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K
Yes I know and I don't have an issue with you either.
I was just responded to how you spoke on biblical truth being given, so I was agreeing but saying how it works both ways.
The bible says the time you believe you are all knowledgable is when you will be made to look foolish.
Ignoring does not need to be done out of difference of opinion, because some times you might be right and other times I might be right. That is why I said I only put others on ignore if their behavior is badly directed toward others....
L
What a wonderful loving thread. Once again Us against them attitude. Do you really think that some people are purposely trying to irritate you. You think you have all the answers but you sound just like the people you are putting on ignore. This I believe has been the most hateful forum I have ever been on. You people think you are the upper class of Christians and no one can join your social group unless they follow you like little puppies wagging their tails in happiness just to be near you.
I have tried to be polite and show love as much as possible like our Lord and Savior would want me to do. Sometimes saying enough is enough and people just need to grow up and quit acting like children. This goes for anyone that isn't in your social group as well.
I'm pretty sure maybe you have me on ignore but I really feel you people on this forum just like to argue to hear yourself argue (or see). It is disgusting and sickening and you aren't edifying anyone but yourselves. If each one of us can't see that each of us are doing the same thing to each other then we aren't humbling ourselves.
I really hope their aren't unbelievers here who are seeking the Lord and seeing this bickering amongst ourselves. I am a moderator of another forum and I can tell you we don't allow this type of behavior from either side.
I have been a member of pagan boards, atheist boards and I don't see this much hatred and bickering coming from them as I see here.
Why is it that Christians can't stand to be around each other on forums? I bet Satan is having a blast seeing us attack each other. We wouldn't treat non believers like this. I truly hope you don't witness to people the way you do here because no one is going to plant any seeds at all.
Like I said, this is for everyone on this forum, not just the ones who disagree with me. If we aren't on this forum to edify God then there really is no point at all being here. We are only edifying ourselves.
God Bless.
I began reading the forums again after the names of some of the tv and radio preachers and teachers I listen to regularly were posted in subject titles. I read things that were said about them that were just untrue and tried to clear up some of the mis information. Then I began to share what I knew about them, and my own belief about healing and the gifts for today. I was called a cultist.
The message here is clear, if you do not conform to the regular bullies here you will be judged a cultist or called other names. I have never been a follower of bullies nor have I wanted to be a part of their group., So I won't be spending much time on the forums either. It's too much to be attached by other believers, there are too many bullies who stand together against the few. To try and counter the tons of misinformation is just too time consuming.
I have tried to be polite and show love as much as possible like our Lord and Savior would want me to do. Sometimes saying enough is enough and people just need to grow up and quit acting like children. This goes for anyone that isn't in your social group as well.
I'm pretty sure maybe you have me on ignore but I really feel you people on this forum just like to argue to hear yourself argue (or see). It is disgusting and sickening and you aren't edifying anyone but yourselves. If each one of us can't see that each of us are doing the same thing to each other then we aren't humbling ourselves.
I really hope their aren't unbelievers here who are seeking the Lord and seeing this bickering amongst ourselves. I am a moderator of another forum and I can tell you we don't allow this type of behavior from either side.
I have been a member of pagan boards, atheist boards and I don't see this much hatred and bickering coming from them as I see here.
Why is it that Christians can't stand to be around each other on forums? I bet Satan is having a blast seeing us attack each other. We wouldn't treat non believers like this. I truly hope you don't witness to people the way you do here because no one is going to plant any seeds at all.
Like I said, this is for everyone on this forum, not just the ones who disagree with me. If we aren't on this forum to edify God then there really is no point at all being here. We are only edifying ourselves.
God Bless.
I began reading the forums again after the names of some of the tv and radio preachers and teachers I listen to regularly were posted in subject titles. I read things that were said about them that were just untrue and tried to clear up some of the mis information. Then I began to share what I knew about them, and my own belief about healing and the gifts for today. I was called a cultist.
