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I don't know about all that. I got involved on that thread in a weird way. I went on Google and typed in conscience purged by Christ's blood or something like that and then I hit images because I was looking for an avatar to match my username and a picture of oldhermit who started the Speak your mind thread came up. I was like, what the ? When I went back to see if anybody had commented on what I posted there in regard to that, I started reading how a bunch of people are leaving.
Romans 5:1-5 (my favorite)
1.Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ: [SUP]2 [/SUP]By whom also we have access by faith into this grace wherein we stand, and rejoice in hope of the glory of God.
[SUP]3 [/SUP]And not only so, but we glory in tribulations also: knowing that tribulation worketh patience;
[SUP]4 [/SUP]And patience, experience; and experience, hope:
[SUP]5 [/SUP]And hope maketh not ashamed; because the love of God is shed abroad in our hearts by the Holy Ghost which is given unto us.
"If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you." (John 15:18)
"He that hateth me hateth my Father also. (John 15:23)
1.Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ: [SUP]2 [/SUP]By whom also we have access by faith into this grace wherein we stand, and rejoice in hope of the glory of God.
[SUP]3 [/SUP]And not only so, but we glory in tribulations also: knowing that tribulation worketh patience;
[SUP]4 [/SUP]And patience, experience; and experience, hope:
[SUP]5 [/SUP]And hope maketh not ashamed; because the love of God is shed abroad in our hearts by the Holy Ghost which is given unto us.
"If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you." (John 15:18)
"He that hateth me hateth my Father also. (John 15:23)
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I have the same concern, but I primarily check my own ability to hear first. I also think that the Holy Spirit gets drowned out to a degree by all of the fighting. Let's all meditate on this for a bit:
Ephesians chapter 4 verses 29 thru 32
Let no corrupt communication proceed out of your mouth, but that which is good to the use of edifying, that it may minister grace unto the hearers.
And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.
Let all bitterness, and wrath, and anger, and clamour, and evil speaking, be put away from you, with all malice:
And be ye kind one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God for Christ's sake hath forgiven you.
How much have we all grieved the Holy Spirit of God?
God help us.
Ephesians chapter 4 verses 29 thru 32
Let no corrupt communication proceed out of your mouth, but that which is good to the use of edifying, that it may minister grace unto the hearers.
And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.
Let all bitterness, and wrath, and anger, and clamour, and evil speaking, be put away from you, with all malice:
And be ye kind one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God for Christ's sake hath forgiven you.
How much have we all grieved the Holy Spirit of God?
God help us.
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I'm bushed.
I feel like a formerly wet rag which has been twisted until every last drop has been wrung out.
I honestly believe that some inroads were made here today, based upon both public and private comments which I have received, and I give all the glory, praise and honor to God for that.
When I logged on this morning, I never expected to be involved in all of the conversations that I've been involved in today. It's been as if I've been in the back seat of a car while somebody else was driving as I tried to figure out where we were headed. Maybe this sounds weird or melodramatic to you or something, but I just know that God is awesome and that's basically what I'm trying to say.
Good night to all of you. I need to get some rest.
I feel like a formerly wet rag which has been twisted until every last drop has been wrung out.
I honestly believe that some inroads were made here today, based upon both public and private comments which I have received, and I give all the glory, praise and honor to God for that.
When I logged on this morning, I never expected to be involved in all of the conversations that I've been involved in today. It's been as if I've been in the back seat of a car while somebody else was driving as I tried to figure out where we were headed. Maybe this sounds weird or melodramatic to you or something, but I just know that God is awesome and that's basically what I'm trying to say.
Good night to all of you. I need to get some rest.
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Warning: I take a bit to get to my point, but I hope it's worth the ride. lol
Today I watched yet another commercial promoting the homosexual agenda. I said, "If there is enough people speaking up will that huge corporation change the ad?
Hubby said, "The vast majority of Americans agree with it, so they won't do anything."
My response, (after E-yahing the intelligence level of the vast majority of Americans), "20% is enough to change a marketing strategy."
Another large corporation (Google) changed their commercial promoting the homosexual agenda. Something had to happen that they made that decision plan. That, and I remember the boycott on grapes in the US in the 60's, so absolutely know mass boycotts work. (If you don't know the grape boycott, you probably know Cesar Chevez. Google why he was important in history.)
So, what's wrong with 20% of folks on here changing the landscape? It's doable. And changing the landscape doesn't mean exiting. It means making it a better place. You want it. We want it. It is sides. It is all about God's side versus Man's side heresy/crap teaching.
VW started an idea for a battle plan. "His friends," and even folks that are neither friends nor enemies agree with it. I am his friend. I asked questions and made suggestions. Sirk made a different suggestion. I still think he's nuts, (again, in a good way, but you know you are confident enough in a friendship to call your friend nuts lol), but I supported him.
