Catholic Heresy (for the record)
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you are quite right your church formulated its doctrine on the basis of late tradition and the perverted opinions of your magisterium. It is nowhere found in true Scripture.
1 Cor 3.15 speaks of WORKS being burned up. It does not refer to PEOPLE being purged by fire. How could fire purge people? The idea is ridiculous. But of course your church always loved playing with fire. It gave an excuse for burning godly men whom they didn't like.
the testing by fire here was Christians literally facing burning. The burning would not purge them Their faith was not burned either. Their being burned strengthened their faith and made them strong. It had nothing to do with purging. Do you actually read these Scriptures you post, or does someone just give you a list?
Why must we? Fire does not purge human beings, it burns them up. It is the blood of Christ which purifies. And Christ is able to make us holy in the twinkling of an eye (1 Cor 15.52).
We learn nothing of the kind. That is a fallacy. Jesus was just emphasising that there was no way in which blasphemy against the Holy Spirit could be pardoned. He was not defining other kinds of pardon. You must remember that the people He was talking to were in expectancy (quite wrongly) of going into the age to come. He was simply pointing out to them that whatever their future they would not find forgiveness. Any sin that is not forgiven in this life will never be forgiven.
There is in fact no mention of prayer there, and the Book of the Maccabees contains many historical errors and is not Scripture. But even so all that tells us is that Judas Maccabeus was in error. It does not claim that God approved of his action. He offered the sacrifices in hope because there was nothing else that he could do. But he was neither a priest or a prophet. He could not declare God's will. You Roman Catholics cling desperately to straws.
In the time of Elijah Scripture says that the priests of Baal offered sacrifices to Baal. Does that make them scriptural.
No doubt you will give us evidence of this? It is in fact a lie. There is NOTHING of this in Scripture. It is just flowery words. But I don't suppose that bothers you.
1 Cor 3.15 speaks of WORKS being burned up. It does not refer to PEOPLE being purged by fire. How could fire purge people? The idea is ridiculous. But of course your church always loved playing with fire. It gave an excuse for burning godly men whom they didn't like.
the testing by fire here was Christians literally facing burning. The burning would not purge them Their faith was not burned either. Their being burned strengthened their faith and made them strong. It had nothing to do with purging. Do you actually read these Scriptures you post, or does someone just give you a list?
Why must we? Fire does not purge human beings, it burns them up. It is the blood of Christ which purifies. And Christ is able to make us holy in the twinkling of an eye (1 Cor 15.52).
We learn nothing of the kind. That is a fallacy. Jesus was just emphasising that there was no way in which blasphemy against the Holy Spirit could be pardoned. He was not defining other kinds of pardon. You must remember that the people He was talking to were in expectancy (quite wrongly) of going into the age to come. He was simply pointing out to them that whatever their future they would not find forgiveness. Any sin that is not forgiven in this life will never be forgiven.
There is in fact no mention of prayer there, and the Book of the Maccabees contains many historical errors and is not Scripture. But even so all that tells us is that Judas Maccabeus was in error. It does not claim that God approved of his action. He offered the sacrifices in hope because there was nothing else that he could do. But he was neither a priest or a prophet. He could not declare God's will. You Roman Catholics cling desperately to straws.
In the time of Elijah Scripture says that the priests of Baal offered sacrifices to Baal. Does that make them scriptural.
No doubt you will give us evidence of this? It is in fact a lie. There is NOTHING of this in Scripture. It is just flowery words. But I don't suppose that bothers you.
Really mwc68? Then why do you Catholics teach if you say the Rosary over and over again praying to Mary that Mary Herself will remove you from Purgatory the first Saturday after you die?
If we need to be in Purgatory to cleanse ourselves of the stain of our sins, then for Mary to remove us from Purgatory she herself has to then cleanse us of the stain of our sins before she can remove us!
I know more about the Catholic Traditions they you do mwc68.
If we need to be in Purgatory to cleanse ourselves of the stain of our sins, then for Mary to remove us from Purgatory she herself has to then cleanse us of the stain of our sins before she can remove us!
I know more about the Catholic Traditions they you do mwc68.
You misunderstand AGAIN mwc68.
Matthew 12:31-32
[SUP]31 [/SUP] "Therefore I say to you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven men.
[SUP]32 [/SUP] Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man, it will be forgiven him; but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit, it will not be forgiven him, either in this age or in the age to come.
Our Salvation is received from the Holy Spirit mwc68. When we receive Salvation we also receive the Indwelling of the Holy Spirit. If you blasphemy against the Holy Spirit you cannot receive the Indwelling of the Holy Spirit.
Without the Indwelling of the Holy Spirit you do not have Salvation.
What is blasphemy against the Spirit? Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit is where you say what the Holy Spirit does comes from Satan instead, and this will keep you from Inheriting the Kingdom of God mwc68.
Matthew 12:31-32
[SUP]31 [/SUP] "Therefore I say to you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven men.
[SUP]32 [/SUP] Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man, it will be forgiven him; but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit, it will not be forgiven him, either in this age or in the age to come.
Our Salvation is received from the Holy Spirit mwc68. When we receive Salvation we also receive the Indwelling of the Holy Spirit. If you blasphemy against the Holy Spirit you cannot receive the Indwelling of the Holy Spirit.
Without the Indwelling of the Holy Spirit you do not have Salvation.
What is blasphemy against the Spirit? Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit is where you say what the Holy Spirit does comes from Satan instead, and this will keep you from Inheriting the Kingdom of God mwc68.
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I am humbled by the condolences and prayers... Thank you...
But in all honesty, I only responded to the post because I found it arrogant... very Unchristian like... the humbling comes from realizing that by answering in "like" tone, I lowered myself to someone else's standards... at least that would have been my sister consciences...Extraordinary Woman, devoted her life to the service of others in need...theses past 10 years in Zimbabwe caring for children born with aides... was blessed to call her sister...
But in all honesty, I only responded to the post because I found it arrogant... very Unchristian like... the humbling comes from realizing that by answering in "like" tone, I lowered myself to someone else's standards... at least that would have been my sister consciences...Extraordinary Woman, devoted her life to the service of others in need...theses past 10 years in Zimbabwe caring for children born with aides... was blessed to call her sister...