Creflo Dollar's Jet

[just-me]

While this is not an statement of support for any of the ministers listed in the wiki article. In fairness and full disclosure lets see who "lied" to the government as you stated:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unite..._tax-exempt_status_of_religious_organizations

Interestingly enough Joyce Meyer and Kenneth Copeland were the only 2 that complied with the government fully and the government concluded they had done no wrong in their accounting.

Joyce and Dave Meyer have more character in their pinky fingers than some of you all will ever have in your whole body. I would read the link on Joyce and also what the IRS had to say about her and her own secular accounting firm.

This will be viewed as another "lame" reply. If the US Senate found no fault with Joyce, then who are you blowhards listening to?

Isn't it great that the US Senate is so righteous and supportive toward Christianity? That's why our nation is so esteemed throughout the world and recognized as a totally moral nation with no corruption at all.

 

[FancyNancy]

Sirkism:

Have you ever gone gopher hunting? I used to run backwards faster than I can run forwards. Ohh look...a monkey.

I see you still resort to tomfoolery rather than proper dialogue.

 

[JesusIsAll]

Isn't it great that the US Senate is so righteous and supportive toward Christianity? That's why our nation is so esteemed throughout the world and recognized as a totally moral nation with no corruption at all.

Was thinking the same thing, not the highest recommendation, like the pot calling the kettle white.

 

[JesusIsAll]

I see you still resort to tomfoolery rather than proper dialogue.

Poppycock.

 

[Chica]

So if they are so extra special "annointed" why do they misuse the Bible? Why do they misuse their funds and lie to the government about their net worth, and cover it under the guise of being a church? Why do they constantly beg for money to keep their ministries going, including needing a $65 million jet, money which could be used to help the poor, the needy, or fund real missionaries, who go into foreign lands to live, give their lives to the people and stay there to teach believers to follow Christ?

You would think this extra special "annointing" which is found NOWHERE in the Bible would at least make them ethical, and maybe have them study their Bible and learn the gospel of salvation from sins, not salvation to be blessed in this lifetime!

Just show me the verses that say anyone is given "extra" annointing. Or for that matter, that we receive the Holy Spirit sometime after we are saved. That is what the Baptism in the Holy Spirit is. A non-scriptural attempt to appease people who are not willing to walk the narrow way and follow Jesus Christ, but instead an experiential lie to keep people in bondage to the WoF liars and cheats. Feel good and God will bless you.

Not carry your cross to your death, if need be!

"Then Jesus told his disciples, “If anyone would come after me, let him deny himself and take up his cross and follow me." Matt 16:24

By the way, Nancy, I have yet to see you post a single Bible verse in any of your posts, which tells me you are going mostly by the false teachings of these WoF teachers, and not what you have learned in the Bible.

You rule girlfriend! I'm glad your my Sister in Christ!

 

[Chica]

Really excellent, Angela, a good read! This is something it's like pulling teeth to get out of these "God's special people," of whatever stripe, how they get something of the Holy Spirit orderly churches, throughout Christendom, some with highly gifted, Spirit-filled Bible teachers, do not get? Why aren't we all babbling and rolling in the aisles? The rest of Christendom spiritually defective? I suppose all the pastors out there, not living in conspicuous consumption, are also low on the Holy Spirit totem pole, then?

Not asking for rocket science, just to make common sense of it all, please, some proof how you're special? And why? Got a God who's a respecter of persons, do you? He likes your roofing material, so parks more Holy Spirit under your roof? More Bentleys in your garage? Or, perish the thought, that mansion or Bentley was purchased by soliciting money to your sanctified P.O. Box more like it, "sowing that seed" or, like an informercial, hawking your books and DVDs, in truth, taking a lot of money from even poor people you've made lying promises of blessings to? And to pay for your swimming pools?

On the count of three......I WANT MY STUFF!

 

[Chica]

I done heared that! Mercy, the thread from hell!

I noticed you stayed out of that mess, good for you!

 

[FancyNancy]

Poppycock.

You wouldn't say that if you took off your blinders.

 

[FancyNancy]

On the count of three......I WANT MY STUFF!

