Do you know why you are a protestant???

[mwc68]

I protest! About nothing!! And you'll like it because it's my right!!!!

But agree. LOL

I don't know if you remember me, but about 2 yrs ago I used to be in the Bible Study chatroom. I sometimes played guitar and sang in there and we had some really cool conversations!

 

[Angela53510]

I'm sorry to doubt you. Please accept my apology. The reason i reacted in such a way is, I have been Catholic for 46 yrs and a member of the music team(choir for 16. I have been a choir director for the past 3 Yrs. The reason I questioned your story is because there is a specific time of the Mass called offeratory and preperation of the gifts. This is when money is collected and the altar prepared for the consecration. I have to select long songs for this and I try hard to play contemplative music for this time. In all my 46 Yrs I have never heard of a Catholic Church taking the offering before Mass as you enter the church. What did they do during the offering and preperation part of Mass? I'm sorry if I upset you! I've been pretty upset at the misleading of Church doctrine. This will be my final post on this thread, but I felt strongly I owe you an apology and explanation!

I will admit I have been in Catholic churches many times in my life, with friends and family, and I have only seen money collected during the mass, in collection plates. But then, I just read somewhere about a Southern Baptist Church demanding to know your income, and demanding that you pay 10% of that. I attended a Canadian Southern Baptist church for 5 years, and that never happened. But then, Baptists tend to follow their own scripts, too!

 

[Utah]

I'm sorry to doubt you. Please accept my apology. The reason i reacted in such a way is, I have been Catholic for 46 yrs and a member of the music team(choir for 16. I have been a choir director for the past 3 Yrs. The reason I questioned your story is because there is a specific time of the Mass called offeratory and preperation of the gifts. This is when money is collected and the altar prepared for the consecration. I have to select long songs for this and I try hard to play contemplative music for this time. In all my 46 Yrs I have never heard of a Catholic Church taking the offering before Mass as you enter the church. What did they do during the offering and preperation part of Mass? I'm sorry if I upset you! I've been pretty upset at the misleading of Church doctrine. This will be my final post on this thread, but I felt strongly I owe you an apology and explanation!

It's all good my friend. I like your passion. Think what Christianity would be without passion.

I also apologize for my conduct. Please forgive me.

Just shows that traditions were a little different 90+ years ago in the rural hills of Southwestern Pennsylvania.

God bless you, MC.

 

[just-me]

I don't know if you remember me, but about 2 yrs ago I used to be in the Bible Study chatroom. I sometimes played guitar and sang in there and we had some really cool conversations!

cool! I didn't put it together. Thanks.

 

[mwc68]

It's all good my friend. I like your passion. Think what Christianity would be without passion.

I also apologize for my conduct. Please forgive me.

Just shows that traditions were a little different 90+ years ago in the rural hills of Southwestern Pennsylvania.

God bless you, MC.

Thank You Bro! And God Bless you in all your endeavors!

 

[secularhermit]

Thank You Bro! And God Bless you in all your endeavors!

Hmmm!

I don´t remember WHERE I read a kind musician saying he "never" expected to see good things... When I thought he was giving up...

It was a nightmare I had.

Welcome HOME, my brother.

 

[wattie]

Newsflash!

There were through history, and still are:

* Bible believing, independent christian churches that didn't need to reform and were not catholic either!

Distinctives:

* Baptism by full immersion of believers only
* Re-baptism of people who were 'sprinkled' or who were in a church with wayward teaching.
* Independence and autonomy of God's churches
* Lords supper and tithing practiced
* Belief in deity of Christ
* Belief in one triune God
* Belief the bible is the inerrant, infallible Word of God
* Salvation by grace through faith in Jesus and that it is eternally secure.

Now this may sound at first glance to be a protestant statement of faith.. but how many protestant churches do you know who will re-baptise? How many protestant churches are 'independent and autonomous'?

These churches have been around since the beginning of the New Testament churches. They were nicknamed by others but had no denominational designation.

The equivalent today would be the likes of independent baptist churches...bible baptist churches.. independent missionary baptist churches.. with the name baptist.. but not the same as the baptists that signed up to confessional statements of faith such as 1689.

Anyway.. the point being that

Protestant or Catholic are not the only options for christianity.. there were, and always will be (until the church age ends) independent christian churches that did not need to reform and were never part of catholicism.

Books on this:

The Battle for Baptist History- I.K Cross
The Trail of Blood.. J.M Carroll
Real Churches or a Fog.. S.E Anderson

And Churches in the Valley of Peidemont (Very hard book to find I think though)

 

[skye51]

Then i'll ask you what I asked MWC...

"are you born again? Have you experienced a change in nature from rebellion against God to love for God and His Son Jesus Christ?
Do you love His Word, the bible?"

I have not been baptized although i have never rebelled against god. I drifted away from the church and learn't a few things, now i'm trying to get my life back on track. I now try to live by the bible.

 

[mwc68]

Hmmm!

I don´t remember WHERE I read a kind musician saying he "never" expected to see good things... When I thought he was giving up...

It was a nightmare I had.

Welcome HOME, my brother.

LOL, Thanx!

