POLL: The Deity of Christ
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The Son is also God. You are in denial of Jesus Christ. Even the devil and his demons know who Jesus is! Jesus, the Son and God defers to the Father, and that doesn't detract from Himself being God incarnate!
1 Timothy 3:16
And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness:Godwas manifested in the flesh,
Justified in the Spirit,
Seen by angels,
Preached among the Gentiles,
Believed on in the world,
Received up in glory.
Don't allow the mystery of God to confound you, as Satan is trying to do to you. Choose to believe in Jesus as God come in the flesh for YOU!
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1 Timothy 3:16
And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness:Godwas manifested in the flesh,
Justified in the Spirit,
Seen by angels,
Preached among the Gentiles,
Believed on in the world,
Received up in glory.
Don't allow the mystery of God to confound you, as Satan is trying to do to you. Choose to believe in Jesus as God come in the flesh for YOU!
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Jesus stated only the father is the one true God. If you would really like to learn i advise the following: Ex23:20-23, ex 24:9-11, 1cor 10:4 psalms 110:1, john 1:11 Luke 1:43 john 20:28, john 17:3, john 6:46, 1john 4:12 in that order. Please appreciate David, Thomas and Elizabeth were all Israelites
". . .and the Word was God. . .The Word became flesh. . ." (Jn 1:1, 13)
in the man Jesus of Nazareth, God the Son, the second of three divine persons in the one true God.
Your setting the Scriptures (Jn 1:1, 13)
against themselves (Ex 23:20-23, 24:9-11; Ps 110:1, Jn 1:11, 6:46 17:3, 20:28;
Lk 1:43; 1Co 10:4; 1Jn 4:12)
is ipso facto proof that you do not understand them, for God does not contradict himself in his word.
All of the Scriptures above are in perfect agreement.
in the man Jesus of Nazareth, God the Son, the second of three divine persons in the one true God.
Your setting the Scriptures (Jn 1:1, 13)
against themselves (Ex 23:20-23, 24:9-11; Ps 110:1, Jn 1:11, 6:46 17:3, 20:28;
Lk 1:43; 1Co 10:4; 1Jn 4:12)
is ipso facto proof that you do not understand them, for God does not contradict himself in his word.
All of the Scriptures above are in perfect agreement.
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K
Col.1:15-- The Son is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation.16 For in him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things have been created through him and for him. 17 He is before all things, and in him all things hold together. 18 And he is the head of the body, the church; he is the beginning and the firstborn from among the dead, so that in everything he might have the supremacy. 19 For God was pleased to have all his fullness dwell in him, 20 and through him to reconcile to himself all things, whether things on earth or things in heaven, by making peace through his blood, shed on the cross.
Who said this?! Paul!!
John 8:56--Your father Abraham rejoiced at the thought of seeing my day; he saw it and was glad.”57 “You are not yet fifty years old,” they said to him, “and you have seen Abraham!”
58 “Very truly I tell you,” Jesus answered, “before Abraham was born, I am!”
John 14:6---If you really know me, you will know[a] my Father as well. From now on, you do know him and have seen him.”
8 Philip said, “Lord, show us the Father and that will be enough for us.”
9 Jesus answered: “Don’t you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, ‘Show us the Father’?
John 11:25--Jesus said to her, “I am the resurrection and the life. The one who believes in me will live, even though they die
John 10:30--"The Father and I are one."
Once again the people picked up stones to kill him.
Jesus said, "At my Father's direction I have done many good works. For which one are you going to stone me?"
They replied, "We're stoning you not for any good work, but for blasphemy! You, a mere man, claim to be God. Jesus own words!!
This is why I say you are not a Christian Micheal 56.You are denying Jesus OWN words!!
Who said this?! Paul!!
John 8:56--Your father Abraham rejoiced at the thought of seeing my day; he saw it and was glad.”57 “You are not yet fifty years old,” they said to him, “and you have seen Abraham!”
58 “Very truly I tell you,” Jesus answered, “before Abraham was born, I am!”
John 14:6---If you really know me, you will know[a] my Father as well. From now on, you do know him and have seen him.”
8 Philip said, “Lord, show us the Father and that will be enough for us.”
9 Jesus answered: “Don’t you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, ‘Show us the Father’?
John 11:25--Jesus said to her, “I am the resurrection and the life. The one who believes in me will live, even though they die
John 10:30--"The Father and I are one."
Once again the people picked up stones to kill him.
Jesus said, "At my Father's direction I have done many good works. For which one are you going to stone me?"
