Is Dr. Dino (Kent Hovind) a total joke?

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valiant

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You know, its ok if I don't know certain things like how God created all things in 6 days...whether those days was periods of time or whatever..it don't matter to me. Gods Word records the truth and I can seek the issues that bring light to His truth...I can study the history of the eastern mindset and the traditions that help me understand. I can study how the scriptures was preserved and try to understand the original languages ....but what remains is that God always tells the truth and we have an amazing record of that truth.
On that we can agree :)
 

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Who agrees with Dr. Dino (Kent Hovind)?

Names please.

And on what, specifically, do they agree with Dr. Dino about?

That the U.S. government was responsible for 9/11 and the Oklahoma City bombing?

I need to do a credibility check on these people.

I found the book.

Yes, it's full of good science, like dinosaur fossils are millions of years old.

I was right. A drunk Irish midget attributes the Loch Ness monster to Saint Columba.

So YECs can thank Catholics (you know, the ones they bash relentlessly on the Catholic Heresy thread) for proof that dinosaurs are around even today, like Dr. Dino has said.
LOL for a supposed scientist you don't get your facts right. Columba was a member of the Celtic church. He was not a Roman Catholic.
 
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LOL for a supposed scientist you don't get your facts right. Columba was a member of the Celtic church. He was not a Roman Catholic.
Hey, you're the expert on Catholics based upon the Catholic bashing you do.

How did Columba become a Catholic saint and get churches and such named after him?

I'll have to go get that book and quote directly, but Columba is credited for sending Nessie to the bottom of the lake.

You mean YECs don't pray to Saint Columba and thank him for proving dinosaurs are alive today?
 

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Originally Posted by DiscipleDave


If God wants to make a billion year old Earth in 7 days, i assure you He can do that, and i also assure you, that is exactly what He did, because His Word teaches that He did.
You mean that imperfect human beings make an assumptive interpretation of God's creative days?, how does anyone really know how long it took God to create the universe and earth?, surely one can only make an assumption?
True those who do not believe the Word of God can make assumptions, but for those who believe the Word of God, NO assumption is necessary, for the Word of God plainly teaches us how old the Earth basically is, which is either 6,000 years old, or 13,000 years old, no younger than 6,000 years old, and no older than 13,000 years old.

And concerning the age of the universe, the Bible does not say, and it is MUCH older than the Earth. The Universe is the Kingdom of Heaven. and it existed for an eternity before the Earth was ever created to test humans.

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Jack says:

1. Is Henry Morris considered to be the father of the modern YEC movement?
2. Did Henry Morris get much of his flood geology from George McCready Price?
3. Was George McCready Price's flood geology heavily influenced by Ellen G. White?



1. Yes, Henry M. Morris is considered to be the 'father' of the modern biblical creationist movement.
2. No, Henry M. Morris didn't get his flood geology from George McCready Price.
3. No. Ellen G. White was a false prophet who took teachings etc. and used them for her own agenda.

Do your homework Jacksie!
 

DiscipleDave

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Every time I hear the song "Ramblin' Man" I think of you.

Dr. Dino (Kent Hovind) is in prison after being convicted of numerous felonies that fall under the broad category of FRAUD.

That makes him a FRAUD.

A FRAUD is a FRAUD is a FRAUD.

Dr. Dino teaches FRAUD in his creation videos, in more ways than one.

Actually, eternally-grateful accusing me of "false slander" didn't upset me, it amused me.

"False slander" is a contraction of terms. First, it must be false for it to be slander. Truth is an absolute defense for a charge of slander. And slander is verbal defamation, as opposed to libel, which is written defamation.

You can read more about Dr. Dino's transgressions in the article "KENT HOVIND - A FRAUD AND A TAX REBEL" here:

Kent Hovind-- A fraud and a Tax Rebel

Note in particular statements in that article like this:

"Kent Hovind may well be a son of God, but he will soon be a son of God on an extended vacation at the courtesy of the tax payers he ripped off by refusing to participate in America. Let us NOT hear any rubbish about Kent being a martyr, for he is worthy of the penalty. He has mocked at the law, and he has exalted tax rebellion in his videos an creation. He has given the enemy cause to blaspheme, and I am only too pleased to see him get his comeuppance."

