Catholic Heresy (for the record)

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1 Thessalonians 4:13-17
[SUP]13 [/SUP] But I do not want you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning those who have fallen asleep, lest you sorrow as others who have no hope.
[SUP]14 [/SUP] For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so God will bring with Him those who sleep in Jesus.
[SUP]15 [/SUP] For this we say to you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord will by no means precede those who are asleep.
[SUP]16 [/SUP] For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first.
[SUP]17 [/SUP] Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And thus we shall always be with the Lord.

Clearly here the Holy Spirit say we will be "be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air".

JackH have you ever opened up a Bible and read it? Every time you open up your mouth you stick your foot in it.

God does say when He comes again He will catch us up into the clouds with Him.

Why do you hate God so much JackH? Why do you hate what God said in the Scriptures JackH?
Oh your a rapture guy? No wonder you don't make sense
 
May 30, 2015
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You sometimes act as if the inquisition is still happening! I admit some terrible people have led the church in the past. The Church has survived and always will until the return of Our Lord.
Duh. Jesus leads His Church.
 
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Yes, when it comes to church doctine. The pope and the bishops make up the Magesterium, the teaching authority. Inquisition is not doctrine
Duh. Holy Spirit is our teaching authority.
 
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If the Holy Spirit is teaching you and every other protestant, as you claim, why such a wide variety of doctrines? And really you never answer my questions yet demand i answer yours. You have some nerve. By the way, Mary was born without sin (Immaculate Conception). We have never said she remained that way. That is what you keep saying we believe..To much assuming on your part! But, then it seems that's your thing. You make up something, tell the thread that is what we believe, and then you sentence us to hell. Hell has a special place for you!
Wide variety of doctrines? Why does the RCC have such a huge array of unbiblical doctrines and unholy traditions? Not much is biblically based, but man-made and religion driven.

Outside of your man-made religion, Christians the world over maintain unity in the most crucial biblical truths about the great love of God, who Jesus is, about the virgin birth, about his death, burial and resurrection, about the new life in Christ through faith, about the Triune God and the ministry of the Holy Spirit, not to mention that Jesus will return for His own.
 
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Then why do you attribute the leadership of your "church" to men? That's the problem, right there.
Because there needs to be organization. Paul wrote about this organization inhis letter to Timothy. If there is no organization, then we get the chaos of the protestants who can't seem to agree on anything
 
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Wide variety of doctrines? Why does the RCC have such a huge array of unbiblical doctrines and unholy traditions? Not much is biblically based, but man-made and religion driven.

Outside of your man-made religion, Christians the world over maintain unity in the most crucial biblical truths about the great love of God, who Jesus is, about the virgin birth, about his death, burial and resurrection, about the new life in Christ through faith, about the Triune God and the ministry of the Holy Spirit, not to mention that Jesus will return for His own.
I have to disagree with your summary of the faith as unbiblical. The Bible is a Catholic book of letters and epistles (including theOT)arranged in the current cannon of 73 books in 382AD. Why anyone would believe the Church teaches contrary to the bible is amazing and ignorant. Everytime I hear we are "unbiblical" it just means you have been taught propaganda and its always the same old thing. Look through this thread! All the protestants want to do is keep posting the propaganda bullet points and refuse to answer our questions. None of you have done any serious study because you keep getting doctrines wrong over and over again. Then when we refuse to hear your bogus translations, we get told we are going to hell. As far as man- -made religion, well, Jesus Christ himself instututed the Eucharist at the Last Supper which was the first Mass. So, i guess we are a man-made religion, made by the man Jesus Christ (Yeshua)
 
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..... Christians the world over maintain unity in the most crucial biblical truths about the great love of God,
who Jesus is,
about the virgin birth,
about his death, burial and resurrection,
about the new life in Christ through faith,
about the Triune God
and the ministry of the Holy Spirit,
not to mention that Jesus will return for His own.
Not too sure about that, Nancy.
I reckon I've seen some very diverse views on those very topics throughout the various threads right here on Christian Chat.
 
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Its amazing how the Catholics claim, mwc68, they do not teach contrary to what God says in the bible, but yet see's nothing wrong with teaching Mary was born without sin.

Romans 3:9
[SUP]9 [/SUP] For we have previously charged both Jews and Greeks that they are all under sin.

Romans 3:23
[SUP]23 [/SUP] for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God

Clearly God says Mary was born a sinner because ALL HAVE SINNED.

