U.S. MEETING TO DISCUSS NUCLEAR STRIKES AGAINST RUSSIA !!!

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You're right I suppose Popeye (must be the spinach).

But nothing like the scale of Iraq, Afghanistan or even Vietnam.
 
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anyway, sorry for detailing this post OP.

Getting back to the topic. I don't think Russia or USA wants to start WIII.

Both have good nuclear capabilities.
 
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SIRK: "Instead, he has gutted our armed forces and appears to be turning their focus inward."

The U.S. armed forces sorely need "gutting" !
Some 1,000 military bases all over the globe,
an armada of nuclear armed warships intimidating all and sundry,
all manner of spooks and spies manipulating foreign governments - both friend and foe.

To our shame, governments like Australia's bow to Yank pressure and permit these installations within our borders.
We currently have three or four here with a large increase mooted for Darwin and a very big one planned for Townsville.
Makes us a target for sure when China or someone else tires of American aggression.
Obama is in the process of turning our military 180 and using it on US citizens.
 
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SIRK: "Instead, he has gutted our armed forces and appears to be turning their focus inward."

The U.S. armed forces sorely need "gutting" !
Some 1,000 military bases all over the globe,
an armada of nuclear armed warships intimidating all and sundry,
all manner of spooks and spies manipulating foreign governments - both friend and foe.

To our shame, governments like Australia's bow to Yank pressure and permit these installations within our borders.
We currently have three or four here with a large increase mooted for Darwin and a very big one planned for Townsville.
Makes us a target for sure when China or someone else tires of American aggression.

Not sure why you think Australia is bowing down to the "Yanks".. when the history of Australia's world war is intertwined with the USA. The Australia needs USA to defend them and USA needs us to be back them and to have a base in the Southern Hemisphere.

Btw, China isn't in the business of starting wars with their business partners. To China, religion, culture, race doesn't mean much to them, what means a lot to them is business, what can you bring to the table.. what can you trade with them, what is profitable.
 
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Obama is in the process of turning our military 180 and using it on US citizens.
Of COURSE he is, Popeye !
Sounds like a great excuse for keeping all those guns.
They should be heaps of use against military-grade weaponry.

Do you make this stuff up on the run or soak it up from some looney right-wing website ?

How about just a teensy-weensy bit of evidence that Obama is in the process of using the military against U.S.citizens ?
 
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Not sure why you think Australia is bowing down to the "Yanks".. ....
How about some 30+ Yank facilities (or shared facilities) on our soil ?
Anti-Bases Campaign Coalition

Some of which, Australians are not even permitted to enter !

Can you imagine if the boot were on the other foot - if we wanted to build military installations in the Grand Ole USA and then told the Yanks they weren't allowed in ?
 
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How about some 30+ Yank facilities (or shared facilities) on our soil ?
Anti-Bases Campaign Coalition

Some of which, Australians are not even permitted to enter !

Can you imagine if the boot were on the other foot - if we wanted to build military installations in the Grand Ole USA and then told the Yanks they weren't allowed in ?
For Americans to invest military assets in Australia means there is trust. For Australians to allow this to happens, means there is trust. It's a join effort.

I understand where you are coming from with the whole, we aren't allowed in business but that's the decision both parties agreed on. i.e. politicians....

At the end of the day, it's politics. There must be some sort of agreement.

p.s. thanks for the link.
 
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Where do you get this baloney understanding from as they have always in the past had meetings and discussed about attacks and what kind of attacks to do before they carried them out.
Even when you're out on a limb that's breaking, you ask someone to hand you a saw? You really want me to answer this question, I will.

I think I've mentioned in enough times on this board that I'm ex-military for you to know that. The kind of meetings from which such decisions come are secret. Hell, Ken, we didn't even publish our schedules when we were wind-tunnel testing the Apache airframe, much less publish the first training flight schedules. You think they are going to openly discuss a potential nuclear strike on Russia??? I'm flabbergasted anyone can be so naivé.

