Balance

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Nov 25, 2014
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I was being a little sarcastic. Personally I would not call cigarettes as a sin, but a habit that damages the body, so needs working on. I just wondered when people talked about compromise what in real terms they mean.

There have been massive arguments with some saying we should walk perfectly and others saying we cannot so let us just say we are defeated. The arguments tend to go in circles because people are not talking about their struggles.

So I was interested in seeing if we could actually talk about these issues.
I appreciate this. It is interesting how easy it is to use the full armor of God against our brothers and sisters in Christ. Everyone wants to show what a shiny and powerful sword they have and how strong their shield is. Too few want to drop the armor, be a little more transparent, and discuss real struggles.
 
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EdisonTrent

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Balance the human spirit and his ways....really......who can achieve such stature?.....The chicken or the egg....sword or shield...

you got to know when to hold them know when to fold them
 

Joidevivre

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I appreciate this. It is interesting how easy it is to use the full armor of God against our brothers and sisters in Christ. Everyone wants to show what a shiny and powerful sword they have and how strong their shield is. Too few want to drop the armor, be a little more transparent, and discuss real struggles.
I chose to talk about cigarettes because it was the lesser of the sins I have struggled with and won victory over by NOT having my impulses taken away. I really learned the power of NO even though you feel like you are dying - and so I did. Everything I thought was satisfying me, I chose to sacrifice and die to because it was not God's will or best for me. . I chose to have nothing!

No, I do not share these very real struggles because they are personal and the important thing is the struggles are hard and they are real - and that God meets you in them and for everything you die to, he restores back to you in ways that would surprise you.
 

MarcR

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I appreciate this. It is interesting how easy it is to use the full armor of God against our brothers and sisters in Christ. Everyone wants to show what a shiny and powerful sword they have and how strong their shield is. Too few want to drop the armor, be a little more transparent, and discuss real struggles.

There is on the forum a climate of hostility which makes it difficult for many to reveal their inner selves.

I am not trying to point fingers or cast blame. I am just stating fact. Words have power to hurt as well as to encourage; and until the forum becomes a gentler place, it is understandable that members feel a need to protect themselves.
 
Feb 24, 2015
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I am all for sharing about general issues, they do not have to be specific in detail, but it is often the sense of being alone, this is something not common, and I am the most feeble etc. rather than we all have x issue, but this is how I cope.

I will share one that I have learnt about. Anger. In a close relationship, with love, desire, planning etc you easily trip up over each other. The frustration can lead to anger and the anger to words you regret. It becomes a struggle to supress you feeling and always be nice, but it all gets too much sometimes.

So I found I could emotionally divorce myself, walk away, and be alone, really alone. I could let myself go to that place and give up the relationship, just let it go. Part of me would feel guilty and want to stop me. When I was truly there, the emotion had put me where I needed to be. I found there I could learn to love again, to come back, to see what I appreciated not because I was scared of loosing it, but because when alone, it did mean something to me.

It has taken many years to learn emotions are there for a reason and you need to listen. If you are not careful though, anger can go to hate, and hate to worse things.

Now I am not saying the emotions I feel are right, but they are real, and I need to let myself feel them or they do not go away or change.

So that is one of my struggles and my victory.
 
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Blooming_Violet

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Balance the human spirit and his ways....really......who can achieve such stature?.....The chicken or the egg....sword or shield...

you got to know when to hold them know when to fold them
I think you just expressed the dilemma exactly.
 
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Blooming_Violet

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Perhaps this explains it better...

rom.7.18-23.niv For I know that good itself does not dwell in me, that is, in my sinful nature. For I have the desire to do what is good, but I cannot carry it out. For I do not do the good I want to do, but the evil I do not want to do—this I keep on doing. Now if I do what I do not want to do, it is no longer I who do it, but it is sin living in me that does it. So I find this law at work: Although I want to do good, evil is right there with me. For in my inner being I delight in God’s law; but I see another law at work in me, waging war against the law of my mind and making me a prisoner of the law of sin at work within me.