Catholic Heresy (for the record)

KenAllan · Jun 11, 2015

"Hail Mary" is a prayer made up from verses ripped from the Scriptures mwc68. Saying this prayer is praying to Mary. By praying to Mary you are making Mary your Idol which is a sin. Therefore to continue praying the Rosary will keep you out of heaven.

I know exactly what the Rosary is mwc68. The Rosary was never used by any Disciples or Apostles in the 1st century Christian Church mwc68. The Rosary was invented by the Roman Catholic Church by an apparition of the Virgin Mary in the year 1214. Which is over a thousand AFTER Jesus Christ arose into Heaven. The Rosary is used to Worship Mary and what she did by her own powers to bring Salvation into the World through Her and Jesus Christ.

The Rosary is all about Mary and very little to do with Jesus Christ. Its all about Mary in the Roman Catholic Church. The Rosary has made Mary your God mwc68, even I can see it as well as everyone else on this site.

mwc68 · Jun 11, 2015

KenAllan said:

The very fact you are defending praying the Rosary which is praying to Mary mwc68 means even though you have received Salvation, by continuing to sin by praying to Mary, God cannot allow you into Heaven mwc68.

Once saved always saved is still true mwc68. BUT you cannot continue to sin all day long and expect God to still allow you into Heaven. One of the attributes of a person who has received Salvation is to stop sinning. How can you say you have received Salvation if nothing in you has changed and you keep on sinning willingly every day mwc68?

Romans 6:1-14
[SUP]1 [/SUP] What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin that grace may abound?
[SUP]2 [/SUP] Certainly not! How shall we who died to sin live any longer in it?
[SUP]3 [/SUP] Or do you not know that as many of us as were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into His death?
[SUP]4 [/SUP] Therefore we were buried with Him through baptism into death, that just as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.
[SUP]5 [/SUP] For if we have been united together in the likeness of His death, certainly we also shall be in the likeness of His resurrection,
[SUP]6 [/SUP] knowing this, that our old man was crucified with Him, that the body of sin might be done away with, that we should no longer be slaves of sin.
[SUP]7 [/SUP] For he who has died has been freed from sin.
[SUP]8 [/SUP] Now if we died with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with Him,
[SUP]9 [/SUP] knowing that Christ, having been raised from the dead, dies no more. Death no longer has dominion over Him.
[SUP]10 [/SUP] For the death that He died, He died to sin once for all; but the life that He lives, He lives to God.
[SUP]11 [/SUP] Likewise you also, reckon yourselves to be dead indeed to sin, but alive to God in Christ Jesus our Lord.
[SUP]12 [/SUP] Therefore do not let sin reign in your mortal body, that you should obey it in its lusts.
[SUP]13 [/SUP] And do not present your members as instruments of unrighteousness to sin, but present yourselves to God as being alive from the dead, and your members as instruments of righteousness to God.
[SUP]14 [/SUP] For sin shall not have dominion over you, for you are not under law but under grace.

We are not to keep on sinning just because we can sin. We are to stop sinning and walk in the Light with Jesus Christ. You cannot keep on praying the Rosary mwc68. Praying the Rosary makes Mary your God which is a sin and if you continue in it refusing to listen to the Truth mwc68 even though you have Salvation God cannot allow you into Heaven with this sin on you.

Sir, don't pretend you know me or my walk or how far I have come. I have tried not to judge you people yet you judge me all the time . Have you ever considered that your flavor of Christianity has holes all in it including. OSAS, which contradicts your above statement ?

mwc68 · Jun 11, 2015

KenAllan said:

Just as I said before, you have no idea about the Rosary exept what you have been spoonfed by the haters. The Rosary has little to do with Mary. Another thing, are you worried about what the mob here thinks? Is that why you help pile on the Catholic guy with your lies?

FancyNancy · Jun 11, 2015

mwc68 said:

God wants to bless you more, but when you adhere to man-made traditions, that hinders your faith. Jesus says it actually nullifies it. So, while you may feel blessed, you don't have a clue about what God has in store for you, but by your adherence to catholic teachings and traditions, you are being held back from receiving it. You, nor ANYONE should be complacent and satisfied with the status quo.

KenAllan · Jun 11, 2015

The very fact you refuse to accept the Truths in the Scriptures mwc68 proves you have very little respect for God and His Truths.

Its not our interpretation mwc68 its what the Holy Spirit says. Just because the Roman Catholic Church hates what the Holy Spirit teaches does not mean the Interpretation from the Holy Spirit is fairy tales.

What you do not realize mwc68 is if you continue on the road you are on with the Roman Catholic Church you cannot enter into Heaven because God cannot allow sinners to enter into Heaven.

