What's this verse mean?

[mwc68]

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Below we have included Andrew’s commentary on this scripture.

Matthew 5:48 (KJV)
48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.
Matthew 5:48
Note on Matthew 5:48
As stated in my note at Matthew 5:47, Christianity is totally different than all other religions. All religions preach “do better,” but Christianity preaches “be perfect.” This can’t be obtained through our human effort. Therefore, we have a Savior, Jesus Christ, who offers us His perfection by faith in what He did for us (2 Corinthians 5:21).
Life For Today Study Bible Notes
Note 24 at Matthew 5:48: Our goal and standard of conduct should always be perfection, even as God is perfect (Genesis 17:1, Leviticus 19:2, and 1 Peter 1:15-16). It’s always a mistake to use anyone or anything else as our standard (2 Corinthians 10:12). However, we cannot obtain sinless perfection through our efforts. Even the Apostle Paul had not obtained perfection (Philippians 3:12) but was still pressing toward the mark. We must trust the righteousness of God applied to us by faith and not our own righteousness (Philippians 3:9).
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I'm very sorry but I don't accept anything from tv preachers

 

[mwc68]

1 Cor 4:15 "afterall, though you should have ten thousand teachers in Christ, you do not have many fathers. For I became your FATHER in Christ through the gospel."

This is where we get the idea of priests being called father

 

[mwc68]

My pastor prefers to be called by his first name, Andy. Sometimes I forget and call him Pastor Andy. He puts up with me.

my priest is named Andy! Father Andy is a wonderful man dedicated to the Lord!

 

[bondservant]

P-Reuben I agree totally on what you posted, but those titles a what that person was called to do in the body. I am referring to a title like bishop or reverend so and so is not scriptural

 

[p_rehbein]

P-Reuben I agree totally on what you posted, but those titles a what that person was called to do in the body. I am referring to a title like bishop or reverend so and so is not scriptural

My comments were "in general" not aimed...........the author of this thread has a rich History of hate for Preachers or others called by God into the Ministry.........I guess you haven't been around long enough to be aware of that.

 

[bondservant]

Thanks for the heads up

 

[p_rehbein]

Thanks for the heads up

exhibit one

http://christianchat.com/bible-disc...wrong-even-if-feels-good-its-still-wrong.html

 

[p_rehbein]

Exhibit two:

Re: No man can serve two master (Matt 6:24)

Yet says:

This verse is talking about money. You cannot serve both covetiousness and God. If you place a price tag on your ministry and charge for it, you are serving Mammon, not God. You are a hireling that cares for the buck, not the sheep.

The prophets refused gifts for their gift! Not so today. Money is the prime motivator of most ministries.​

 

[KennethC]

1 Cor 4:15 "afterall, though you should have ten thousand teachers in Christ, you do not have many fathers. For I became your FATHER in Christ through the gospel."

This is where we get the idea of priests being called father

Bad translations do lead to false understanding of what is being said, here is what the actual verse says;

1 Corinthians 4:15
For though ye have ten thousand instructors in Christ, yet have ye not many fathers: for in Christ Jesus I have begotten you through the gospel.

 

[EdisonTrent]

Exhibit two:

Re: No man can serve two master (Matt 6:24)

Yet says:

This verse is talking about money. You cannot serve both covetiousness and God. If you place a price tag on your ministry and charge for it, you are serving Mammon, not God. You are a hireling that cares for the buck, not the sheep.

The prophets refused gifts for their gift! Not so today. Money is the prime motivator of most ministries.​

today if a ministry has a building for worship is the electricity free the rent free or air time on a TV channel free, if not then how does a ministry
Keep the lights on and the doors open or TV air time just wondering?. Also 2000yrs ago was shelter,food etc. free?

 

[MikkoAinasoja]

Matt.23 and call no man on earth father:Greek: pater: honorific title. Be not called Master or Rabbi: teacher.
Whosoever exalts himself shall be humbled.
Does this mean when one puts an honorific title in front of their name, they are exalting themselves above others.
'He that is greatest among you shall be your servant' is sandwiched in between these verses. I are a dummy but it seems pretty clear to this country boy.

What say You?

It means that we already have the Master, and the Rabbi Lord Yeshua, and that if we are begotten in God, then we have father in Heaven, and that's why we should not call the the one in here earth to our father.

 

[seed_time_harvest]

Jesus referred himself as a servant.