Nuclear strategy is not openly discussed -- by any nation with nukes! It is simply incredible to me anyone would think the U.S. would hold a meeting, apparently with the media present, and talk about nuclear targets. And they most assuredly not going to openly provoke Russia by publicly discussing the possibility of attacking with nukes.

So stating that they will not let people know they are going to attack Russia before it is done is completely false.
Aware of our capability, absolutely. Aware of exact details -- when, where, what targets -- not even.

The public was well aware back in the cold war days that attacks were about to take place if a deal was not worked out.
Name one, Ken. Just one. And I will guarantee you I know of over a dozen times that the U.S. was at DefCon I that the public never knew about and probably never will, except by rumor and old vets like me talking when we shouldn't.

Before dessert storm ...
I was in Desert Storm, Ken. We didn't use nukes, and to the extent we are able to prove it, Iraq was not a nuclear power. Unlike a potential nuclear confrontation, the events leading up to a conventional war are well reported, like the invasion of Kuwait that led to Desert Storm. The events that trigger a nuclear event will transpire so rapidly, and in secret, that no one will know until it is already started.

They of course are not going to give all the details ...
Duh! No kidding. Just as you didn't know what units were going to attack what targets in Iraq, you will never know when a nuclear strike, if one is ever launched, is coming. The people of central Missouri and North Dakota will be the first to know. Their farms fields and prairies will suddenly sprout missile plumes as the rockets leave their launch bays.

Plus what all the news articles I showed quoted was that regular attacks as well as nuclear will be on the table, and you can pretty much bet even a standard attack on Russia will escalate quickly.
Mutually assured destruction, even with less than 1,000 warheads on each side, will prevent any stupidity from escalating to that level, even with a nutcase like Putin in office. Your "world news/prophecy site" is just as useless in reporting truth as it is in reporting "prophecy.

Russia has already for the past 3 years a number of times be threatened because their aircraft has threatened our air space to test our defenses for weaknesses...........
You don't understand international military gamesmanship, obviously, and you probably are not aware we are doing the exact same thing near Russian military ships and bases. But I know we are.

Why do you play such a thing off so easily when everybody knows that the tensions between the U.S. and Russia are at an all time high again.
I "play it off so easily" because the utter falsehoods from your "world news/prophecy site" -- information, by the way, which you have not linked, so we don't know what they say other than by your summary -- are too transparently naivé to be seen as anything but sheer uninformed speculation or actual lies. As I said, the linchpin that brings down your house of cards is the utter and absolute secrecy of nuclear strategy. For you to believe this is being openly and frankly discussed with a fifth-rate outfit like whatever "world news/prophecy site" you got your email from is just pathetic.
 
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anyway, sorry for detailing this post OP.

Getting back to the topic. I don't think Russia or USA wants to start WIII.

Both have good nuclear capabilities.

They may not but sanctions have not been working against Russia the last 3 years, so it is now escalating to this point.
They have already moved more troops over to Europe that not to many people realize, and just this morning the news reported moving tanks back over to Europe to set up the front lines.
 
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You sure you want to stick with that statement?

From your "breaking news" story:

C'mon, Ken. Really?

So what is your point as I was showing 2 separate news events of troops and tanks being moved to Europe.........

The news article I gave was about the troops;




By Brad Lendon, CNN
Updated 12:27 PM ET, Sat March 14, 2015


It says this was done in March of this year 2015 or where you trying to leave off the 2015 part since you did not underline it....

Then I mentioned how just this morning on CNN (June 16, 2015) that the U.S. is moving tanks back over to Europe to set up the front lines again.........
 
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So what is your point as I was showing 2 separate news events of troops and tanks being moved to Europe.........
So now you're going to deny you claimed a nearly three month old post was "reported today"? Do you honestly think what you've posted here as your excuse actually makes sense?

It doesn't. In fact, just about everything you say to justify your more bizarre statements is very similar to the excuses Rachel Dolezal is making for claiming to be black when she obviously is not.

Ken, you have a real mental problem. You acted hastily, got caught, and can't bring yourself to admit it. God help you, as I know I can't.
 
