so much agreeing all the same way.
Although I cant tell of anything else you might be speaking about because I just havent followed up reading anything beyond this thread, and I hadnt even gone back too far within this one.
yes, good. this happens when a liar tries to escape notice by deceptive tactics, whether they even know it or not doesn't matter - they're controlled by things
that's brought up in Ephesians about them - before they're saved, then later, if they get saved, they can finally learn and know the truth.
until then, they, like everyone else, are unwitting dupes of the prince of the power of the air, and they cannot tell the difference between the truth and a lie,
or
between darkness and light, or between a real believer and a hypocrite ---
to them it is all a vague mist of guesswork and deceptions that they have believed from the ones they trust (whether family, spouse, pastor, etc etc etc )
sometimes it has taken a couple weeks to get them to reveal what god they are serving when
they don't serve the one true GOD,
sometimes it only takes one or two posts.
if they are not 'challenged', they can go on and on for years here on this forum without
ever finding out the truth.....
and without finding out the truth, there's no chance at all for their salvation...
once they find out the truth, or have a chance to, they then have a chance to truly be saved.
and GOD freely gives them that chance. they don't have to take it though. most don't.
many prefer to remain with the unsaved, even though they give up the only chance for eternal life / salvation ... they want the approval of men, instead of the approval of GOD.
that's brought up in Ephesians about them - before they're saved, then later, if they get saved, they can finally learn and know the truth.
until then, they, like everyone else, are unwitting dupes of the prince of the power of the air, and they cannot tell the difference between the truth and a lie,
or
between darkness and light, or between a real believer and a hypocrite ---
to them it is all a vague mist of guesswork and deceptions that they have believed from the ones they trust (whether family, spouse, pastor, etc etc etc )
sometimes it has taken a couple weeks to get them to reveal what god they are serving when
they don't serve the one true GOD,
sometimes it only takes one or two posts.
if they are not 'challenged', they can go on and on for years here on this forum without
ever finding out the truth.....
and without finding out the truth, there's no chance at all for their salvation...
once they find out the truth, or have a chance to, they then have a chance to truly be saved.
and GOD freely gives them that chance. they don't have to take it though. most don't.
many prefer to remain with the unsaved, even though they give up the only chance for eternal life / salvation ... they want the approval of men, instead of the approval of GOD.
Confession of a young teenager
When my mother asked me to lay the table for a family meal, I got so angry. I then thought, "Why am I getting angry? I have only been asked to lay the table."
Now life often gets in the way of good intentions, buried reactions or just mood swings can cause inappropriate behaviour.
The problem is then apportioning blame, rather than learning to listen to yourself, and work with who you are.
Which is the goal, to not have to work with who you are because you are a wonder person, or get real and realise you will always be this slightly gittery individual, but with filtering, walking in the Spirit you can get there.
Some emphasis the goal, and some emphasis the current learning and adjustment. Both are true, so slagging each other off just brings sin into the situation, for real, so whatever people may claim about being perfect, there is still some work to go here, oh what a surprise.
When my mother asked me to lay the table for a family meal, I got so angry. I then thought, "Why am I getting angry? I have only been asked to lay the table."
Now life often gets in the way of good intentions, buried reactions or just mood swings can cause inappropriate behaviour.
The problem is then apportioning blame, rather than learning to listen to yourself, and work with who you are.
Which is the goal, to not have to work with who you are because you are a wonder person, or get real and realise you will always be this slightly gittery individual, but with filtering, walking in the Spirit you can get there.
Some emphasis the goal, and some emphasis the current learning and adjustment. Both are true, so slagging each other off just brings sin into the situation, for real, so whatever people may claim about being perfect, there is still some work to go here, oh what a surprise.