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I would also like to add that Newtonian math...........was probably known by the ancients. It takes Newtonian math to "see" all the things that the ancients were putting into these structures.
Beliefs Regarding The Flood
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I would also like to add that Newtonian math...........was probably known by the ancients. It takes Newtonian math to "see" all the things that the ancients were putting into these structures.
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Tintin
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The Great Flood was worldwide. No doubt about it.
People here know I'm obsessed with early Genesis and believe it to be all history and historical genealogies. Noah and the Great Flood is one of my absolute favourite stories in the whole Bible. Yes, I believe the Flood was worldwide and really did happen. There's evidence all around us.
Definitely worldwide. The earth was totally flooded, then after the whole earth changed, including that humans did not live as long.
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Tintin
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The pre-Flood world was very different to the post-Flood world. For example, we know continental drift happened and that the earth was one super-continent, but if you go by the Bible the continental separation can't have happened 100 or so million years ago, but rather, the only time it could've happened, without killing every land-dwelling person and animal, is during the Great Flood of Noah's time. That also answers your question about Australia and America. As for the Ice Age. There was only one and it was a result of the Great Flood. Biblical creationists believe it lasted for up to 700 years, following the Flood.
Please tell me how the mountain ranges were only covered from Noah's perspective? Water finds its own level. That's a heck of a meniscus effect! It's just not possible. That said, you're right that the mountain ranges would've been far lower than today, because the higher mountains were formed during the Flood and a little after. And yes, you're right about the fountains of the great deep having the biggest role to play in the Flood.
Genesis 6-9, read in context, with all of the elements that make up the Flood account, plus with what Jesus says and some of His disciples say concerning the Flood, there's absolutely no way to interpret the Great Flood as a local Flood or just an allegory piece. No way.
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The Flood event was so dramatic that the entire surface of the earth was ripped up, stripped down to bedrock, and then miles of sediment were laid down on top. The present surface of the earth is nothing like what it was before the Flood. There is NO original land remaining. That means that the rivers are all post-Flood phenomena. They were not there before. All tributaries and rivers on the earth today are unoriginal, their sources and outlets did not exist before the Flood receded.
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Here's a great article about the pre-Flood world by Dr. Andrew A. Snelling:
https://answersingenesis.org/geolog...nt=noahslostworld-17291&utm_campaign=20141105
Erik Walker
Here's a great article about the pre-Flood world by Dr. Andrew A. Snelling:
https://answersingenesis.org/geolog...nt=noahslostworld-17291&utm_campaign=20141105
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sorry to be just a little off topic but just wanted to say i think Newton was such a great scientist and ahead of his time was because he was such a spiritual person. this is why hi "got it" with so many subjects and so many other scientist with huge brains seem to hit walls and get lost. this was also true with Einstein.
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Gr8grace
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He went to the Giza pyramid to try to test some of his theories. But He couldn't get to the base of the pyramid to get exact measurements. Or erosion caused a problem.....can't remember for sure.
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i have thought about this. most seem to think the biblical flood happened 3500 - 2500 BC as most the other ancient culture report a flood around 10500 BC.
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purgedconscience
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True, but this doesn't prove that the waters of Noah's flood rose higher than the mountains which we now have today. In other words, some of these mountains were probably caused by Noah's flood when all the fountains of the great deep were broken up and when the earth's tectonic plates would have been moving and crashing into each other and mountains would have been being formed and the sea life might have risen to the tops of these mountains with the mountains themselves. In other words, as the mountains were being formed and moving upwards, the sea life basically took the trip upwards with them. If such was indeed the case, then there's presently enough water here on earth to cover the earth if these mountains were pushed back down to their original levels. I hope that that makes sense.
I do believe that the flood was worldwide, by the way.
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Gr8grace
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Take a close look at 2 Peter 3:5-7.
5For when they maintain this, it escapes their notice that by the word of God the heavens existed long ago and the earth was formed out of water and by water, 6through which the world at that time was destroyed, being flooded with water. 7But by His word the present heavens and earth are being reserved for fire, kept for the day of judgment and destruction of ungodly men.
Noah's flood has never escaped our notice. We may bicker about it being local or world wide, but it has never escaped our notice as Christians?
The heavens( the three heavens) didn't change with Noah's flood.
First time water, 2nd time fire, both times the whole world...
For they deliberately overlook this fact, that the heavens existed long ago, and the earth was formed out of water and through water by the word of God, and that by means of these the world that then existed was deluged with water and perished. But by the same word the heavens and earth that now exist are stored up for fire, being kept until the day of judgment and destruction of the ungodly.
(2Pe 3:5-7)
Unless you want to argue the judgment to come by fire is just local. I don't think so.
For they deliberately overlook this fact, that the heavens existed long ago, and the earth was formed out of water and through water by the word of God, and that by means of these the world that then existed was deluged with water and perished. But by the same word the heavens and earth that now exist are stored up for fire, being kept until the day of judgment and destruction of the ungodly.
(2Pe 3:5-7)
Unless you want to argue the judgment to come by fire is just local. I don't think so.
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I do see your point of view, but even though it still shows that even the highest peaks we have today were once under water at one point. And if they were under water then that means also the lower land areas also had to be under water. Even if they formed at the time of the flood this would mean they would have been pushed up higher then the normal land mass height was and therefore since they would have still been under water then the lower regions also would have to be....