Free from sin

[InSpiritInTruth]

Some folks will tell you that in this life you can never be free from sin, and that you will always sin, and be in sin. But this my friends is not of faith in the good news gospel and power of God in Jesus Christ. That is another gospel, and doctrine of doubt in what the power of God can do you in your life by faith in Jesus Christ.

Jesus came to save us from our sins, to cleanse us from all iniquity, and to also set us free from sin, and to also give us the power by the grace of God so that sin shall not rule over you, but rather righteousness.

Matthew 1:21 “And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name Jesus: for he shall save his people from their sins.

1 John 5:17 “All unrighteousness is sin:….” Jesus cleanses us from all sin>>>1 John 1:9 “If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. = 0 sins left after cleansing. And then he empowers us by His Spirit and by Christ working in us (seed of promise) to remain sin free>>>1 John 3:9 “Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.” = being “In Christ” and not being “in sin”.

Being made free from sin….

Romans 6:3-7 "Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?[SUP]4 [/SUP]Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.[SUP]5 [/SUP]For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:[SUP]6 [/SUP]Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.[SUP]7 [/SUP]For he that is dead is freed from sin.”

Romans 6:18 “Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness.
Romans 6:20 For when ye were the servants of sin, ye were free from righteousness.
Romans 6:22 But now being made free from sin, and become servants to God, ye have your fruit unto holiness, and the end everlasting life.

Romans 8:2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.

John 8:34-36 “Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin.[SUP]35 [/SUP]And the servant abideth not in the house for ever: but the Son abideth ever.
[SUP]36 [/SUP]If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed.”

So don’t doubt the power of God in Christ Jesus, but rather believe. Peace

 

[Blain]

People keep misinterpreting these scripture about being free from sin and not sinning. It isn't literal if you take certain parts of the bible as literal you will get the wrong interpretation. Yes we are free from sin it no longer hold us in chains not meaning we never sin but that sin no longer owns us Jesus does and his grace is sufficient

And when it is said we don't sin any more it means we strive not to sin not that we don't sin. If anyone actually believes they no longer sin then they need to humble their hearts before God

 

[InSpiritInTruth]

Mark 9:23
Jesus said unto him, If thou canst believe, all things are possible to him that believeth.

 

[crossnote]

Just as the full healing of these bodies are promised, we won't see it fully realised until we receive our new bodies.

In the same way, although sin has no more dominion over us, we are still dogged by temptations and struggles until we receive our new bodies.

Galatians 5:16-17 (KJV)
16 This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh.
17 For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would.

 

[notuptome]

Mark 9:23
Jesus said unto him, If thou canst believe, all things are possible to him that believeth.

Peter walked on the water until he took his eyes off of Christ then he began to sink. Jesus did not allow Peter to perish but rescued him from his foolishness.

If we say we have no sin we make Christ a liar.

How many times will you visit this subject before you conclude that Gods word does not change. Gods word does not support your contentions today and will not support them tomorrow.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

 

[InSpiritInTruth]

Just as the full healing of these bodies are promised, we won't see it fully realised until we receive our new bodies.

In the same way, although sin has no more dominion over us, we are still dogged by temptations and struggles until we receive our new bodies.

Galatians 5:16-17 (KJV)
16 This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh.
17 For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would.

That is why we must put to death the lusts of the flesh, that death is shown above in the OP. And look what happens if you put to death the deeds of the body by the power of the Spirit of Life in Christ= You shall Live

Romans 8:13
For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.

 

[InSpiritInTruth]

Peter walked on the water until he took his eyes off of Christ then he began to sink. Jesus did not allow Peter to perish but rescued him from his foolishness.

If we say we have no sin we make Christ a liar.

How many times will you visit this subject before you conclude that Gods word does not change. Gods word does not support your contentions today and will not support them tomorrow.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

If you want to believe you are "in Christ" but also "in sin" at the same time, then that is your choice. But I know that this thinking is in error.

 

[Blain]

Inspiritintruth do you claim to be without sin then?

 

[InSpiritInTruth]

Inspiritintruth do you claim to be without sin then?