Get it?

Dr. Dino encouraged FRAUD in his creation videos.

Those who attempt to make Dr. Dino out to be some sort of martyr are pathetic.
Friend where is your LOVE? Where is the Love of Jesus in you? Where is your LOVE for Mr Hovind? Does Jesus LOVE Mr Hovind? But you do not, do you?

Also you call people pathetic, is that of God? Are you calling them that to somehow try to help them?

You say to me,
Every time I hear the song "Ramblin' Man" I think of you.
Was this said to HURT me? Was it said to try to anger me? Was it said to put me down? Was it said to belittle me? Did you say it to make fun of me because you think i ramble? i perceive that there is darkness in you, and not LOVE. And i tell you that in LOVE, in hopes that you will realize there is something amiss with you and how you treat people. So that you will learn to look to Jesus for help when you desire to lash out at people, or say things to hurt people. There is hope for you yet, is the good news. Jesus loves you, and commands all Christians every where to LOVE ONE ANOTHER. So i warn you, so you will STOP hating and hurting people with your words of darkness, to start Loving people, because ONLY those who LOVE ONE ANOTHER will be accepted into the Kingdom of Heaven. The Good news is, you can start today, look to Jesus who is LOVE, to help you LOVE others, because reading what you wrote above, you are in dire need of Jesus help, so you can start Loving One Another.

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DiscipleDave

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Dr. Hound?

Hey, I like that.

Give the Hound another 6,000-year-old (or less, since Dr. Hound says dinosaurs walk among us today) dinosaur bone.

What evidence do you have to support your statement that Dr. Dino aka Dr. Hound is an innocent man?
Funny, i asked you to show me evidence that Mr Hovind is guilty, all you keep saying is he is in prison for fraud, to which i replied, so what you are saying is all people in prison are Guilty and can't possibly be innocent. i have yet to see any evidence from you that he is indeed guilty, but now i see you asking people to show evidence which supports that he is an innocent man. Seems to me, If Mr Hovind and you were standing outside together, and there were stones lying around, well you do the math. ( nothing like an old fashion stoning huh? )

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DiscipleDave

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hovind is certainly not innocent...

kent hovind carried out his financial transactions in a way that was specifically designed to mislead the IRS...he used deception as a way to avoid paying the taxes he duly owed...

this is both illegal and contrary to the clear teaching of scripture on taxes...
He that is without sin cast the first stone.

Seems to me, this Mr Hovind was not a PERFECT Christian, and he did sin in his life, especially with his finances if what is being said is True about what he did. So Mr Hovind is a sinner. So Mr Hovind is an embarrassment to Christianity because he did not pay taxes and the other stuff he did. Tell me are all those who cheat on their taxes every year also an embarrassment to Christianity. We are quick to say Mr Hovind is because of his sin, but do you cheat on your taxes? Do you claim unemployment when it is not due to you? Do you cheat the Government in anything?
Are those who claim to be Christian and continually look at porn an embarrassment to Christianity? Those who lie, are they an embarrassment to Christianity? Those who call Jesus their Lord and Savior, yet knowingly and willingly choose to obey His enemy when they are tempted to sin, and do that which they know is sinful and against Jesus, yet do it any ways, are they too an embarrassment to Christianity?

Are we not instructed "Not to Judge" seems when it comes to Mr Hovind, a whole lot of judging is going on, is that of God or someone else? Who will Love and defend Mr Hovind, no matter how fraudulent he has been in his finances? Oh i know, Jesus Christ Loves Him, Jesus Christ died for people like him did He not? Woe to those who judge him thus, for the same way they judge that man, they themselves will be judged, because God is not a liar, and that is what He teaches. So go ahead and judge others, and pass your judgements upon them, and the same way you judged, you yourself will be judged.