 

[Willie-T]

Why you are not catholic?? or if you are a Catholic do you know what the other churches disagree??

I'm a Protestant because my grandmother believed Catholics were heathens, and Jews were Jesus killers. (Grandma had herself a bit of an old SBC hang-up.)

I personally don't care too much what other people believe.

 

[KenAllan]

I was re-Baptized by full immersion a long time ago in the Witness Lee Church. I now attend Calvary Chapel.

 

[Grandpa]

I'm a Protestant because my grandmother believed Catholics were heathens, and Jews were Jesus killers. (Grandma had herself a bit of an old SBC hang-up.)

I personally don't care too much what other people believe.

The more I learn about Southern Baptists the more I like them...

 

[p_rehbein]

The more I learn about Southern Baptists the more I like them...

Sarcastic wit?

 

[mwc68]

I was re-Baptized by full immersion a long time ago in the Witness Lee Church. I now attend Calvary Chapel.

I attend Infant Jesus Catholic Church and I am not protesting.

 

[Nautilus]

I grew up methodist, went to a SBC in college and by the end of my freshmen year left that place because man was it terrible. No offense but you baptists are unstandable. Now I go to a non-denominational church around the corner from my house.

 

[atwhatcost]

Yes you can always spot a Roman Catholic by the Horns and Forked Tail. Seriously though very few sane people associate
the RC with paganism which is by and large nature worship. The Catholic Church does adhere to a number of dodgy doctrines and has a very chequered history but the average
pew filler has not trained for the Priesthood, and has a sincere faith. Attacking or avoiding people who think differntly will not convert them to another way of thinking. That goes for anyone of a different religious persuasion.

Is it a bad thing that I just looked behind me and checked the top of my head for horns or a tail? I was born and raised RCC, so maybe it's in the genes. lol

(Just kidding, which I felt free to do since you don't see Catholics as demons either.)

 

[crossnote]

I have not been baptized although i have never rebelled against god. I drifted away from the church and learn't a few things, now i'm trying to get my life back on track. I now try to live by the bible.

To try to 'get your life on track' may be futile without the rebirth and His abiding Holy Spirit giving you strength.
we cannot fulfill God's demands. We all have rebelled against Him.

We come to Calvary where Christ shed His blood for our sins.
Our old man in his futile strength dies there.
He forgives and grants us new Life...a rebirth
His righteousness he freely robes us in,
And fills us with us His Spirit strengthening us and granting us a new heart with new desires.
His Word expounds these truths, call upon the Lord who was raised from the dead and truly know Him.

 

[atwhatcost]

I was born and raised in the Catholic Church.

Long story but I left the Catholic Church in the late 1960's and found a True Christian Church. I have never regretted it.

No, I am not a Protestant. True Christians were given the name Protestants by the Catholics as a way to degrade them way below the Catholics. Therefore I'm not a Protestant, I'm a True Christian, a Child of God, a servant to Jesus Christ who is my Lord and Savior!

Do not let mwc68 get to you. He is a lost Soul who needs guidance in his walk with God. We all need to pray for mwc68 that he will see the Truth in the Bible and turn away from the lies of the Catholic Church like I did 50 years ago.

Get to me? I like MWC!

 

[atwhatcost]

I'm sorry to doubt you. Please accept my apology. The reason i reacted in such a way is, I have been Catholic for 46 yrs and a member of the music team(choir for 16. I have been a choir director for the past 3 Yrs. The reason I questioned your story is because there is a specific time of the Mass called offeratory and preperation of the gifts. This is when money is collected and the altar prepared for the consecration. I have to select long songs for this and I try hard to play contemplative music for this time. In all my 46 Yrs I have never heard of a Catholic Church taking the offering before Mass as you enter the church. What did they do during the offering and preperation part of Mass? I'm sorry if I upset you! I've been pretty upset at the misleading of Church doctrine. This will be my final post on this thread, but I felt strongly I owe you an apology and explanation!

It might be a Jersey thing. (Both Utah and I are from New Jersey.) In my old Catholic Church, we didn't give our offering at the door, but in one of two to three times they passed the basket during mass. Instead, we had to show our little offering envelopes at the door, and they could tell if they were empty. (Each one of us kids had to give a dime a week. Sounds cheap, but it was the 60's, and that dime would have been 20% of our allowance, if Mom didn't feel guilty for only giving us half of our allowance -- the other half was "saved" for Christmas -- so she gave us the dime out of her weekly allowance.) My parents had to show the big envelope at the door. "The big envelope" also had to include our names on it, because it was proving we "deserve" to stay in the Catholic School too. (I don't know if that paid our tuition or if that was above and beyond tuition. I never asked my parents, since family income was never supposed to be understood by us kids.)

After moving out of Jersey, I lived in two other states and a different part of Jersey (different diocese), where none of that ever happened. So, there is a good chance it was just one diocese in Jersey versus a common practice in The Church.

 

[atwhatcost]

In actuality, I am a protesting protestant who has protested against false doctrines that protestant religions have adopted from the RCC.

I protest the protesting protestant who is protesting protestant... huh?

Sorry, thought I could get that whole sentence out, but couldn't. lol But what was swiped from Catholicism?