You're your own man. You can decide for yourself what you want to do. For that matter if you have a better plan, let us know. I'm kind of torn with the plan, because I also have a hubby who became a believer from the very act of harassing believers for the fun of it. But, I can tell you adding scripture in hopes everyone will go with it and become all kumbyah on each other won't work. You're kind of assuming it's one problem there when there are many. There are heretics that are slicker than the best used car shyster. (Actually those are the ones we'd like gone... maybe. If not gone, we need a way to protect the babes in Christ and the weak.) The rest of the yelling you see is exactly what it appears to be, people reacting to an emotion button being hit, usually by accident. Or worse yet, a button pushing another button. You're a bit insecure about your age. (I know because I know Reborn enough to know he wasn't talkin about your age, but you were sure he was.) My button is the weak, the poor, the disabled. I have no tolerance for anything that even feels like an attack, and therefore, I get angry at people who aren't even attacking just because I read them wrong. It happens. We're not perfect. If we were, would we even need God?
There's this sticky post on the top of this board I have to read once in a while to get my head straight. It's about passions boiling over. I think that's good reading. Were not worried about that, until it's a pattern. Otherwise, it's a bro who just had a bad day.
We're worried about garbage being taught as fact on a Christian site. We too want this site better. Thus we're not wolverines. (I just picked wolverines because they can be nasty, rip your throat out creatures who don't even need a reason to rip a throat out.)
Today I watched yet another commercial promoting the homosexual agenda. I said, "If there is enough people speaking up will that huge corporation change the ad?
Hubby said, "The vast majority of Americans agree with it, so they won't do anything."
My response, (after E-yahing the intelligence level of the vast majority of Americans), "20% is enough to change a marketing strategy."
Another large corporation (Google) changed their commercial promoting the homosexual agenda. Something had to happen that they made that decision plan. That, and I remember the boycott on grapes in the US in the 60's, so absolutely know mass boycotts work. (If you don't know the grape boycott, you probably know Cesar Chevez. Google why he was important in history.)
So, what's wrong with 20% of folks on here changing the landscape? It's doable. And changing the landscape doesn't mean exiting. It means making it a better place. You want it. We want it. It is sides. It is all about God's side versus Man's side heresy/crap teaching.
VW started an idea for a battle plan. "His friends," and even folks that are neither friends nor enemies agree with it. I am his friend. I asked questions and made suggestions. Sirk made a different suggestion. I still think he's nuts, (again, in a good way, but you know you are confident enough in a friendship to call your friend nuts lol), but I supported him.
You're your own man. You can decide for yourself what you want to do. For that matter if you have a better plan, let us know. I'm kind of torn with the plan, because I also have a hubby who became a believer from the very act of harassing believers for the fun of it. But, I can tell you adding scripture in hopes everyone will go with it and become all kumbyah on each other won't work. You're kind of assuming it's one problem there when there are many. There are heretics that are slicker than the best used car shyster. (Actually those are the ones we'd like gone... maybe. If not gone, we need a way to protect the babes in Christ and the weak.) The rest of the yelling you see is exactly what it appears to be, people reacting to an emotion button being hit, usually by accident. Or worse yet, a button pushing another button. You're a bit insecure about your age. (I know because I know Reborn enough to know he wasn't talkin about your age, but you were sure he was.) My button is the weak, the poor, the disabled. I have no tolerance for anything that even feels like an attack, and therefore, I get angry at people who aren't even attacking just because I read them wrong. It happens. We're not perfect. If we were, would we even need God?
There's this sticky post on the top of this board I have to read once in a while to get my head straight. It's about passions boiling over. I think that's good reading. Were not worried about that, until it's a pattern. Otherwise, it's a bro who just had a bad day.
We're worried about garbage being taught as fact on a Christian site. We too want this site better. Thus we're not wolverines. (I just picked wolverines because they can be nasty, rip your throat out creatures who don't even need a reason to rip a throat out.)
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I'm not sure which battle plan you're referring to in relation to VW. His initial battle plan, based upon the opening posts in his thread, seemed to have been to just put certain people on ignore because he felt that it was hopeless to try to reason with certain people anymore. Based upon his and my dialogue yesterday, however, he seems to be willing to amend that battle plan a bit and I have to pause here to say that I'd much rather talk directly to him about his plans than to have anybody else voluntarily speak on his behalf. That seems to be another problem here. Too many people speaking in relation to who or what other people are or believe. Again, I think that we're all underestimating God's ability to speak to us individually and, at the same time, I'm not discounting what you said about protecting the young or the weak. I'm just saying that, again, as co-laborers with God we each have our limits. Let's do what God's called us to do and wait on Him to do what only He can do.
