illuminati?

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RachelBibleStudent

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no...focus on christ and don't waste your time on distracting and misleading fables...
 
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RachelBibleStudent

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jaybird88

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there is no group calling themself illuminati its just a name given to them by others. there is a group of elite people with an agenda to control and dominate everything and their goal is not for the greater good. its foolish to believe that such a small circle of people control so much wealth,power and influence would not share knowledge to gain an advantage.
dont make your decision on what people tell you here, look around the world with your own eyes and make your own decision.
 
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jaybird88

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i posted this in another thread but here is is again: if you want something you can see touch and taste, go to the capital building in DC and look up at the mural in the rotunda. no angels, no biblical scenes but lots of pagan gods, zues, appollo and all the rest with G washington sitting on a throne in the middle as one of the gods.the painting is called Apotheosis of Washington.
im sure a history teacher will tell her grade school kids on a field trip the painting symbolizes washington going to heaven like a good Christian, but whats with the greek/roman gods? also those that ask are mislead to believe apotheosis means ascending but thats not what the word means at all when used in the context of something spiritual, like this painting, it means to rise up and become a god. why paint something like that in the capital, why call it that title, and what is the message they are trying to send? this is just one of many many elephants in the room that are out there.

i have nothing against Washington, he had nothing to do with the painting.
 
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Elysian

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People used to ask the same thing about the Mafia.
 
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no...focus on christ and don't waste your time on distracting and misleading fables...
It troubles me that you are so quick to dismiss this claim. Of course we should focus on Christ, but anybody who does this should realize that He who hated Christ, hates us. Ignoring problems doesn't make them go away. While you have been picking and choosing which parts of the Bible are more relevant to your life and spiritual journey, real people with real agendas to systematically decrease the population and strip you of your rights, have been hard at work. These are documented facts. Not only are they doing it but they are bragging and laughing about it. Either you are truly oblivious that your government has been taken over by Nazi, luciferian occultists or you are blowing smoke. I've researched enough to know you better wake up and start looking around. Just like Hitler used false flag attacks, propaganda, and a secret elite group of conspirators to gain control of Germany, the same is going on all over the world through the UN and the Bilderbergs. Even if you want to be left in the dark about such things, please don't weigh in on such topics, because your knowledge on these matters is negligent. If on the other hand, this is in fact a conspiracy to merely rewrite history and documents, splicing video and audio segments to make it look like there is indeed an Illuminati. As well, if they faked interviews of eye witness accounts of people exiting this group or infiltrators and manufactured the entire history of the Knights Templars, Jesuits, Nazi occultism, the associations they evolved into and the symbols and beliefs they hold predating Egypt, then indeed I owe you an apology.....and them a koodos! Wow, you got me, is my face red.
 

Reborn

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You can buy Illuminati merchandise.


Not very secretive or "real" to me.
 
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There are always powerful people, but as the mighty rise they also fall.
There are conspiracies and people hold meetings to agree ways to deal with things.
Take the UN, Nato and other organisational blocks. The exist and they fail and succeed to varying degrees.

The core idea about Jews ruling the world, and a group who have secretly pulled the strings to everything is simply a lie.
Problems in society appear, and usefull pressure groups always are needed to help sort things out.
If you have no groups you end up with Somalia, Democratic Republic of the Congo, Zimbawe, Afghanistan all failed states to a greater or lesser extent.

Groups like ISIS on the left and the right like conspiracies because it gives them an enemy to hate, though ethical and emotional ideas do pose a real risk and cost lives, but they are often not organised, but used as propoganda to fuel war and conflict.

So you must be wary of anyone who claims there is a successful conspiracy, because other than the obvious simple ones, they all fail.
 
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Elysian

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The merchandise is deliberate,they are externalizing it now to the masses.
 
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The Illuminati was a secret society that was destroyed in the 18th century by France, Belgium, and the Holy Roman Empire (yes it still existed even then), with aid of the Netherlands. They had vowed to destroy the Vatican in an attack similar to the failed Gunpowder Incident in England. They failed because they sought to enlist the Free Masons, who tipped off their governments out of fear of being viewed as conspirators should it come to pass, causing an Inquisition. Instead, the members of the Illuminati, totally no more than 50 people, were arrested, many of whom were hung for treason, since they also sought to depose their own governments too.

The Illuminati was a militant atheist group that ceased to exist in the 1700s. It does not exist anymore. If there are those out there claiming to be the Illuminati, they have stolen a name.
 
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Elysian

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If you have any doubts about the Illuminati or shadow governments google the youtube video ''John F.Kennedy warns us of a shadow government'' .
Oh incidentally, I heard Three or Four weeks after this speech he was shot dead in Dallas.
 
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jaybird88

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If you have any doubts about the Illuminati or shadow governments google the youtube video ''John F.Kennedy warns us of a shadow government'' .
Oh incidentally, I heard Three or Four weeks after this speech he was shot dead in Dallas.
you beat me to it lol. i was going to make that comment about JFK. JFK thought these guys were very real as well as a big threat, but what would he know lol. and yes he was shot very soon after talking about them in a speech. just a coincidence and nothing to worry about im sure.
 
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Elysian

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This speech has been kept very quiet,almost hidden and describes some things that are happening today,a very disturbing speech.
 
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jaybird88

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This speech has been kept very quiet,almost hidden and describes some things that are happening today,a very disturbing speech.
people back then were much more aware then most are today as we have lost our free press. most people dont even realize that.
 
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Elysian

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Who told you they were Atheist?The Illuminati were Gnostic's,they believed in hidden supernatural knowledge and it has been said they existed through the Knights Templar.The Illuminati believes in another Gospel a gospel where Lucifer is the God of man and rightful creator of this world,Christ his brother and GOD a trouble maker.Basically this ''gospel'' is just Satan's same and tired old obsession with reversal.
 
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jaybird88

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Who told you they were Atheist?The Illuminati were Gnostic's,they believed in hidden supernatural knowledge and it has been said they existed through the Knights Templar.The Illuminati believes in another Gospel a gospel where Lucifer is the God of man and rightful creator of this world,Christ his brother and GOD a trouble maker.Basically this ''gospel'' is just Satan's same and tired old obsession with reversal.
i think they follow the old Canaanite/Babylonia belief system. i have read much about molech and sumerimus being involved in their belief system which is tied in to the Canaanite/Babylonia belief system.
 
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Elysian

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Whether the name ''Illuminati'' still exists today is irreverent.The fact is their teachings and agendas still exist today and can be found in Mormonism,Freemasonry,Church of Satan(or Church of 'Set' as they like to call themselves today.) Illuminati teachings are in Scientology,Christian science, and all new age twinkieism,there are also occultic blood lines.
Satan has a brilliant plan to destroy creation but he cannot utilize this plan without his supernatural and human minions.
Remember,today is the age of deception.
 
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Elysian

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Yes that is also correct,the Babylonian belief system is pure Satanism,basically Illuminati/elite Masonry follow anything that is of their god Satan. One of the largest obstacles that has been put in the way of understanding Satanism is Hollywood's take on it,sure it's accurate but it's only one facet of it.