Ministering to homospirituals

[JesusIsAll]

I truth, every single thing you, or I, or anyone else, believes the Bible really says is strictly a matter of interpretation.

You could say the same of the "Rules of the Road." But there is one correct way of interpreting the color of lights and signs, if you don't want to have a wreck.

 

[Willie-T]

ive always been of the mind that if you can't explain something so everyone can understand your message...then you don't understand it yourself.

I feel this way about people flooding their post with Scripture.

That's fine, quoting Scripture. But don't leave it at that. (We all have our own Bibles, and really don't need you to bother).... TELL ME WHAT THAT VERSE MEANS TO YOU. And why you feel it might be pertinent.

 

[Rosesrock]

I truth, every single thing you, or I, or anyone else, believes the Bible really says is strictly a matter of interpretation.

I feel this way about people flooding their post with Scripture.

That's fine, quoting Scripture. But don't leave it at that. (We all have our own Bibles, and really don't need you to bother).... TELL ME WHAT THAT VERSE MEANS TO YOU. And why you feel it might be pertinent.

That's the thing, i don't interpret, i pray for wisdom and decernment to rightly divide.

Plus, if we leave out scripture there's no standard. I don't care about experience unless you give me verse with context, cause for all i know you're using the quran

 

[Reborn]

I truth, every single thing you, or I, or anyone else, believes the Bible really says is strictly a matter of interpretation.

But you can't deny that some people's interpretation of scripture doesn't deserve a facepalm from us,
............more like a bashing of our face into the side of a palm tree.

 

[Rosesrock]

But you can't deny that some people's interpretation of scripture doesn't deserve a facepalm from us,
............more like a bashing of our face into the side of a palm tree.

Gibb's slap??

 

[Chica]

Got to say as a logical proposition it does not hold water.
I design computer systems. They become very difficult to handle if you mix things that should work at different layers of concept, together. It does not mean the ideas are wrong, it just means they have not been separated out well enough.

Let me look at God and the bible. It is a very long book. Just the law is pages and pages long.
The building of the temple, the conflicts with different tribes, these have subtle variations and problems.
Take creation, two different stories with two different intentions and emphasis.

People have written books about just this, and the different implications involved. There are simple things you can draw, but that is just the surface, so it is not true complexity or depth shows error, it just shows complexity.

Take creation, two different stories with two different intentions and emphasis.

Where do you get there are two different creation stories?

 

[JesusIsAll]

That's the thing, i don't interpret, i pray for wisdom and decernment to rightly divide.

Plus, if we leave out scripture there's no standard. I don't care about experience unless you give me verse with context, cause for all i know you're using the quran

This is the problem with false doctrines: no context. The Bible doesn't contradict itself. When somebody makes one verse, or sometimes even one word, into a doctrine, which usually contradicts a lot of other verses, they have not understood the verse they base their doctrine on, have perverted the truth. Bible scripture must be viewed as a whole, which takes a lifetime of study, using sound Bible tools and trustworthy scholars, whose teaching is wholly supported by scripture truth.

 

[PeterJens]

A little question, how many people understand emotional intelligence?

One idea you could express this is with being happy with the skin you are in.
The problem is on both sides of the fence, faith can be a reason for running away from yourself or facing up to yourself.
The people who I have most problems with show all the signs of the running away option.

I think it is impossible to have a pure heart if you do not know what is actually in your heart to start with.

 

[Willie-T]

You know what's cool about Willie? He seems to be a bridge between folks with differing views. Sharing in a direct, straight forward manner with gentle understanding. I'd like to possess that gift but as for now I'm still turning over tables in the Temple against the Pharisees.

Huh? I'd like to possess that gift, too. I try not to type the "Dumb Jackass!" ranting that sometimes goes around and around in my head when I read some posts.

I remind people, and myself, that Jesus said to love, but..................... Well, let's just say, I don't always manage to hold that thought in my own life.

 

[JesusIsAll]

But you can't deny that some people's interpretation of scripture doesn't deserve a facepalm from us,
............more like a bashing of our face into the side of a palm tree.

Some things are very offensive to the Holiness, the majesty, the trustworthy truth and power of God, and a denigration of the blood of Jesus Christ. Much of what goes on here is spiritually obscene, literally doctrines of demons, lies, legalisms that deny gospel truth.

John 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

 

[Reborn]

Gibb's slap??

Lol.

I think l've seen the GIFs. I'm assuming that's a reference to one of those NSCISVDU: Victims Unit, shows?

I'm gonna say......sadly, yes, sometimes.

 

[JesusIsAll]

Gibb's slap??

Had to look that up, but there you go!

 

[Chica]

What's really sad is that joel Osteen can pack out an arena like it's the super bowl and NOT give the true gospel. Sad sad. What an opportunity. Just like these folks, they present their side with such a zeal, what if that zeal was correct, wow

Joel Osteen is an I'm OK, you're OK preacher. I've listened to him a couple of times and neither time did he preach the gospel. They interviewed a Jewish couple once at his church and they were simply swayed by Osteen. How long do you think they would have stayed if he was preaching Jesus on a regular basis? He's just like Robert Schuller a talking head and psycho babble. You right that many self help books and people are gonna floooock to you because you make them feel good. Feed the carnal and people will love you!

 

[Willie-T]

But you can't deny that some people's interpretation of scripture doesn't deserve a facepalm from us,
............more like a bashing of our face into the side of a palm tree.

According to us........

 

[PeterJens]

Some things are very offensive to the Holiness, the majesty, the trustworthy truth and power of God, and a denigration of the blood of Jesus Christ. Much of what goes on here is spiritually obscene, literally doctrines of demons, lies, legalisms that deny gospel truth.

Jesus faced the pharisees every day, and talked with them, while teaching the realities of walking with God. Are we not called to be doves, to be sheep, to be loving and understanding. Only when the light shines is the darkness understood for what it is, because it has gone.

 

[Willie-T]

There's an old saying that you cannot teach anyone, anything. All you can do is lead them to the threshold of their own understanding.

 

[Chica]

We are supposed to judge others by their fruits. I don't think this is the condemnatory type of judgement but just the see things as they are kind of judgement.

What are some of the fruits of those around here who claim perfection and an exclusive relationship with Jesus?

1) they stir up dissension and negativity.

2) they never look for the good in others or attempt see another's perspective. (This in itself is a direct and obviously disobedient attitude towards others. "Do nothing out of selfish ambition or vain conceit but in humility, consider others better than you consider yourself.")

Feel free to add more "fruit".

What are we if we don't stop this. What kind of message are we sending to people that come here who really have a desire learn the truth and see all the crap that some of these people post?

 

[Reborn]

According to us........

I know. I actually started my post by saying that....but it ruined my punchline.

At the end of the day, it really does come down to interpretation. Most should agree.
BTW, I've agreed with you on this before.....many times.

 

[Willie-T]

Where do you get there are two different creation stories?

Uh, from Genesis?

 

[Utah]

Huh? I'd like to possess that gift, too. I try not to type the "Dumb Jackass!" ranting that sometimes goes around and around in my head when I read some posts.

I remind people, and myself, that Jesus said to love, but..................... Well, let's just say, I don't always manage to hold that thought in my own life.

I don't know, Willie. You kind of have that Obi-Wan Kenobi smoothness going on sometimes.