Young Earth Creation. Does it matter what you believe?
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Preach evolutionary peer-reviewed journals as truth in action, and if necessary use words. 
Wink, wink. Nudge, nudge. Say no more.
Wink, wink. Nudge, nudge. Say no more.
My story: Dinosaur fossils are more than 65 million years old.
That's quite a discrepancy.
Do you know why you have sand that is way older than 6,000 years old in your ears?
Although your hero Ken Ham said recently he is going to rock the world and prove he has a dinosaur fossil that is thousands of years old rather than millions.
Now why would he need to prove that and rock the world if it has already been proven?
Why, to promote his Ham's Ark and Creation Museum so he can sucker the gullible out of even more money.
Originally Posted by valiant
All ancient genealogies jumped generations. The number of ten generations from Adam to Noah, and Noah to Abraham must be seen as suspicious from a literal point of view. Lists of ten generations of kings were common in and around Abraham's time. And they ALL omitted generations.
Furthermore the ages given are clearly not literal. Notice how many end in 0 or 5. Had they been literal that would not have been so. The truth is that to the ancients the numbers probably had some deeper significance.
It is not without interest to note that Adam died 70 (the number of divine perfection) short of 1000 (the perfect age).
That as in many ancient genealogies the seventh was a 'heavenly man' and his age equates to the number of days in a year.
That Lamech, the father of Noah died at 777. (His parallel Cainite was also closely involved in sevens).
That Noah was 600 when the flood came and died at 950, both nice round numbers, while being 500 when he had his sons..
I realise this will be unacceptable to some 'modern' Americans (who all know what God meant without any question). But it does not give the impression of literal and exact numbers.
Furthermore the ages given are clearly not literal. Notice how many end in 0 or 5. Had they been literal that would not have been so. The truth is that to the ancients the numbers probably had some deeper significance.
It is not without interest to note that Adam died 70 (the number of divine perfection) short of 1000 (the perfect age).
That as in many ancient genealogies the seventh was a 'heavenly man' and his age equates to the number of days in a year.
That Lamech, the father of Noah died at 777. (His parallel Cainite was also closely involved in sevens).
That Noah was 600 when the flood came and died at 950, both nice round numbers, while being 500 when he had his sons..
I realise this will be unacceptable to some 'modern' Americans (who all know what God meant without any question). But it does not give the impression of literal and exact numbers.
Most of the Supreme Court justices are Christian. Except for the two who are Jewish.
No wait, you don't consider Catholics to be real Christians, according to the pathetic bashing of Catholics you YECs engage in on the Catholic Heresy thread.
You know all about Kitzmiller v. Dover, right?
YECs took a beat down in that one and the judge is a conservative Christian appointed by Bush.
No wait, you don't consider Catholics to be real Christians, according to the pathetic bashing of Catholics you YECs engage in on the Catholic Heresy thread.
You know all about Kitzmiller v. Dover, right?
YECs took a beat down in that one and the judge is a conservative Christian appointed by Bush.
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According to who's science?
A science that is flawed? Were you there 65 million years ago to witness decay and the autmosphere so you could readily make up a calculation based on what was known at that time?
No, your science is based on what Peter himself warned against.
2 Peter 3 - [SUP]3 [/SUP]knowing this first: that scoffers will come in the last days, walking according to their own lusts, [SUP]4 [/SUP]and saying, “Where is the promise of His coming? For since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of creation.” [SUP]5 [/SUP]For this they willfully forget: that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of water and in the water, [SUP]6 [/SUP]by which the world that then existed perished, being flooded with water.
I find it amazing that almost 2000 years ago. a prophet of God accurately prophesied what people would be claiming (all things are the same of which carbon dating and other forms of science heavily rely on, things happen today like they did when time began, and there was no flood) today..
God is amazing.
A science that is flawed? Were you there 65 million years ago to witness decay and the autmosphere so you could readily make up a calculation based on what was known at that time?
No, your science is based on what Peter himself warned against.
2 Peter 3 - [SUP]3 [/SUP]knowing this first: that scoffers will come in the last days, walking according to their own lusts, [SUP]4 [/SUP]and saying, “Where is the promise of His coming? For since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of creation.” [SUP]5 [/SUP]For this they willfully forget: that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of water and in the water, [SUP]6 [/SUP]by which the world that then existed perished, being flooded with water.
I find it amazing that almost 2000 years ago. a prophet of God accurately prophesied what people would be claiming (all things are the same of which carbon dating and other forms of science heavily rely on, things happen today like they did when time began, and there was no flood) today..
God is amazing.
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They arn't they are modern day pharisees.
Just because one claims to be following Christ does not make them an actual Christ follower.
again, I ask, why are you here? you think your going to enlighten us? Think again, Your foolish arrogance has been seen before, and you will not be the last one to try to force your worldy beliefs on Gods people.