This thread is not about me, nor you, but about what the words of God says is true. So please let's refrain from the personal insults and accusations that seem so dominate in this Bible discussion forum. Thanks

 

[Blain]

This thread is not about me, nor you, but about what the words of God says is true. So please let's refrain from the personal insults and accusations that seem so dominate in this Bible discussion forum. Thanks

I never insulted you and it's important you answer my question. If you are not without sin then you have no right to preach to us about being without sin if you cannot answer then I can only assume you you know you are not without sin but don't want to say that so you dodge the question

 

[InSpiritInTruth]

I never insulted you and it's important you answer my question. If you are not without sin then you have no right to preach to us about being without sin if you cannot answer then I can only assume you you know you are not without sin but don't want to say that so you dodge the question

What I am, or what you are does not change what the scriptures say is true. And yes, I do have the right to speak the Truth of the gospel as any other has a right to speak here on a Bible discussion forum. But again, there is no need to make the discussion personal. Thanks in advance. Peace

 

[crossnote]

That is why we must put to death the lusts of the flesh, that death is shown above in the OP. And look what happens if you put to death the deeds of the body by the power of the Spirit of Life in Christ= You shall Live

Romans 8:13
For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.

Romans 8:9-13 (KJV)
9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
10 And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.
11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.
12 Therefore, brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh.
13 For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.

We are not in the flesh if the Spirit dwells in us, v.9
We count the body as dead, yet we have life via the Spirit, v. 10
Our mortal bodies will one day be raised and quickened as was Christ's v.11
We are obligated to only God, not the flesh v.12

The above verses are promises to us who have His Spirit.

v.13 is a warning to those who lack His Spirit (If your walk is after the flesh)...that is the walk of the natural man.

The next phrase 'but if through the Spirit' comparing the state of the Christian ...'you do mortify the deeds' notice, this is the work of the Spirit in the believer, not by the believer's will power.

Thus there is an ongoing process that is going on revealing that the Christian isn't walking in complete freedom from the hassles of the flesh.

 

[Blain]

What I am, or what you are does not change what the scriptures say is true. And yes, I do have the right to speak the Truth of the gospel as any other has a right to speak here on a Bible discussion forum. But again, there is no need to make the discussion personal. Thanks in advance. Peace

It's called being a hypocrite I'm not trying to be mean I promise. Like say I say to you that stealing is a sin and you need to repent but I myself am thief, does a thief have any right to be telling another thief to stop stealing? So if you sin as you basically have made known that you do then why do you tell us not not sin? The scriptures do not say what you think they do not only that but you yourself are a sinner and you are preaching to us how we should not have any sin doesn't that seem a bit ironic?

 

[InSpiritInTruth]

Romans 8:9-13 (KJV)
9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
10 And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.
11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.
12 Therefore, brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh.
13 For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.

We are not in the flesh if the Spirit dwells in us, v.9
We count the body as dead, yet we have life via the Spirit, v. 10
Our mortal bodies will one day be raised and quickened as was Christ's v.11
We are obligated to only God, not the flesh v.12

The above verses are promises to us who have His Spirit.

v.13 is a warning to those who lack His Spirit (If your walk is after the flesh)...that is the walk of the natural man.

The next phrase 'but if through the Spirit' comparing the state of the Christian ...'you do mortify the deeds' notice, this is the work of the Spirit in the believer, not by the believer's will power.

Thus there is an ongoing process that is going on revealing that the Christian isn't walking in complete freedom from the hassles of the flesh.

Yes there is a process, for in Christ we must die daily. But complete freedom is obtainable by the power of Christ who now dwells in us. So to say we do not have, nor can we have complete freedom is to doubt what Jesus said about being free indeed.

John 8:34-36 “Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin.[SUP]35 [/SUP]And the servant abideth not in the house for ever: but the Son abideth ever.
[SUP]36 [/SUP]If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed.”