Thanks for the bringing the spirit of the WORD to my remembrance.

 

[KennethC]

Exhibit two:

Re: No man can serve two master (Matt 6:24)

Yet says:

This verse is talking about money. You cannot serve both covetiousness and God. If you place a price tag on your ministry and charge for it, you are serving Mammon, not God. You are a hireling that cares for the buck, not the sheep.

The prophets refused gifts for their gift! Not so today. Money is the prime motivator of most ministries.​

Yes they are not to charge others to hear them preach the gospel, but there is nothing wrong with them charging for their own personal study materials they have made to help others.

What becomes wrong is what they then do with that money...
If they use it to just better themselves by getting a big expensive house, cars, and other things for themselves. Then it is wrong...........

If they use it to pay for the bills of the church, keep up the maintenance on the building, and use it for the purpose of helping others in need then there is nothing wrong with that. Which is also what tithes are to go for as well !!!

 

[Yet]

You know something...there is really no debate on this.
If you can't see this , there's no way I can make you see it? I guess some things cannot be revealed to a person by flesh and blood. Only the Spirit can pull back the vail.

 

[p_rehbein]

Yes they are not to charge others to hear them preach the gospel, but there is nothing wrong with them charging for their own personal study materials they have made to help others.

What becomes wrong is what they then do with that money...
If they use it to just better themselves by getting a big expensive house, cars, and other things for themselves. Then it is wrong...........

If they use it to pay for the bills of the church, keep up the maintenance on the building, and use it for the purpose of helping others in need then there is nothing wrong with that. Which is also what tithes are to go for as well !!![/QUOTE]


You and Yet must be kinfolk?

1) I don't think the average Pastor of a local congregation CHARGES the congregation to preach the Gospel. The congregation, when one is needed, actively seeks to find a Pastor for their church. The Pulpit Committee usually puts together a compensation package to offer a perspective Pastor when they choose one. This compensation is perfectly Biblical, and is intended to assist the Pastor with their normal living expenses that all people have.

The congregation has the final word/vote in selecting a Pastor and in the approval of the compensation package offered. If the Pastor accepts what is offered, that IS NOT charging for preaching the Gospel. And people who actually believe that preaching on Sundays is THE ONLY THING a Pastor does is insanely ignorant of the daily life of a congregational Pastor.

Very few Pastors (percentage wise/world wide - and in the US) actually receive a compensation from the congregation in an amount that would allow them to purchase expensive homes, cars, clothes, jewelry and such. The majority have to find outside employment to support themselves and their families.

Paying for the operational/upkeep of the church building is surely part of what Tithes are for. As well a Offerings. However, it is not the Pastor's responsibility to do this. This responsibility falls directly on the shoulders of the Board of Directors of the Congregation, the Treasurer specifically.

It surely seems people do not have a clear understanding of what is required to purchase, and maintain a church building, and little understanding of how congregational business actually works.

 

[p_rehbein]

You know something...there is really no debate on this.
If you can't see this , there's no way I can make you see it? I guess some things cannot be revealed to a person by flesh and blood. Only the Spirit can pull back the vail.

I'm praying He will do this for you really, really soon

 

[p_rehbein]

It means that we already have the Master, and the Rabbi Lord Yeshua, and that if we are begotten in God, then we have father in Heaven, and that's why we should not call the the one in here earth to our father.

Ok so when New Testament Scriptures speak of our earthly fathers and mothers, and refer to them as our fathers and mothers, the Scriptures are in grave error and not to be believed.

Well, thanks for clearing that up

 

[EdisonTrent]

If you find a church with a sign posted at the door ten dollar cover charge I surely wouldn't enter.

 

[p_rehbein]

If you find a church with a sign posted at the door ten dollar cover charge I surely wouldn't enter.

I agree. And if you find a church congregation that "sells" parking spaces based on the amount a member tithes, I wouldn't enter there either. And, yes, this happens.

But that in no way means that all persons called to the Ministry by God are horrible people.

 

[EdisonTrent]

I agree. And if you find a church congregation that "sells" parking spaces based on the amount a member tithes, I wouldn't enter there either. And, yes, this happens.

But that in no way means that all persons called to the Ministry by God are horrible people.

Agree on the parking space selling there's hidden signs everywhere.
indeed by no means are all ministry confused just don't have gates with a code to punch in to enter the parking lot which I've seen also.