Young Earth Creation. Does it matter what you believe?

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Tankman131

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valiant said:
Yes thats where we would expect your true science to be LOL in museums.
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I haven't heard any good arguments to explain the different radioactive isotope decay aging techniques of fossils, but the "lets take a 3x5 piece of skull and say it is the missing link" is definitely psuedo if not plain false science.
 
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Sirk said:
Are you saying irreducible complexity is lacking or macroevolution is lacking? Are you a microevolutionist? I'm not being a smart alec.....I'm seeking info.
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Macro evolution is lacking. Philosophically, it fails to account for the fossil record, the appearance of design in creation, the origin of life, as well as the fact Darwin basically prefaced his argument "im right unless you can 100% prove me wrong."
 
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JackH said:
They got raked over the coals by judges who said they distorted evidence and misrepresented science.
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This is serious folk. US judges, who we all know are deeply versed in all scientific matters, (far more than mere US scientists), have without any bias or presuppositions (????) dismissed people far more expert than they, and have done it from their own high state of legal knowledge. Its the end of the line. Jail for anyone who disagrees from now on.
 
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JackH said:
Were you there?

That's a favorite question of you YEC propagandists and Ken Ham in particular.

Were you there for the global flood?
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No, but the Son was there and He said ...

Matthew 19:4 (KJV) And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female,

This makes an old earth theory inexplainable...let me see, ' God evolved them from the beginning' ...do your Hebrew twisting on that.
 
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Tankman131 said:
Are you trying to say christians who are scientists like myself are npt really christians? Because you have a long road to hoe to prove that one.
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You call yourself a scientist and can't handle basic logic? No wonder science is in such bad shape.
How do you get from what I said to 'Scientists' aren't real Christians'???
 
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Sirk

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Tankman131 said:
Macro evolution is lacking. Philosophically, it fails to account for the fossil record, the appearance of design in creation, the origin of life, as well as the fact Darwin basically prefaced his argument "im right unless you can 100% prove me wrong."
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And here I thought that he said something along the lines that if he is just wrong on one point he is all wrong.
 
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Tankman131 said:
Macro evolution is lacking. Philosophically, it fails to account for the fossil record, the appearance of design in creation, the origin of life, as well as the fact Darwin basically prefaced his argument "im right unless you can 100% prove me wrong."
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Originally Posted by Sirk

Are you saying irreducible complexity is lacking or macroevolution is lacking? Are you a microevolutionist? I'm not being a smart alec.....I'm seeking info.
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irreducible complexity ?????

You ever heard of it tankman?
 
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Tankman131 said:
lol you are a funny guy. I will admit, even if you are older than me, i dont respect you.

That is due to the inane stupidity of what you say though.
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Another brilliant comment from a 'scientist'. We're in trouble.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Joshua_Generation said:
Jeremiah 4 is not about earth! It is about Israel.

Fossils do not take millions/billions of years to form.

When Mount St. Helens erupted back in 80, and scientists were finally allowed entry, they found millions of new fossils.

They were made instantly due to the destruction and flood waters. Several layers of sediment were formed instantly at Mount St Helens. That is one of the single greatest evidences for the fossil record modern day science states takes billions of years to create.

I think CHristians miss the fact about the great flood, that it was a cataclysmic event. The fountains of the deep broke apart.

Ask yourself this: If what the Bible says about the Flood were true, what would we expect to see?

Fossil records in different layers of sediments? Yes.
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They also found petrified wood. A mini grand canyon etc etc.

Something modern science would claim is impossible
 
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eternally-gratefull

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mwc68 said:
To say the earth is only 6,000 yrs old is to deny reality. I question everything these people say
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Thats ok. your a catholic. you deny the word of God. so what you say does not suprise me anymore. Now would anything you say be something I would give a second thought to.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Tankman131 said:
I haven't heard any good arguments to explain the different radioactive isotope decay aging techniques of fossils, but the "lets take a 3x5 piece of skull and say it is the missing link" is definitely psuedo if not plain false science.
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You know there are more than one isotope in those records do you not?

Carbon 14 is the one everyone wants to speak of. but what about the other particles. what do they say?
 
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popeye

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valiant said:
This is serious folk. US judges, who we all know are deeply versed in all scientific matters, (far more than mere US scientists), have without any bias or presuppositions (????) dismissed people far more expert than they, and have done it from their own high state of legal knowledge. Its the end of the line. Jail for anyone who disagrees from now on.
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Wow,just think,a world ruled by judges and "scientists"

Can't wait.

We get a sneak preveiw on the news with isis.( different doors leading into the same house)
 
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Sirk said:
Okay...just wondering. Then you surely understand irreducible complexity.
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Obviously popeye and Dr. Michael Behe do not understand irreducible complexity, and I doubt you do either.
 
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Tankman131

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Sirk said:
And here I thought that he said something along the lines that if he is just wrong on one point he is all wrong.
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No lol he said something along the lines of "unless it can be proven that lifeforms cannot create new forms through successive random mutations then my theory is sound."

in other words, prove him wrong 100% or he is right.
 
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Tankman131

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No wonder us christians are seen as anti-science. With such magnificent anti-scientific rhetoric as seen in this thread it would be hard not to see christians as antiscience.
 
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JackH

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popeye said:
Wow,just think,a world ruled by judges and "scientists"

Can't wait.

We get a sneak preveiw on the news with isis.( different doors leading into the same house)
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You must still be upset that Judge Jones and the cross-examination demolished your pet expert witness on irreducible complexity, Dr. Michael Behe, in Kitzmiller v. Dover.
 
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Tankman131 said:
Another person not worth my respect.
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Fine, you lost my respect as a supposed scientist when you made a high school blunder in simple logic, and then couldn't explain yourself.
 
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Tankman131 said:
No wonder us christians are seen as anti-science. With such magnificent anti-scientific rhetoric as seen in this thread it would be hard not to see christians as antiscience.
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Again what passes for science today is just agenda science...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Christian_thinkers_in_science

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Overall, Christians have won a total of 78.3% of all the Nobel Prizes in Peace,[SUP][7][/SUP] 72.5% in Chemistry, 65.3% in Physics,[SUP][7][/SUP] 62% in Medicine,[SUP][7][/SUP] 54% in Economics[SUP][7][/SUP] and 49.5% of all Literature awards.[SUP][7][/SUP]
 
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