Its amazing how corrupted the Roman Catholics are into deceiving people into thinking they are following God when instead they are Worshiping Mary as their God.

The Roman Catholic Church does teach contrary to what God says in the Bible. Prove me wrong mwc68 by showing all of us where in the Scriptures God said Mary was born without sin! I dare you to show us where!

I know you cannot show us where in the Scriptures God says Mary was without sin because God HAS said ALL have sinned and ALL includes Mary!
 

valiant

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Because there needs to be organization. Paul wrote about this organization inhis letter to Timothy. If there is no organization, then we get the chaos of the protestants who can't seem to agree on anything
and the heresies of the Roman Catholics, and they still can't agree on anything either LOL

I've read Timothy hundreds of times. I still can't find his mention of popes and cardinals, or even diocesan bishops.
 
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The Bible is not a Catholic Book mwc68. The Roman Catholic Church was NOT around when the Old Testament was written! How dare you say your corrupted Church wrote the Old Testament!

This is another blatant lie taught by the Catholics to deceive people into following their God Mary.
 
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At least we True Christians have accepted Jesus Christ as our Lord and Savior! Can the Catholics who Worship Mary as their God say the same? NO!
 

valiant

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I have to disagree with your summary of the faith as unbiblical.
what a surprise.

The Bible is a Catholic book of letters and epistles (including theOT)arranged in the current cannon of 73 books in 382AD. W
That is simply untrue. There is no direct evidence that the council in 382 AD arranged any canon of books. The RC evidence is spurious.

The Bible was a book long before the Roman Catholic church came into existence. It was sufficiently recognised for Clement, Ignatius, Justin and Irenaeus to quote from it. And they did not obtain it from the Roman church which did not have a monarchical bishop until mid 2nd century.

"unbiblical" it just means you have been taught propaganda and its always the same old thing. L
No it means we look in the Bible and can't find most of your doctrines. And YOU can't show us them there either.

Look through this thread! All the protestants want to do is keep posting the propaganda bullet points and refuse to answer our questions.
LOL you never have any serious questions, and certainly no answers. You admit yourself that you 'don't know'. But we post plenty of evidence to show that you bow down to graven images



None of you have done any serious study because you keep getting doctrines wrong over and over again.
I know precisely what you believe, and it is gross heresy.

Then when we refuse to hear your bogus translations, we get told we are going to hell.
you have never heard that from me. It is not my place to judge. It is in God's hands what He does about gross heresy. I just wouldn't want to be in your shoes.

As far as man- -made religion, well, Jesus Christ himself instututed the Eucharist at the Last Supper which was the first Mass.
Rubbish. It was not a Mass. The Mass is the product of man made religion. Jesus gave us something far different. OPEN YOU EYES.

[/quote]So, i guess we are a man-made religion, made by the man Jesus Christ (Yeshua)[/QUOTE]

you are a man made religion made by a whole succession of mass murderers. You lost what Jesus Christ brought a long time ago
 

Jackson123

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Yes, when it comes to church doctine. The pope and the bishops make up the Magesterium, the teaching authority. Inquisition is not doctrine

Pope infallible in Moral and doctrine,

Sadistic inquisition is wrong and moral violation.
 
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Its amazing how corrupted the Roman Catholics are into deceiving people into thinking they are following God
when instead they are Worshiping Mary as their God.
Now Ken, I have no problem with some good ole Catholic-bashing. It's always good sport and they're pretty easy targets with their array of silly doctrines ...

BUT, we do our own credibility a disservice when we gild the lily by exaggerating.
They do not 'Worship Mary as their God'.
 
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Its a waste of time trying to bring the Gospel of Salvation to the Roman Catholics.

They have their Mary, they do not need God.

Just look at Pope John Paul II, he is the Patron Saint of the Pedophiles! Pope John Paul II saw nothing wrong with Catholic Priests molesting children! He did his best to encourage the Catholic Priests to molest children.

The Roman Catholic Church is corrupted from top to bottom and will never listen to or accept anything the Holy Spirit has to say. After all the Catholics believe their church is above God!

The Catholics just want to left alone to Worship and follow Mary as their God. They do not want the Truth from God. After all they believe their God Mary is greater than God because it was Mary that had the power to keep Jesus Christ without sin and God did not have the power to keep Jesus Christ without sin!