The message here is clear, if you do not conform to the regular bullies here you will be judged a cultist or called other names. I have never been a follower of bullies nor have I wanted to be a part of their group., So I won't be spending much time on the forums either. It's too much to be attached by other believers, there are too many bullies who stand together against the few. To try and counter the tons of misinformation is just too time consuming.
K
Some cases yes it seems impossible, but in others I have seen an improvement in their attitudes.
To show love to others does not mean you always have to agree with what they say, and if I have a fellow brother or sister that believes the way I do treating another badly then I will call them out on such.
This standard is what others need to follow as for example;
Those of the OSAS system if you see a fellow OSASer treating others badly, call them out because they are giving your doctrine a bad name.
Those of the lose/forfeit salvation system if you see a fellow believer in this doctrine, do the same call them out because they are giving this doctrine a bad name.
Same goes for any other doctrines out there, as we are called to love all others no matter if they believe the same as us or not.
To show love to others does not mean you always have to agree with what they say, and if I have a fellow brother or sister that believes the way I do treating another badly then I will call them out on such.
This standard is what others need to follow as for example;
Those of the OSAS system if you see a fellow OSASer treating others badly, call them out because they are giving your doctrine a bad name.
Those of the lose/forfeit salvation system if you see a fellow believer in this doctrine, do the same call them out because they are giving this doctrine a bad name.
Same goes for any other doctrines out there, as we are called to love all others no matter if they believe the same as us or not.
R
Informed, you mean on the same spiritual level? God deals with everyone differently...what the Lord has done to grow me, isnt where someone else is, nor my job to shove that on them if they're not in the right mindset to have a discussion. Im not sure what you mean by informed, not everyone is going to know exactly what someone is saying....that's what a forum is for.....the responsibility is on the Christian how to act
What a wonderful loving thread. Once again Us against them attitude. Do you really think that some people are purposely trying to irritate you. You think you have all the answers but you sound just like the people you are putting on ignore. This I believe has been the most hateful forum I have ever been on. You people think you are the upper class of Christians and no one can join your social group unless they follow you like little puppies wagging their tails in happiness just to be near you.
I have tried to be polite and show love as much as possible like our Lord and Savior would want me to do. Sometimes saying enough is enough and people just need to grow up and quit acting like children. This goes for anyone that isn't in your social group as well.
I'm pretty sure maybe you have me on ignore but I really feel you people on this forum just like to argue to hear yourself argue (or see). It is disgusting and sickening and you aren't edifying anyone but yourselves. If each one of us can't see that each of us are doing the same thing to each other then we aren't humbling ourselves.
I really hope their aren't unbelievers here who are seeking the Lord and seeing this bickering amongst ourselves. I am a moderator of another forum and I can tell you we don't allow this type of behavior from either side.
I have been a member of pagan boards, atheist boards and I don't see this much hatred and bickering coming from them as I see here.
Why is it that Christians can't stand to be around each other on forums? I bet Satan is having a blast seeing us attack each other. We wouldn't treat non believers like this. I truly hope you don't witness to people the way you do here because no one is going to plant any seeds at all.
Like I said, this is for everyone on this forum, not just the ones who disagree with me. If we aren't on this forum to edify God then there really is no point at all being here. We are only edifying ourselves.
God Bless.
I began reading the forums again after the names of some of the tv and radio preachers and teachers I listen to regularly were posted in subject titles. I read things that were said about them that were just untrue and tried to clear up some of the mis information. Then I began to share what I knew about them, and my own belief about healing and the gifts for today. I was called a cultist.
The message here is clear, if you do not conform to the regular bullies here you will be judged a cultist or called other names. I have never been a follower of bullies nor have I wanted to be a part of their group., So I won't be spending much time on the forums either. It's too much to be attached by other believers, there are too many bullies who stand together against the few. To try and counter the tons of misinformation is just too time consuming.
I have tried to be polite and show love as much as possible like our Lord and Savior would want me to do. Sometimes saying enough is enough and people just need to grow up and quit acting like children. This goes for anyone that isn't in your social group as well.