Again, you're mentioning age and making an assumption/assertion about me that simply isn't true. It's not the first time that you've done it and not the only area in which you've done it. I'm asking you kindly to please stop doing the same. If you choose not to, then fine. I know who and what I am and God can certainly show me otherwise if I'm momentarily deceived or deluded, but you're simply way off base in this repeated assertion of yours. Age to me means absolutely nothing and I believe that the same holds true with God. As I said to somebody privately yesterday, the children in the temple were shouting out praises to Jesus while the Pharisees were fuming about the same. Now don't go anybody and read something into that which wasn't intended. In other words, don't go anybody and think, Hey, he just referred to himself as a babe who is praising Christ while some of the rest of us are Pharisees. That's not my point at all and I'm mentioning this to illustrate how easily people can be offended when there was no intent involved to begin with. I'm merely saying that time and age aren't necessarily relevant at all in that God strives with us all by His Spirit, regardless of time and age, and how we all respond is what is of utmost importance.
I'm going to stay logged off today for quite a bit as I spend some quality time with God.
I'd like to thank psychomom again for pointing out to me how this thread was becoming the very type of thing that I was crying out against. I'm no Nietzsche fan, that's for sure, but he has a pretty famous quote which I believe applies here. He once said:
He who fights monsters should see to it that he himself does not become a monster.
That's where I'm at presently. I'm going to spend some time in introspection before the Lord to ensure that I don't become the very thing that I hate.
I wish you all a good day today.
Thanks.
Again, you're mentioning age and making an assumption/assertion about me that simply isn't true. It's not the first time that you've done it and not the only area in which you've done it. I'm asking you kindly to please stop doing the same. If you choose not to, then fine. I know who and what I am and God can certainly show me otherwise if I'm momentarily deceived or deluded, but you're simply way off base in this repeated assertion of yours. Age to me means absolutely nothing and I believe that the same holds true with God. As I said to somebody privately yesterday, the children in the temple were shouting out praises to Jesus while the Pharisees were fuming about the same. Now don't go anybody and read something into that which wasn't intended. In other words, don't go anybody and think, Hey, he just referred to himself as a babe who is praising Christ while some of the rest of us are Pharisees. That's not my point at all and I'm mentioning this to illustrate how easily people can be offended when there was no intent involved to begin with. I'm merely saying that time and age aren't necessarily relevant at all in that God strives with us all by His Spirit, regardless of time and age, and how we all respond is what is of utmost importance.
I'm going to stay logged off today for quite a bit as I spend some quality time with God.
I'd like to thank psychomom again for pointing out to me how this thread was becoming the very type of thing that I was crying out against. I'm no Nietzsche fan, that's for sure, but he has a pretty famous quote which I believe applies here. He once said:
He who fights monsters should see to it that he himself does not become a monster.
That's where I'm at presently. I'm going to spend some time in introspection before the Lord to ensure that I don't become the very thing that I hate.
I wish you all a good day today.
Thanks.
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I know I'm gonna get jumped on for saying this, but I don't really care.. Honestly, alot of you people need to grow up and act like adults. Act like the christians you CLAIM to be. Claims don't mean diddly squat if you can't back them up. There are so many rude, sarcastic, self-righteous people on this forum that it is truly disgusting. I'm sure most of you are aware that you are greatly disappointing your God. Probably some of you don't even give a crap. Y'all need to stop being so full of hate and disrespect and rudeness. Start acting like Jesus. It's what he calls you to do and y'all are disobeying him blatantly. Come down off your soap boxes and get back down to reality.. I have NEVER seen a more hateful, self-righteously rude forum on any other site other than this one. I am truly appalled that people act this way.
As someone on another thread stated, even atheists and devil worshippers act more respectable than people on here do.
And I'm sorry to say that I think that's true. Some of you seem to like serving Satan instead of Jesus.. Got news for you. YOU'RE the ones who won't make it to heaven. Y'all are christian men and women, or profess to be. The proof is in your actions and words. Start living up to your professions.. Stop being so cruel, rude, insensitive, and disrespectful of others and start making God proud. Start acting like he commands you to act..
As someone on another thread stated, even atheists and devil worshippers act more respectable than people on here do.
And I'm sorry to say that I think that's true. Some of you seem to like serving Satan instead of Jesus.. Got news for you. YOU'RE the ones who won't make it to heaven. Y'all are christian men and women, or profess to be. The proof is in your actions and words. Start living up to your professions.. Stop being so cruel, rude, insensitive, and disrespectful of others and start making God proud. Start acting like he commands you to act..