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Sorry to disagree but the Bushes were just as bad if not worse, and I guess some people forget that a lot of Christians had Reagan pegged as being the antichrist. They even had his name add up to 666, and polls that have come out recently compare the past 5 presidents at this time in their presidency. In it they talked to the American public for the comparison, and the poll shows at this point in their presidencies Obama carries a little better approval rating then both Bushes did.

Obama has not been that good of a president, but I would not place him as the worse as the Bushes rank just as high if not higher. For they are just as much responsible for the economic mess we are in as Obama is, because things were bad before he even took office thanks to Bush...........

I don't care for Hilary either but I would not vote for Jeb Bush either, only those who want to stay in a economic disaster would vote in another Bush..........

You would disagree if someone said the sky was blue......what a farce!
 
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So now you're going to deny you claimed a nearly three month old post was "reported today"? Do you honestly think what you've posted here as your excuse actually makes sense?

It doesn't. In fact, just about everything you say to justify your more bizarre statements is very similar to the excuses Rachel Dolezal is making for claiming to be black when she obviously is not.

Ken, you have a real mental problem. You acted hastily, got caught, and can't bring yourself to admit it. God help you, as I know I can't.
He gets nailed quite a bit and simply refuses to admit error and or heretical teaching......or his works for salvation theology!
 
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He gets nailed quite a bit and simply refuses to admit error and or heretical teaching......or his works for salvation theology!
I don't know how someone who claims to be a Christian can refuse to admit to being wrong, or outright lies about getting caught in a manipulation like the one I just nailed him on. But as I've tried to tell him regarding salvation, no one knows if someone else is saved or not. That's God's purview.

But as a "fruit inspector," when it smells rotten, we can say it smells rotten. Maybe the "fruit farmer" will do something about it then. That's the hope, anyway.
 
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So now you're going to deny you claimed a nearly three month old post was "reported today"? Do you honestly think what you've posted here as your excuse actually makes sense?

It doesn't. In fact, just about everything you say to justify your more bizarre statements is very similar to the excuses Rachel Dolezal is making for claiming to be black when she obviously is not.

Ken, you have a real mental problem. You acted hastily, got caught, and can't bring yourself to admit it. God help you, as I know I can't.

I never said a 3 month old post was reported today as the link had nothing to do with the fact of what CNN reported this morning. Nice try though.................

I once again showed a two part movement of military, the link shows how troops was moved there 3 months ago, and then CNN reported this morning that tanks are now being moved to set up the front lines.

I may have not made it clear in how I posted it, but I never claimed the link was what was reported this morning as you are claiming...............Are you just upset that I posted this before you ? :D
 
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You would disagree if someone said the sky was blue......what a farce!

Wrong that is what you do Dcon.....................


Bible > The one who endures to the end will be saved


Dcon > The one who is saved will endure to the end

You flipflop scripture and then call others false, that is a true farce and being a hypocrite !!!
 
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I don't know how someone who claims to be a Christian can refuse to admit to being wrong, or outright lies about getting caught in a manipulation like the one I just nailed him on. But as I've tried to tell him regarding salvation, no one knows if someone else is saved or not. That's God's purview.

But as a "fruit inspector," when it smells rotten, we can say it smells rotten. Maybe the "fruit farmer" will do something about it then. That's the hope, anyway.

Because I am not wrong on this issue, as you are just trying to twist things to make it sound that way..........

Once again my link of troops moved to Europe 3 months ago, and then CNN reporting this morning of tanks being now sent over there is a two part mobilization of troops. Sorry if it wasn't posted clearly that way, but I never said they are one and the same or claimed they were as you are stating.......................
 
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Wrong that is what you do Dcon.....................


Bible > The one who endures to the end will be saved


Dcon > The one who is saved will endure to the end

You flipflop scripture and then call others false, that is a true farce and being a hypocrite !!!
He is not talking about soul salvation dude......the context is the great tribulation and enduring it until the end and being ALIVE AND REMAINING...you take the cake man for sure......and you have no clue! Nor ability to admit error....your works for salvation blinds you to many truths and leads you down the path of error for sure...