Now concerning Mr Hovind, i am not his judge, i am not saying one way or another if he is evil or good. God will judge him on those matters, i am not his judge and neither are YOU. People watch how you judge people, because God does not lie, when you judge people, you will be judged in a like manner. Is Mr Hovind here to defend himself? to speak for himself? Therefore others will judge you as well, and you also will not be able to defend yourself or speak for yourself, others shall speak for you and judge you as you have Judged Mr Hovind.

LOVE ONE ANOTHER, Stop Judging others.

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well i for one am a -young earth creationist- and i -still- recognize that kent hovind is a criminal and a fraud and a false teacher...
You say he is a false teacher, based on what? What you believe to be the Truth? You judge him to be false based on what YOU think is the Truth.

Now if he taught something that was contrary to the Word of God, then it is the Word of God that judges him to be a false teacher, because he is teaching things that is contrary to the Word of God. Therefore if Mr Hovind is teaching false teachings (whether he is or is not, i know not) then SHOW the Scriptures which Proves he is teaching false things. But accusing someone of being a false teacher based solely on what you believe to be the Truth, how is that not judging falsely, based on what you believe is the Truth? Again, false teachers are they that teach things that are contrary to Scriptures, therefore if you are going to accuse anyone of false teaching, then show the Scriptures which show that what is being taught contradicts the Word of God.

i assure you many who THINK they know the Truth are quick to judge others to be false teachers, and they judge thus, NOT based on what Scriptures say and teach, but they judge thus because it is contrary to what they believe is the Truth.

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DiscipleDave

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Let me ask you a few questions:

1. Is Henry Morris considered to be the father of the modern YEC movement?

2. Did Henry Morris get much of his flood geology from George McCready Price?

3. Was George McCready Price's flood geology heavily influenced by Ellen G. White?
Let me ask you a question, did the Bible exist before Henry Morris? Did the Bible exist before George McCready Price? Did the Bible exist before Ellen White? The answer is YES, YES, and YES. The Bible told the story of the flood, these you have mentioned did not come up with the actual flood event. The flood event was told and taught thousands of years BEFORE any of those you mentioned were even born. You seem to be implying that they started the flood event story.

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Don't waste your breath, brother. Jacksie boy is an infamous false teacher at CC. I'm not sure why he wasn't banned long ago. He says he's a Christian, but he never talks about Jesus and he tries his darnest to disprove the Bible. Also, he insults everyone who doesn't believe as he does. It's rather disturbing.
 

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DDave, your last few posts really got it the heart of the matter. Beautifully written and I think exposed the motives of most of us here commenting. Edifying, thank you.

"Blessed are the peacemakers..."
 
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True those who do not believe the Word of God can make assumptions, but for those who believe the Word of God, NO assumption is necessary, for the Word of God plainly teaches us how old the Earth basically is, which is either 6,000 years old, or 13,000 years old, no younger than 6,000 years old, and no older than 13,000 years old.
You say the Word of God teaches how old the earth is.

Then you say it either 6,000 years old or 13,000 years old.

Well, which is it?

And how exactly do you come up with those numbers?
 

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Hey, you're the expert on Catholics based upon the Catholic bashing you do.
For a supposed scientist your mind is remarkably undiscerning. You clearly do not think for yourself. I have never bashed a Roman Catholic in my life. What I justifiably bash are the false doctrines of the Roman Catholic church.

How did Columba become a Catholic saint and get churches and such named after him?
The Roman Catholics are noted for taking people like Patrick and Columba and making them Roman Catholics prosthumously. They want to steal the credit of other churches. Possibly you should rad up some church history not written by Roman Catholics.

I'll have to go get that book and quote directly, but Columba is credited for sending Nessie to the bottom of the lake.
I wouldn't take much notice of it if I were you. But then as a Darwinist you will believe anything.

You mean YECs don't pray to Saint Columba and thank him for proving dinosaurs are alive today?
I have no idea what YECs do. Here in the UK we do not categorise people.
 

valiant

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He that is without sin cast the first stone.

