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I don't have an answer but how do we balance ignoring the heretics and this...?
(For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds
Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ; (2Co 10:4-5)
(For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds
Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ; (2Co 10:4-5)
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Exactly. There's no fellowship with false prophets. It's like this concept some try to promote here, that Christianity is all divided. Well, the church is not really a message board, where any cult whackjob can create a pulpit and spew. It's as if it would be shocking to some, to learn there is mainstream Christianity where a large body of the orthodox agree on clear scripture truths, whereas here even the basic gospel is perverted any way some users can imagine, cults out the wazoo, posting false doctrines. We've lately reached into the absurd, that televangelist charlatans, con men and women, are expected to be accorded honor. The bottom line, we're not called to have fellowship with darkness: there's the Holy Spirit, and that other spirit, the fake one. I have no use for fake religion, whatsoever.
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God working in his elect.
The Philadelphian Phillies are awful this year. The Sixers were worse!
Oh, come on now! Let's not get into the "what is truth" debate. That's why I gave up on non Christian forums that talk about religion. No one could ever get around to talk about God because they kept going for the strawman of "What is truth" to avoid God. Not here too! If you need to define truth, try a dictionary.
(And not aimed at you, kedge, but more that old "What is truth" argument you carried.)
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God working in his elect.
The Philadelphian Phillies are awful this year. The Sixers were worse!
Oh, come on now! Let's not get into the "what is truth" debate. That's why I gave up on non Christian forums that talk about religion. No one could ever get around to talk about God because they kept going for the strawman of "What is truth" to avoid God. Not here too! If you need to define truth, try a dictionary.
(And not aimed at you, kedge, but more that old "What is truth" argument you carried.)
It's a full time job for me to live my own Christian life. I have always wondered why some people make it their life's work to follow other people's Christian walk with Jesus and appoint themselves mini holy spirits. There are tons of sites that only exist for the sole purpose to seek out and find others who disagree with what they say the Bible teaches.
They then "label" and "denounce" their sentence upon who they find and begin a smear campaign to spread their findings to all who follow their broad castings.
They make lists of people who may fit into their criteria of who's who in the heretic world and then find unity among themselves in the process. There is some kind of happiness in this type of unity for some.
Judging others is a very easy thing to do. As human beings we have a natural inclination to find fault with others. It's what we do! It's in our DNA. As born again Christians its our responsibility to look to Jesus and by the renewing of our minds learn not to judge people's hearts and to allow the Holy Spirit to do the convicting and the leading. It has been my observation that He needs no help in this job. He does it 100% well. Judging hearts is something God has not equipped us to do. If someone speaks in tongues and believes in miracles and you don't, it's not your place to denounce them as a liar and heretic. If someone uses the money God has blessed them with to begin a ministry and does things with the funds that you don't agree with, it's not your job to denounce them as a liar and heretic. Just because one person would not see the need to buy an item, does not mean the other person has no reason or right to buy it. It seems pretty simple to me.
Again, I heard this story about how a Christian started his ministry with the Lord. It began as a small and tiny seed planted. No one saw it go into the ground. No one was there when it was patiently tended and cared for year after year. The sacrifices made and the work of tilling and weeding. No one saw the tiny leaves sprouting up and how it was tenderly prayed for and nurtured. But when this small plant grew larger and larger and began to yeald lots of fruit and pour out a hundred fold from what it once was, everyone saw it then, it was no longer tiny - obscure and needy.
The tiny plant grew and began to yeald a hundred fold of what it once was and grew more and more as the Lord saw fit. And many were blessed and added to the number but many others also found fault with how the laborers were caring for the once obscure plant that was made to yeald it's fruit and shade for others. And they made it their job to tear it down and make it go away.
I can surely understand the unsaved world doing that to a Christian work since they are doing what the enemy wants, stop the Gospel from being broadcast around the world. But I do not understand how fellow Christians can do it and see nothing wrong with tearing down another believer's labors for the Lord. I believe this is of the many issues the Bible speaks about even the very elect will be deceived in the last days.
There are tons of sites that only exist for the sole purpose to seek out and find others who disagree with what they say the Bible teaches. They then "label" and "denounce" their sentence upon who they find and begin a smear campaign to spread their findings to all who follow their broad castings.
They make lists of people who may fit into their criteria of who's who in the heretic world and then find unity among themselves in the process. There is some kind of happiness in this type of unity for some.
Judging others is a very easy thing to do. As human beings we have a natural inclination to find fault with others. It's what we do! It's in our DNA. As born again Christians its our responsibility to look to Jesus and by the renewing of our minds learn not to judge people's hearts and to allow the Holy Spirit to do the convicting and the leading. It has been my observation that He needs no help in this job. He does it 100% well. Judging hearts is something God has not equipped us to do. If someone speaks in tongues and believes in miracles and you don't, it's not your place to denounce them as a liar and heretic. If someone uses the money God has blessed them with to begin a ministry and does things with the funds that you don't agree with, it's not your job to denounce them as a liar and heretic. Just because one person would not see the need to buy an item, does not mean the other person has no reason or right to buy it. It seems pretty simple to me.
Again, I heard this story about how a Christian started his ministry with the Lord. It began as a small and tiny seed planted. No one saw it go into the ground. No one was there when it was patiently tended and cared for year after year. The sacrifices made and the work of tilling and weeding. No one saw the tiny leaves sprouting up and how it was tenderly prayed for and nurtured. But when this small plant grew larger and larger and began to yeald lots of fruit and pour out a hundred fold from what it once was, everyone saw it then, it was no longer tiny - obscure and needy.
The tiny plant grew and began to yeald a hundred fold of what it once was and grew more and more as the Lord saw fit. And many were blessed and added to the number but many others also found fault with how the laborers were caring for the once obscure plant that was made to yeald it's fruit and shade for others. And they made it their job to tear it down and make it go away.
I can surely understand the unsaved world doing that to a Christian work since they are doing what the enemy wants, stop the Gospel from being broadcast around the world. But I do not understand how fellow Christians can do it and see nothing wrong with tearing down another believer's labors for the Lord. I believe this is of the many issues the Bible speaks about even the very elect will be deceived in the last days.
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I wouldn't know if the plan of action is being done by all, because I'm already doing the plan of action, so ignoring the posts I planned to ignore.
Have you been to any of those to know if those of us who did resolve to ignore have stuck to it still? Busy busy busy if you have. lol (And, given I'm infinitely nosy, if you have...honest? Have we avoided them? This feels like one of those moments I can have someone else peek in to something I'm trying to ignore and then let me know how it's going. lol)
On the good side, glad to see you decided to stick around. Done right, this is a good site. It's just difficult to figure out how to "done right."
Have you been to any of those to know if those of us who did resolve to ignore have stuck to it still? Busy busy busy if you have. lol (And, given I'm infinitely nosy, if you have...honest? Have we avoided them? This feels like one of those moments I can have someone else peek in to something I'm trying to ignore and then let me know how it's going. lol)
On the good side, glad to see you decided to stick around. Done right, this is a good site. It's just difficult to figure out how to "done right."
How can anyone talk about God's truth if there are divisions in Christianity of what God's truth is in the Bible?. The divisions are or what appears to be the interpretations of the Bible, can't all be the truth but if the subject is a stumbling block for you then i'll leave it at that but some might see it as a bit of a copout.