Yes a person still can sin even with Salvation mwc68. If you see nothing wrong with your sins then you will never stop sinning. If you never stop sinning you cannot inherit the Kingdom of God mwc68.

Like i said before mwc68, you are in charge of where you will end up after you die. Do you really want to spend Eternity in the Lake of Fire with Satan and the Mary of the Roman Catholic Church? Or would you rather spend Eternity sitting next to Jesus Christ with a Crown of God in Heaven mwc68?

FancyNancy · Jun 11, 2015

mwc68 said:

It's very typical of catholics or anyone caught up in a religion to deny things that others are telling them because they are not told the entire truth.

The rosary centers on Mary. Including the "luminous mysteries" invented by Pope John Paul II, the Rosary consists of nearly 270 prayers recited by rote, with over 200 of them addressed to Mary!

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KenAllan · Jun 11, 2015

I do know exactly what the Rosary is mwc68. Its you who needs to open your eyes up and really see what the Roman Catholic Church is teaching you.

mwc68 · Jun 11, 2015

KenAllan said:

"Hail Mary" is a prayer made up from verses ripped from the Scriptures mwc68. Saying this prayer is praying to Mary. By praying to Mary you are making Mary your Idol which is a sin. Therefore to continue praying the Rosary will keep you out of heaven.

I know exactly what the Rosary is mwc68. The Rosary was never used by any Disciples or Apostles in the 1st century Christian Church mwc68. The Rosary was invented by the Roman Catholic Church by an apparition of the Virgin Mary in the year 1214. Which is over a thousand AFTER Jesus Christ arose into Heaven. The Rosary is used to Worship Mary and what she did by her own powers to bring Salvation into the World through Her and Jesus Christ.

The Rosary is all about Mary and very little to do with Jesus Christ. Its all about Mary in the Roman Catholic Church. The Rosary has made Mary your God mwc68, even I can see it as well as everyone else on this site.

Are you denying we should pray the scriptures? Do you just make it up as you go only adhering to verses you like and forget the rest? Afterall, that's how you came up with Osas

KenAllan · Jun 11, 2015

Again mwc68 we have caught you in a nest of lies. Saying the Rosary has very little to do with Mary is a lie mwc68.

There are 10 Hail Marys said in the Rosary mwc68.

So yes the Rosary is all about Mary mwc68.

Why do you lie and try to deceive God mwc68?

KenAllan · Jun 11, 2015

The "Hail Mary" is not in the Scriptures mwc68. It is made up of Words taken out of the Scriptures. No where in the Scriptures will you find the "Hail Mary" in its entirety mwc68.

Show me where in its entirety is the Hail Mary in the Scriptures mwc68?

KenAllan · Jun 11, 2015

The very fact that the Hail Mary is not in the Scriptures proves this prayer came from the Roman Catholic Church and is not from God mwc68.

kennethcadwell · Jun 11, 2015

mwc68 said:

Problem is that the Lord Jesus never said to pray that way in hailing Mary, this is how the Lord said to pray;

Our Father who art in heaven, hallowed be thy name. Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread, and forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive those who trespass against us, and lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil.
For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever and ever.
Amen.

Jackson123 · Jun 11, 2015

DesiredHaven said:

Then it become all about words and the definitions of the words of worship

One of the words for worshipin Hebrew is shachah # 7812 and the other in Aramaic cĕgid # 5457 both are used interchangebly even in respects to what not to do with images. Examples of this are found in Exodus 32:8 where shachah is used and in Dan 3:10 where cĕgid is used

The word Paul uses in respects to the bowing of the knee to the image of Baal and includes in its definition "religious veneration" in Rom 11:4 its the word kamptō # 2578 Outside of Rom 11:4 is used in respects to an image of Baal and in truth used 3 other times as belonging only to God as is shown in Rom 14:11, Ephes 3:14 and Phil 2:10.

NT the Greek words for worship, one is proskyneō # 4352 an example of which is shown in Rev 22:8 in respects to a man falling down before an angel and also aman falling down before the apostle Peter in Acts 10:35-36 It is also used in respects to figures they made in Acts 7:43. In the verse before it is used interchangably with the word latreuō # 3000 (Acts 7:42) is the same word used in respects to serving the creature" more then the Creator (unto which He gave them up to) in Rom 1:25 . Also in Acts 7:42 another word for worship which is sebazomai # 4573 is used (which means to to fear, be afraid, honour religiously, or to worship) even the host of heaven in that example. That which they gave up to the host of heaven and the creature ( which also belongs to God only) as Jesus himself confirms in Mat 4:10

And yet another word for worship is found in respects to visible devotions which Paul tells them to repent of as is shown in Acts 17:23. Whereas here is the word eusebeō # 2151 which means to dutifully regard (which they were actually doing) but only in respect to visible devotions. The word is used twice and shown (in the truth) as belonging to family in respects to showing piety at home an example of which is shown in 1Ti 5:4 So its a displaced form of regarding one thing (such as in "visible devotions" but falsely so) over and against the other (where such a regard should truly be placed). The last one I found is called "will worship" or ethelothrēskia # 1479 and I only see that used once in Col 2:23 in a negative sense.