I'm pretty sure maybe you have me on ignore but I really feel you people on this forum just like to argue to hear yourself argue (or see). It is disgusting and sickening and you aren't edifying anyone but yourselves. If each one of us can't see that each of us are doing the same thing to each other then we aren't humbling ourselves.
I really hope their aren't unbelievers here who are seeking the Lord and seeing this bickering amongst ourselves. I am a moderator of another forum and I can tell you we don't allow this type of behavior from either side.
I have been a member of pagan boards, atheist boards and I don't see this much hatred and bickering coming from them as I see here.
Why is it that Christians can't stand to be around each other on forums? I bet Satan is having a blast seeing us attack each other. We wouldn't treat non believers like this. I truly hope you don't witness to people the way you do here because no one is going to plant any seeds at all.
Like I said, this is for everyone on this forum, not just the ones who disagree with me. If we aren't on this forum to edify God then there really is no point at all being here. We are only edifying ourselves.
God Bless.
I began reading the forums again after the names of some of the tv and radio preachers and teachers I listen to regularly were posted in subject titles. I read things that were said about them that were just untrue and tried to clear up some of the mis information. Then I began to share what I knew about them, and my own belief about healing and the gifts for today. I was called a cultist.
The message here is clear, if you do not conform to the regular bullies here you will be judged a cultist or called other names. I have never been a follower of bullies nor have I wanted to be a part of their group., So I won't be spending much time on the forums either. It's too much to be attached by other believers, there are too many bullies who stand together against the few. To try and counter the tons of misinformation is just too time consuming.
Peace
K
Well I would agree with you a little bit here that if a person does not acknowledge their own faults/sins and behavior and fix it then they have no business telling others how to act.
However the bible does show the difference in a babe in Christ and a mature believer in Christ.
And the mature Christian is commanded to by love show and help the one still walking improperly to see how in God's word it says how we are to walk. Then we are to help them along to get to that maturity stage in the faith.
However the bible does show the difference in a babe in Christ and a mature believer in Christ.
And the mature Christian is commanded to by love show and help the one still walking improperly to see how in God's word it says how we are to walk. Then we are to help them along to get to that maturity stage in the faith.
S
A person has to first want help don't you think? It can be a delicate balance of discerning how much truth is applicable to help get someone on the journey. Too much at once and you can push them over the edge into despondency. Salt and Light in the proper proportion tailored to the individual is key.
K
Yes I know this which is why I constantly refer those who are acting badly in their behavior to read James epistle, and to read it 3 to 4 times in a row if needs be.
For his epistle is a convicting one as he does not hold back punches when he speaks, and one example of that is what I previously gave. That is when James says if one can not bridle their tongue their religion is worthless....
This however does not mean we are not to show them love, because we still are !!!
I am partial to the view of the OP and majority.
But I also see many things being called heresy that are legitimate debates.
When you buy into a theological system, regardless of what it is, you buy into a set of teachings; and all opposed teachings are considered heresy.
In past centuries, Catholicism was the one who generally cried "heresy!", But now, it is generally my own denomination: Baptists. (Lutherans are a close second).
My pet peeve is when people cry "heresy!" over eschatological views. It's pure divisive foolishness. You don't know the order of the future, because the Word has intentionally left it unclear. If you have a view, then it is assuredly based on a series of assumptions, not the Word, because the Word does not spell it out for us. Rant over. Set on ignore and continue.
But I also see many things being called heresy that are legitimate debates.
When you buy into a theological system, regardless of what it is, you buy into a set of teachings; and all opposed teachings are considered heresy.
In past centuries, Catholicism was the one who generally cried "heresy!", But now, it is generally my own denomination: Baptists. (Lutherans are a close second).
My pet peeve is when people cry "heresy!" over eschatological views. It's pure divisive foolishness. You don't know the order of the future, because the Word has intentionally left it unclear. If you have a view, then it is assuredly based on a series of assumptions, not the Word, because the Word does not spell it out for us. Rant over. Set on ignore and continue.