So don’t doubt the power of God in Christ Jesus, but rather believe. Peace

 

[InSpiritInTruth]

It's called being a hypocrite I'm not trying to be mean I promise. Like say I say to you that stealing is a sin and you need to repent but I myself am thief, does a thief have any right to be telling another thief to stop stealing? So if you sin as you basically have made known that you do then why do you tell us not not sin? The scriptures do not say what you think they do not only that but you yourself are a sinner and you are preaching to us how we should not have any sin doesn't that seem a bit ironic?

Personal insults and false accusations. This is a Bible discussion forum. BYE!

 

[Blain]

Personal insults and false accusations. This is a Bible discussion forum. BYE!

Again I made no personal insult or false accusations, what I did was show you that you are not the one who should be telling us these things and you became defensive making false accusations of me which shows that I struck a nerve which means you know I am right deep down. Listen I am not here to be mean or to prove I am right I am here simply to be with God's ppl and to discuss the things of God and to learn grow inspire and hopefully bless others somehow. I go into debates but I don't do so with the intent to bring others down or to prove I am right.

If you cannot debate in a loving and Christ like manner then we shouldn't be debating at all, we also have to know when toy shake the dust off our feet and walk away from the debate and most of all we must love and be love. I have said all this many times but no one listens

 

[blue_ladybug]

InSpiritInTruth, did you receive what I sent you yesterday??

 

[KJV1611]

Some folks will tell you that in this life you can never be free from sin, and that you will always sin, and be in sin. But this my friends is not of faith in the good news gospel and power of God in Jesus Christ. That is another gospel, and doctrine of doubt in what the power of God can do you in your life by faith in Jesus Christ.

Jesus came to save us from our sins, to cleanse us from all iniquity, and to also set us free from sin, and to also give us the power by the grace of God so that sin shall not rule over you, but rather righteousness.

Matthew 1:21 “And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name Jesus: for he shall save his people from their sins.

1 John 5:17 “All unrighteousness is sin:….” Jesus cleanses us from all sin>>>1 John 1:9 “If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. = 0 sins left after cleansing. And then he empowers us by His Spirit and by Christ working in us (seed of promise) to remain sin free>>>1 John 3:9 “Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.” = being “In Christ” and not being “in sin”.

Being made free from sin….

Romans 6:3-7 "Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?[SUP]4 [/SUP]Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.[SUP]5 [/SUP]For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:[SUP]6 [/SUP]Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.[SUP]7 [/SUP]For he that is dead is freed from sin.”

Romans 6:18 “Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness.
Romans 6:20 For when ye were the servants of sin, ye were free from righteousness.
Romans 6:22 But now being made free from sin, and become servants to God, ye have your fruit unto holiness, and the end everlasting life.

Romans 8:2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.

John 8:34-36 “Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin.[SUP]35 [/SUP]And the servant abideth not in the house for ever: but the Son abideth ever.
[SUP]36 [/SUP]If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed.”

So don’t doubt the power of God in Christ Jesus, but rather believe. Peace

You make it sound as if a believer gains control over the flesh and no longer does the things that are against God's law, and lives a perfect life like Christ, but that is not true, we do still break God's law and we are not perfect in this flesh.

Transgression of the law is sin. Believers can't transgress the law because there is no law for us to transgress, it has been done away with in Christ. We are not under law but under grace. We can not transgress a law that doesn't apply to us... How can you break the speed limit if there is no speed limit?

1Jn 3:4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.
1Jn 3:5 And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin.
1Jn 3:6 Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.

 

[Somtincreatib]

Again I made no personal insult or false accusations, what I did was show you that you are not the one who should be telling us these things and you became defensive making false accusations of me which shows that I struck a nerve which means you know I am right deep down. Listen I am not here to be mean or to prove I am right I am here simply to be with God's ppl and to discuss the things of God and to learn grow inspire and hopefully bless others somehow. I go into debates but I don't do so with the intent to bring others down or to prove I am right.

If you cannot debate in a loving and Christ like manner then we shouldn't be debating at all, we also have to know when toy shake the dust off our feet and walk away from the debate and most of all we must love and be love. I have said all this many times but no one listens

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In case he blocked

 

[InSpiritInTruth]

InSpiritInTruth, did you receive what I sent you yesterday??

Was it a rep? Not sure?