Seems to me, this Mr Hovind was not a PERFECT Christian, and he did sin in his life, especially with his finances if what is being said is True about what he did. So Mr Hovind is a sinner. So Mr Hovind is an embarrassment to Christianity because he did not pay taxes and the other stuff he did. Tell me are all those who cheat on their taxes every year also an embarrassment to Christianity. We are quick to say Mr Hovind is because of his sin, but do you cheat on your taxes? Do you claim unemployment when it is not due to you? Do you cheat the Government in anything?
Are those who claim to be Christian and continually look at porn an embarrassment to Christianity? Those who lie, are they an embarrassment to Christianity? Those who call Jesus their Lord and Savior, yet knowingly and willingly choose to obey His enemy when they are tempted to sin, and do that which they know is sinful and against Jesus, yet do it any ways, are they too an embarrassment to Christianity?
The answer is YES in all cases. We are all at times an embarrassment to Christianity.. :)
 
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Funny, i asked you to show me evidence that Mr Hovind is guilty, all you keep saying is he is in prison for fraud, to which i replied, so what you are saying is all people in prison are Guilty and can't possibly be innocent. i have yet to see any evidence from you that he is indeed guilty, but now i see you asking people to show evidence which supports that he is an innocent man.
Innocent until proven guilty.

Dr. Dino was found guilty by a court of law.

He has been in prison for more than 8 years.

That is my evidence that he is guilty.

Now, if you think he is not guilty, show me your evidence that makes you think that he is not guilty.

If you think somebody else who is in prison, like Charles Manson, is not guilty then show me your evidence that makes you think that person is not guilty.

If you show me convincing evidence that such a person should not be in prison, I will probably believe you.

And that person should file an appeal and possibly be released from prison.
 
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You say he is a false teacher, based on what? What you believe to be the Truth? You judge him to be false based on what YOU think is the Truth.

Now if he taught something that was contrary to the Word of God, then it is the Word of God that judges him to be a false teacher, because he is teaching things that is contrary to the Word of God. Therefore if Mr Hovind is teaching false teachings (whether he is or is not, i know not) then SHOW the Scriptures which Proves he is teaching false things. But accusing someone of being a false teacher based solely on what you believe to be the Truth, how is that not judging falsely, based on what you believe is the Truth? Again, false teachers are they that teach things that are contrary to Scriptures, therefore if you are going to accuse anyone of false teaching, then show the Scriptures which show that what is being taught contradicts the Word of God.

i assure you many who THINK they know the Truth are quick to judge others to be false teachers, and they judge thus, NOT based on what Scriptures say and teach, but they judge thus because it is contrary to what they believe is the Truth.

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You could put a hibernating bear to sleep.

So let's talk about Dr. Dino's false teaching.

We'll take them one at a time, which should take us about a year.

Dr. Dino teaches KJV Onlyism.

Is that a false doctrine?
 
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For a supposed scientist your mind is remarkably undiscerning. You clearly do not think for yourself. I have never bashed a Roman Catholic in my life. What I justifiably bash are the false doctrines of the Roman Catholic church.

The Roman Catholics are noted for taking people like Patrick and Columba and making them Roman Catholics prosthumously. They want to steal the credit of other churches. Possibly you should rad up some church history not written by Roman Catholics.

I wouldn't take much notice of it if I were you. But then as a Darwinist you will believe anything.

I have no idea what YECs do. Here in the UK we do not categorise people.
Okay, so you bash Catholics on the Catholic Heresy thread for false doctrine of the Roman Catholic Church, according to you, that they regurgitate. You are talking to people over there right? Who are Catholics, right? And none of them are wearing a pointy hat, right?

Is Cobumba given credit for taking Christianity to Scotland or not?

If not him, who should be given the credit for that?

Is Columba given credit for banishing Nessie to the bottom of the lake or not?

If not him, then who?

Obviously Nessie still exists in that lake and is a dinosaur because some YECs say so.
 
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His supporters are the best. But, I do wonder if you can get a traffic infraction for parking in front of a federal prison?