Yes, that's the very root of this rubbish of a thread. It boils down to the basic sin of envy that is behind critics of people who have monumental success in their God-given ministries.

 

[JesusIsAll]

On the count of three......I WANT MY STUFF!

Today lesson is entitled "Gimme Mo Stuff!" Would you open your Bibles to Malachi 3:10? Before the scripture reading, I would like to preface by saying they call me Creflo, but my real name is Storehouse...

 

[FancyNancy]

Today lesson is entitled "Gimme Mo Stuff!" Would you open your Bibles to Malachi 3:10. Before the scripture reading, I would like to preface by saying they call me Creflo, but my real name is Storehouse...

You simply prove your ignorance about how God blesses people He trusts to handle money. To those He finds completely trustworthy, He entrusts with more.

 

[Chica]

Yes, one must be brimming with curiosity why they must live so high, for sure. Now, from everything you see here, I thought twisted knickers (with a 'k', Shakespeare) were all the rage!

Nope, no twisted knickers on this thread. Well at least not from our bunch.

 

[JesusIsAll]

Yes, that's the very root of this rubbish of a thread. It boils down to the basic sin of envy that is behind critics of people who have monumental success in their God-given ministries.

So green with envy I can't stand it!

Matthew 16:26 For what is a man profited, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul? or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul?

Matthew 19:24 And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.

 

[Chica]

Oh no! Mercy on da' firin' range! Pass me dat helmet 'n 'noculars!

You don't need all that, a white flag will do.

 

[FancyNancy]

So green with envy I can't stand it!

Matthew 16:26 For what is a man profited, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul? or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul?

Matthew 19:24 And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.

Yes, so green you have become colour blind.

 

[JesusIsAll]

Nope, no twisted knickers on this thread. View attachment 121828 Well at least not from our bunch.

I've just been accused of having the twisted knickers of envy. I'm so impressed with stuff, have no honor or even dignity, either, so, send me those "love offerings" and,

GIMME MO STUFF!
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[FancyNancy]

I've just been accused of having the twisted knickers of envy. I'm so impressed with stuff, have no honor or even dignity, either, so, send me those "love offerings" and,

GIMME MO STUFF!
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So hot and bothered over what certain known servants of God do, but what do you do?

 

[JesusIsAll]

Yes, so green you have become colour blind.

I know'd it! I's jus' beside mahself, sufferin' torments: GIMME MO STUFF!​

 

[Chica]

If you knew the word, you'd know that they do not misuse it. You have no clue about your charges against them. The send more relief and money and much other types of help to extremely needy areas of the world than you obviously know about.

Until your life bears the same level of fruit that theirs does, then you need to button it. You will be judged harshly by God for your unkind criticisms of people who have been led to where they are by their obedience to God.



Your denial of God's word is as obvious as a flashing neon sign.



God tells us in His word to keep being filled with the Holy Spirit!

Ephesians 5:!8
Stop getting drunk with wine, which leads to wild living, but keep on being filled with the Spirit.

It's not a one-time for all time thing. You are being non-scriptural, here, denying God's word and defying His truth about His anointing, and His gifting and His equipping and His promoting of people of HIS CHOOSING. Who do you think you are? Do you have a strong ministry where people are saved and discipled and trained in righteousness?



I have the entire word of God behind me, thanks.

If you knew the word, you'd know that they do not misuse it. You have no clue about your charges against them. The send more relief and money and much other types of help to extremely needy areas of the world than you obviously know about.

When their making Billiions, what is a paltry Million dollars to their pocket books? I just read an article on Copeland and it said they sent a Million dollars to some relief thing. Gloria alone makes $400,000. annually and there is no telling how long she has been making that salary.

People have complained they want these scavengers ministries investigated because when they find out how they live they complain that they feel their money isn't being used for what they were told.

 

[JesusIsAll]

So hot and bothered over what certain known servants of God do, but what do you do?

All's I does each wakin' minute is boil liken ta' lobster 'o green envy, hollerin' et tha' Lord,

GIMME MO STUFF!​