KenAllan · Jun 11, 2015

God never told us to pray the "Hail Mary" mwc68. Its the Roman Catholic Church that is forcing you to pray the "Hail Mary" mwc68, not God and not us.

I can judge you as to are you a True Christian or are you a "Wolf in sheep Clothing" mwc68. You mwc68 are not a True Christian because you keep on rejecting what the Holy Spirit says for the Teachings of the Roman Catholic Church.

You keep belittling what the Holy Spirit says in the Scriptures in favor of what the Roman Catholic Church teaches.

Until you realize its God that is in control and not the Roman Catholic Church you mwc68 will never be able to break free from the bondage that the Roman Catholic Church has put on you. You have been put in chains by the Roman Catholic Church.

mwc68 · Jun 11, 2015

KenAllan said:

The very fact you refuse to accept the Truths in the Scriptures mwc68 proves you have very little respect for God and His Truths.

Its not our interpretation mwc68 its what the Holy Spirit says. Just because the Roman Catholic Church hates what the Holy Spirit teaches does not mean the Interpretation from the Holy Spirit is fairy tales.

What you do not realize mwc68 is if you continue on the road you are on with the Roman Catholic Church you cannot enter into Heaven because God cannot allow sinners to enter into Heaven.

Yes a person still can sin even with Salvation mwc68. If you see nothing wrong with your sins then you will never stop sinning. If you never stop sinning you cannot inherit the Kingdom of God mwc68.

Like i said before mwc68, you are in charge of where you will end up after you die. Do you really want to spend Eternity in the Lake of Fire with Satan and the Mary of the Roman Catholic Church? Or would you rather spend Eternity sitting next to Jesus Christ with a Crown of God in Heaven mwc68?

Yes, i have a big problem with my sin! I hate it! What you are suggesting as sin, is not

KenAllan · Jun 11, 2015

And what you are teaching mwc68 is not from the Holy Spirit. Its from the Roman Catholic Church.

You are not the one who decides if what you do is a sin or not mwc68. Its the Holy Spirit who says it not you and not the Roman Catholic Church mwc68.

Unfortunately mwc68 you are very arrogant in your Pride and refuse to listen to God. Judas was like you mwc68. He was very arrogant in his belief that Jesus Christ was not God. Look at what happened to him.

We are to humble ourselves before God, not before Mary and the Roman Catholic Church mwc68. Since I have shown you the Truth in the Scriptures you cannot stand before God and claim you never had been told the Truth.

You still have not shown us where in the Bible is the prayer "Hail Mary" in its entirety mwc68. That's because its not in the Scriptures mwc68. It was made up by the Roman Catholic Church to deceive you into following their Mary.

mwc68 · Jun 11, 2015

FancyNancy said:

Addressed to Mary for intercession. We believe in intercession of the saints. You don't. Ok! The 20 mysteries meditated on, are the life and ministry of Jesus Christ, except for two which are about Mary. Ya'll are confusing intercession with prayer. Rev speaks of the saints offering prayers on our behalf.

mwc68 · Jun 11, 2015

kennethcadwell said:

Problem is that the Lord Jesus never said to pray that way in hailing Mary, this is how the Lord said to pray;

Our Father who art in heaven, hallowed be thy name. Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread, and forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive those who trespass against us, and lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil.
For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever and ever.
Amen.

We believe in intercession of the saints and you don't.

MikeHenderson · Jun 11, 2015

You are a joke mwc68!

Trying to convince us you are a True Christian!

I know for a fact you have never received Salvation nor will you ever receive Salvation!

All you do is spout teachings straight from Satan himself!

Mary is dead and in the grave mwc68. She cannot hear our prayers nor can she intercede for us!

Intercession was made up by the Corrupted Popes in the Roman Catholic church. The Rosary is ALL about Mary and ALL about Worshiping Mary as your God mwc68.

You can fool the other like KenAllen but you cannot fool me or God mwc68. We can see you for who you really are, a disciple of Satan trying to scatter the flock of God.

Get thee behind me mwc68!

mwc68 · Jun 11, 2015

KenAllan said:

Of course the Hail Mary is not in the bible! The first half is! Is every prayer you offer in the bible? Mine aren't, lots of my friends and families names aren't in the bible and some situations me and the Lord have dicussed are not in the bible

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