How to promote unity while acknowledging doctrinal differences

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OK...having just read some of a certain thread that has been started to draw attention to the one who started it,
I wish to say that I am up to here with people thinking their place is to tell others they are going to hell

Those are the ones that should be banned IMO...within the framework of that thread, are a couple of people who actually think they are gifted by God to judge your motives and then tell you that God told them about you

This, is a serious matter. In any other forum I have ever been a part of, that person would be warned and then banned
Oh, it's been worse in the past. Once an individual prophesied against me and another member with sickness and death...ehh, apparantly a false prophet.
 
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Oh, it's been worse in the past. Once an individual prophesied against me and another member with sickness and death...ehh, apparantly a false prophet.
You think that's bad?

Some guy once prophesied to me that when I was 26 years old I'd be posting on a Christian site where people spent most of their time learning how to get along with each other. That guy was definitely a heret...uh...er...I'll be right back. I've got to call that guy to see if he has tonight's winning lottery numbers.

haha.

So, how's everybody doing today?
 
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Oh, it's been worse in the past. Once an individual prophesied against me and another member with sickness and death...ehh, apparantly a false prophet.
that's definately all about the love

I can't fathom the number of people who seem to want to be a prophet

I guess they think it is the most impressive thing to be
 
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If you believe Luther is demon possession, then you don't want to unite with Lutheran or you want to unite with demon.
I didn't yank your chain! But it sure looks like Satan to splinter the Church then cause 30,000 different denominations all protesting the Church. (Protestant)
 
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I didn't yank your chain! But it sure looks like Satan to splinter the Church then cause 30,000 different denominations all protesting the Church. (Protestant)
So you believe all who protest catholic is Satan possession?
 
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You think that's bad?

Some guy once prophesied to me that when I was 26 years old I'd be posting on a Christian site where people spent most of their time learning how to get along with each other. That guy was definitely a heret...uh...er...I'll be right back. I've got to call that guy to see if he has tonight's winning lottery numbers.

haha.

So, how's everybody doing today?
Hahaha. :)
 

p_rehbein

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I didn't yank your chain! But it sure looks like Satan to splinter the Church then cause 30,000 different denominations all protesting the Church. (Protestant)
Wait.............Wut? Are you saying that all Protestants are servants of the devil?

You know you are walking on very thin ice concerning the Rules of the Forums right?
 
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OK...having just read some of a certain thread that has been started to draw attention to the one who started it,
I wish to say that I am up to here with people thinking their place is to tell others they are going to hell

Those are the ones that should be banned IMO...within the framework of that thread, are a couple of people who actually think they are gifted by God to judge your motives and then tell you that God told them about you

This, is a serious matter. In any other forum I have ever been a part of, that person would be warned and then banned
In other forums I've been on, you can get banned for saying things like,
"Oh come on now! You can't possibly believe that."

and

"I don't believe stories about homosexuals should be written for middle graders."

and

"A good place to study the curses God has included in the OT are..."

and

"But [name a person] just said, ...."

Truthfully? This is one of the first sites that don't go all ridiculous on the rules by trying to be so annoyingly PC, so I'd rather not upset the cart by starting to added in PCism as rules to this site.
 
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atwhatcost

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AARRRGGGHHH, so that's what those warning were all about :confused:
Whoops, I should warn you? At this rate, I should just start every post with, "Warning: This will probably rub you the wrong way, but..." lol
 

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Unity is about being in the Body of Christ, not about having one doctrinal sway or another.
That's why I posted Eph 4. Doctrinal unity is NOT the goal of the Church unity. Casting off unsure doctrines IS part of discipleship, but has nothing to do with unity.

There are many parts of the Body. This is in systems and organs and cells.
In your cell (your local body), there are many parts and roles for each part.
In this way, there are also parts for the other cells, and the collective organs, and systems of organs.

As long as we are in Christ, we are united.

The hand should not tell the foot how to hold things. The knee and the hip don't need to bend the same way.
Truth is concrete, but it is also multifaceted. It is not a one dimensional object. When we see doctrinal differences amount those that we know are in Christ, we must discern whether or not it is
a different vantage point of the same object,
or if it is error based on overreaching what is revealed in Scripture,
or denial of Truth to excuse a sin.

I disagree with dispensationalist about what is "revealed Truth", but I also view them as having a different vantage point of the same object. They see a different side of Grace and Redemptive History than what I see.
In this, we can maintain unity, through the bond of peace.
 
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atwhatcost

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I didn't yank your chain! But it sure looks like Satan to splinter the Church then cause 30,000 different denominations all protesting the Church. (Protestant)
Want to know why Luther was upset? He went to Rome from guilt of his sin. He needed to talk to the pope, because he kept trying for penance (which isn't repent, a mistake St. Jerome made in the Latin Vulgate, but once discovered, has never been changed by the Catholic Church.) Instead of talking to the Pope he witnessed an orgy with cardinals and the pope participating in lavish luxury from the money raised by selling "indulgences." And they were selling indulgences because they bankrupted what Rome already collected in tithes. Even then, Luther never wanted to leave the Catholic Church. He studied the scripture, saw what it was really about, and tried to talk Rome into it too.

The first time Rome called him to the carpet was the Diet of Worms. ("Diet" is something like a gathering for judgement. "Worms" is a town in Germany so sounds like "Vorms.") Go read what happened.

If you don't know the history, how do you guess it's demon possession?
 

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You think that's bad?

Some guy once prophesied to me that when I was 26 years old I'd be posting on a Christian site where people spent most of their time learning how to get along with each other. That guy was definitely a heret...uh...er...I'll be right back. I've got to call that guy to see if he has tonight's winning lottery numbers.

haha.

So, how's everybody doing today?
Haha, I meant that prophesy happened on this site.
 

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that's definately all about the love

I can't fathom the number of people who seem to want to be a prophet

I guess they think it is the most impressive thing to be
They'd have a change of heart if they were told to do what Ezekiel was told...lay on the left side 390 days and then the right side 40 days
...and for his meal? Barley cake and cow dung (originally human dung). Ezek 4:8-15

OK will the real prophets please stand up?
 

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I didn't yank your chain! But it sure looks like Satan to splinter the Church then cause 30,000 different denominations all protesting the Church. (Protestant)
You'd better go back where Rome split with the Eastern Church. Get that patched up first before you start talking unity.
 

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Whoops, I should warn you? At this rate, I should just start every post with, "Warning: This will probably rub you the wrong way, but..." lol
Warning...I lost track of which track this conversation is on. :p

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Unity is about being in the Body of Christ, not about having one doctrinal sway or another.
That's why I posted Eph 4. Doctrinal unity is NOT the goal of the Church unity. Casting off unsure doctrines IS part of discipleship, but has nothing to do with unity.

There are many parts of the Body. This is in systems and organs and cells.
In your cell (your local body), there are many parts and roles for each part.
In this way, there are also parts for the other cells, and the collective organs, and systems of organs.

As long as we are in Christ, we are united.

The hand should not tell the foot how to hold things. The knee and the hip don't need to bend the same way.
Truth is concrete, but it is also multifaceted. It is not a one dimensional object. When we see doctrinal differences amount those that we know are in Christ, we must discern whether or not it is
a different vantage point of the same object,
or if it is error based on overreaching what is revealed in Scripture,
or denial of Truth to excuse a sin.

I disagree with dispensationalist about what is "revealed Truth", but I also view them as having a different vantage point of the same object. They see a different side of Grace and Redemptive History than what I see.
In this, we can maintain unity, through the bond of peace.
All nice and tidy, but in the real world...or even in here on CC there are those that don't fit the description "in Christ". They are still "in Adam".