They replied, "We're stoning you not for any good work, but for blasphemy! You, a mere man, claim to be God. Jesus own words!!
This is why I say you are not a Christian Micheal 56.You are denying Jesus OWN words!!
Let say those parchements were written (hipotetically) this way: "And the word was WITH God... and the word became flesh" and the RCC or several other men manipulated what was in the originals (as I also could be viewed and felt as manipularting what you already believed).
Jesus Himself acknowledged ONE God, along with their togetherness or oneness:
Joh 5:44 How can ye believe, who receive glory one of another, and the glory that cometh from the only God ye seek not?
Joh 5:45 Think not that I will accuse you to the Father: there is one that accuseth you, even Moses, on whom ye have set your hope.
Joh 5:44 How could you possibly believe? You like to have your friends praise you, and you don't care about praise that the only God can give!
Joh 5:45 Don't think that I will be the one to accuse you to the Father. You have put your hope in Moses, yet he is the very one who will accuse you.
In several other places He (Jesus) said He wasn´t seeking His glory, but the father´s glory (because He is His Son):
Joh 8:50 I don't want honor for myself. But there is one who wants me to be honored, and he is also the one who judges.
He came dow to do His Father´s will (not His, neither as His Son, nor as as divine, either):
When He knew His time has come, He publicly prayed to receive the honor, the glory (THE PLACE) He previously had with the Father, in heavens:
Joh 17:5 Now, Father, give me back the glory that I had with you before the world was created.
God, as GOD, previously existed "before the world was created". (If Jesus meant COSMOS, I´m absolutely wrong). And I doubt God can do without with His glory (read it as honor). Otherwise, Adam and Eve would have been forgiven inmediately after disobeying God´s command ONLY once (and that´s why the Lord Jesus came down to help us).
Jesus showed He was under another person´s will... How do you think GOD will walk and think doing another person´s will: He is God! That´s why He sent the angels who sinned far away from Him, as He did with Adam and Eve, then those were in the Paradise.
Well!
I have nothing to say or to prove: You believed what you believe.
Excuse me (and sorry)
bye! bye!
Jesus Himself acknowledged ONE God, along with their togetherness or oneness:
Joh 5:44 How can ye believe, who receive glory one of another, and the glory that cometh from the only God ye seek not?
Joh 5:45 Think not that I will accuse you to the Father: there is one that accuseth you, even Moses, on whom ye have set your hope.
Joh 5:44 How could you possibly believe? You like to have your friends praise you, and you don't care about praise that the only God can give!
Joh 5:45 Don't think that I will be the one to accuse you to the Father. You have put your hope in Moses, yet he is the very one who will accuse you.
In several other places He (Jesus) said He wasn´t seeking His glory, but the father´s glory (because He is His Son):
Joh 8:50 I don't want honor for myself. But there is one who wants me to be honored, and he is also the one who judges.
He came dow to do His Father´s will (not His, neither as His Son, nor as as divine, either):
When He knew His time has come, He publicly prayed to receive the honor, the glory (THE PLACE) He previously had with the Father, in heavens:
Joh 17:5 Now, Father, give me back the glory that I had with you before the world was created.
God, as GOD, previously existed "before the world was created". (If Jesus meant COSMOS, I´m absolutely wrong). And I doubt God can do without with His glory (read it as honor). Otherwise, Adam and Eve would have been forgiven inmediately after disobeying God´s command ONLY once (and that´s why the Lord Jesus came down to help us).
Jesus showed He was under another person´s will... How do you think GOD will walk and think doing another person´s will: He is God! That´s why He sent the angels who sinned far away from Him, as He did with Adam and Eve, then those were in the Paradise.
Well!
I have nothing to say or to prove: You believed what you believe.
Excuse me (and sorry)
bye! bye!
lol
K
No he didnt have Scripture to back it up.He was twisting verses to say what he wanted them to say. Its not fair to speak against the administrators for banning him. CC is a Christian site and believing Jesus was God is a fundamental doctrine of the church,and an early one. This isnt a make up your own religion site,its a Christian site.
K
People disagree on here all the time and dont get banned. Im not sure their reasoning but Id figure it also has something to do with attitude. I disagree on here lots of times and never been banned.
Rule #2 on CC...We like to welcome all to Christian Chat, but if anyone is not here for fellowship (or for wanting to know about Christianity), but simply for disrupting fellowship, offending people, whatever, then that person is not welcome.
I think that would be the reason though someone may correct me.
