Pride goes before destruction
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On the flip side of that, some passages especially from the prophets, should be taken spiritually - an allegory. If you can't read and recognize the genre of a passage then you walk away with the wrong idea and intent of the passage.
Consider Habakkuk 3:
6 He stood and measured the earth;
He looked and startled the nations.
And the everlasting mountains were scattered,
The perpetual hills bowed.
His ways are everlasting.
7 I saw the tents of Cushan in affliction;
The curtains of the land of Midian trembled.
This prayer and praise of Habakkuk comes after his 2 complaints to God and God answers to these complaints. The 2 complaints: 1. Israel's wickedness and what Habakkuk feels about it, the lack of Justice on God's part. 2. How dare God use a more wicked nation then Israel to judge Israel.
Habakkuk's prayer and praise is direct response from God's rebuke/answer about Habakkuk's issues. The prayer and praise is about God's own sovereign hand in dealing with the nations (what, when, how) regarding His justice. It's about Israel and the Babylonians and God's dealings with them. The reference to the mountains being scattered and the hills bowing is not to be taken literal. For these things did not literally happen, it is judgment language about God's sovereignty and His just punishment. Habakkuk understands the coming doom at the end of chapter 3, and praises the Lord for it.
Consider Habakkuk 3:
6 He stood and measured the earth;
He looked and startled the nations.
And the everlasting mountains were scattered,
The perpetual hills bowed.
His ways are everlasting.
7 I saw the tents of Cushan in affliction;
The curtains of the land of Midian trembled.
This prayer and praise of Habakkuk comes after his 2 complaints to God and God answers to these complaints. The 2 complaints: 1. Israel's wickedness and what Habakkuk feels about it, the lack of Justice on God's part. 2. How dare God use a more wicked nation then Israel to judge Israel.
Habakkuk's prayer and praise is direct response from God's rebuke/answer about Habakkuk's issues. The prayer and praise is about God's own sovereign hand in dealing with the nations (what, when, how) regarding His justice. It's about Israel and the Babylonians and God's dealings with them. The reference to the mountains being scattered and the hills bowing is not to be taken literal. For these things did not literally happen, it is judgment language about God's sovereignty and His just punishment. Habakkuk understands the coming doom at the end of chapter 3, and praises the Lord for it.
There are many who lead a 'moral' life who are not Christian (if Christians could ever agree on what a 'Christian' is).
Included in that "many" are Muslims, Buddhists, Mormons, Catholics and yes, even atheists (shock, horror).
It is a mistake to believe that morality only exists within a particular faith - or lack thereof.
Included in that "many" are Muslims, Buddhists, Mormons, Catholics and yes, even atheists (shock, horror).
It is a mistake to believe that morality only exists within a particular faith - or lack thereof.
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This is the post I am referrring to about Paul who calls one among them wicked, I believe Paul had the Holy Ghost and not Satan when he did so
I closed with the self denial deal since the man had his fathers wife and that was not something I would consider self denial as Jesus taught
Mark 8:34 And when he had called the people unto him with his disciples also, he said unto them, Whosoever will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me.
The man in that post was doing things that were even named among the gentiles having his fathers wife, and instead of being grieved about the mans sin they were proud, that was being pointed out to them
I closed with the self denial deal since the man had his fathers wife and that was not something I would consider self denial as Jesus taught
Mark 8:34 And when he had called the people unto him with his disciples also, he said unto them, Whosoever will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me.
The man in that post was doing things that were even named among the gentiles having his fathers wife, and instead of being grieved about the mans sin they were proud, that was being pointed out to them