Were you there?
A YECs favorite sentence.
Ken Ham's favorite sentence.
Were you there?
Were you there around 4,500 years ago for your global flood?
Whose science?
Well, you can go with the science you find at museums like the Smithsonian and Carnegie and the science that is in reputable peer-reviewed scientific journals.
Or you can go with the science that was found at Dr. Dino's (Kent Hovind) Dinosaur Adventure Land (before the government seized it when he went to prison) and in Ken Ham's comic books where dinosaurs coexist with humans.
A YECs favorite sentence.
Ken Ham's favorite sentence.
Were you there?
Were you there around 4,500 years ago for your global flood?
Whose science?
Well, you can go with the science you find at museums like the Smithsonian and Carnegie and the science that is in reputable peer-reviewed scientific journals.
Or you can go with the science that was found at Dr. Dino's (Kent Hovind) Dinosaur Adventure Land (before the government seized it when he went to prison) and in Ken Ham's comic books where dinosaurs coexist with humans.
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see how you totally ignored the scripture I posted. Your stuck on one person, and not even looking at anything anyone says, it is all this man you have a vendetta against.
consider yourself on ignore. You have nothing to add to any conversation. only your bias. I can't believe your even still here, and have not been banned.
I guess they can't ban everyone, so I must trust the, but take your vendetta elsewhere, it is not welcome here.
consider yourself on ignore. You have nothing to add to any conversation. only your bias. I can't believe your even still here, and have not been banned.
I guess they can't ban everyone, so I must trust the, but take your vendetta elsewhere, it is not welcome here.
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I don't know your heart, Jack. I don't know if you know Jesus, but He knows you and He loves you. Peer-reviewed journals don't dare mention His name. But He knows each scientist who does the research and publishes in those journals. He knows those people who hate Him and those who just don't know Him. Jesus knows each of those scientists by name and He loves them. And you, Jack. Jesus loves you.
Both YEC and OEC can be reduced to nothing and laid to waste with one simple question. What is time to an immortal?
Jesus is immortality, even the fountain of the waters of life. That is the belief and Jesus is also the proof. Praise to God because he is very good.
John 4:14
[SUP]14 [/SUP]But whosoever drinketh of the water that I shall give him shall never thirst; but the water that I shall give him shall be in him a well of water springing up into everlasting life.
Jesus is immortality, even the fountain of the waters of life. That is the belief and Jesus is also the proof. Praise to God because he is very good.
John 4:14
[SUP]14 [/SUP]But whosoever drinketh of the water that I shall give him shall never thirst; but the water that I shall give him shall be in him a well of water springing up into everlasting life.
No not because of what he believes, because of the way he just spams it over and over and over and over and over and throws out insults like he is superior to anyone that doesn't agree with his views, and also tries to put one member against another frequently (the worst thing in my opinion, trying to cause trouble within the body), from my view he is obviously trying to cause trouble plain and simple. It's his actions that are the reasoning behind the surprise he hasn't been banned, not his belief. There are many here, atheist, Catholics and others, that can be civil and don't present themselves as a deaf broken record, that will discuss things and not spam the heck out of many threads with the same thing over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over. See the difference?
Yes but that is man. Surely there would be seasons? therefore adam would of seen leafs dying, plants and flowers dying off?, no human beings could ever really know how long adam and eve walked or worked in paradise?. How do you explain spiders and their webs to capture flys to eat for food?, what would spiders eat in paradise?, is there really such a thing as a perpetual flower?, i'm aware of perennials but i'm thinking if adam and eve picked flowers surely after a short while those flowers would wither and die so they observed things dying?. Unless of course paradise is just one season forever but how boring would that be?, is it true that seasons evolved after sin then?, how does anyone really explain lots of obvious issues?.
I think i understand man's transgressions of God's law.
But could this not indicate that adam might have been aware of his own mortality?
I think i understand man's transgressions of God's law.
But could this not indicate that adam might have been aware of his own mortality?
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lol. Bunk? coming from you, thats a compliment.
No, I want him banned because he is on a mission to destroy someone (namely Mr Hovind) Everything he posts concerns him and other people like him.
There are many OEC's here who are eager to talk and discuss things, that guy is not.
He is like you. and blindly follows men, and not God. Sorry, the only bunk I see in here is your church, your started this stupid argiment as well as many other false truths, which is why the church is in such a shambles and divided today.
No, I want him banned because he is on a mission to destroy someone (namely Mr Hovind) Everything he posts concerns him and other people like him.
There are many OEC's here who are eager to talk and discuss things, that guy is not.
He is like you. and blindly follows men, and not God. Sorry, the only bunk I see in here is your church, your started this stupid argiment as well as many other false truths, which is why the church is in such a shambles and divided today.