Catholic Heresy (for the record)

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Similar thing happen in Buddhist boarding house in Indonesia.

Give free housing to the poor. I read Indonesian news paper, the Jakarta vice governor visit this housing and praise the cleanliness this housing.

It doesn't make Buddha not a false religion.

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Emanuela Orlandi, who was 15 at the time of her disappearance, was the daughter of a Vatican employee Photo: Rex






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By Nick Squires, Rome

8:11PM BST 22 May 2012



Father Gabriele Amorth, who was appointed by the late John Paul II as the Vatican's chief exorcist and claims to have performed thousands of exorcisms, said Emanuela Orlandi was later murdered and her body disposed of.

In the latest twist in one of the Holy See's most enduring mysteries, he said the 15-year-old schoolgirl was snatched from the streets of central Rome in the summer of 1983 and forced to take part in sex parties.

"This was a crime with a sexual motive. Parties were organised, with a Vatican gendarme acting as the 'recruiter' of the girls.

"The network involved diplomatic personnel from a foreign embassy to the Holy See. I believe Emanuela ended up a victim of this circle," Father Amorth, the honorary president of the International Association of Exorcists, told La Stampa newspaper.

The debate over who kidnapped Emanuela and what became of her has raged in Italy for three decades.



Jackson, I will remember to pray for you. You need help! 51 and sending messages like a 10 year old. I never had it so bad after all, I got Saved what have you got? A persistent internet troll who lacks love and is Doctrinally void.

If anyone needs prayers its you my friend..


I am hopefully seeing my friend tomorrow at the Catholic Church, like Paul said to win a Gentile he became Gentile to win a Jew he became a Jew. Well to be a friend I visit my friend at a Catholic Church.
I will ask him why in his 50 odd years as a priest and local philanthropist how he is always so polite then I will remember you and remember that Catholics might not be so bad after all, if the likes of you are the alternative.
 

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Jackson, I will remember to pray for you. You need help! 51 and sending messages like a 10 year old. I never had it so bad after all, I got Saved what have you got? A persistent internet troll who lacks love and is Doctrinally void.

If anyone needs prayers its you my friend..


I am hopefully seeing my friend tomorrow at the Catholic Church, like Paul said to win a Gentile he became Gentile to win a Jew he became a Jew. Well to be a friend I visit my friend at a Catholic Church.
I will ask him why in his 50 odd years as a priest and local philanthropist how he is always so polite then I will remember you and remember that Catholics might not be so bad after all, if the likes of you are the alternative.
If you see your son walk toward ravine and you love him would you say to your son, you go to the right direction son.

Keep going and you will be OK. What you do is not so bad.

I am not. I will say that the street he is on, will kill him. And because love I said you in the wrong direction.

I AM glad you pray for me, but for what? I love catholic brother and sister that is why I warn them to run away from Lucifer religion and come to the Lord Jesus.

You pray for me, so I don't love them anymore and stop warn them?

My brother, Why you leave catholic?

Because Catholic is right or because catholic wrong?
 
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Jackson, I will remember to pray for you. You need help! 51 and sending messages like a 10 year old. I never had it so bad after all, I got Saved what have you got? A persistent internet troll who lacks love and is Doctrinally void.

If anyone needs prayers its you my friend..


I am hopefully seeing my friend tomorrow at the Catholic Church, like Paul said to win a Gentile he became Gentile to win a Jew he became a Jew. Well to be a friend I visit my friend at a Catholic Church.
I will ask him why in his 50 odd years as a priest and local philanthropist how he is always so polite then I will remember you and remember that Catholics might not be so bad after all, if the likes of you are the alternative.
I'm sure it will be an edifying converation. :)
 
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There is nothing wrong with Baptizing Infants mwc68. But this is NOT how we receive Salvation. In fact John the Baptist said we needed to repent first then be Baptized.

How can a Infant repent mwc68?

It cannot!

All the people who were Baptized as Infants need to repent and be Baptized again. Because Baptism as Infants does not give them Salvation.
Most of you don't even believe in baptism and point to the thief on the cross. You tell me your baptism is a symbol. I believe differently. Baptism cleanses Original sin. Ths thief did not need this since He was in the presence of God and his sin stain was made clean right there on the cross. You are just going to have to accept we disagree on many levels, concerning this issue
 
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I've got one better than that....the devil wants a new world order also :rolleyes:
 

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I've got one better than that....the devil wants a new world order also :rolleyes:
And they worshipped the dragon [satan]which gave power unto the beast [roman kingdom]:

and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?
 

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-In 1926 Hitler said, “Christ was the greatest early fighter in the battle
against the world enemy, the Jews …. The work that Christ started but
could not finish, I—Adolf Hitler—will conclude”(John Toland, Adolf Hitler).

-His Holiness welcomed Hitler’s representative,Franz von Papen,
most graciously and remarked how pleased he was that the German
government now had at its head a man uncompromisingly opposed to
communism and Russian nihilism in all its forms.

“The Vatican was so appreciative of being recognized as a full partner
that it asked God to bless the Reich.On a more practical level, it ordered
German bishops to swear allegiance to the National Socialist regime.

‘In the performance of my spiritual office and in my solicitude for
the welfare and the interest of the German Reich, I will endeavor
to avoid all detrimental acts which might endanger it’”

-“Then shall his mind change, and he shall passover, and offend,
imputing this his power unto his god.” Habakkuk 1:11 (KJV)

-In 1938, Hitler had brought the insignia of Charlemagne’s First Reich,
the imperial crown, the orb of empire, the scepter and the imperial sword
from Vienna to Nuremberg.

Hitler gave his most “inspired” speeches at the frenzied, torch-lit meetings in there.

tradition of Charlemagne.”Charlemagne was crowned emperor of
the Holy Roman Empire in a.d. 800—the First Reich.

-Hitler considered the Jew to be the devil personified. In truth, the Jews
have been specially commissioned to preserve the oracles of God (Romans 3:1-3)

The oracles include the sacred calendar, knowledge of the biblical week,
including the seventh-day Sabbath, and the Old Testament Scriptures.
 

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Jews suffered at Hitler’s hand more than any other race.

the main victim of the Holy Roman Empire has been
the spiritual Jews—or God’s Church(Revelation 6:9-11; 17:5-6).

-in the Pasewalk Hospital, 1918-1919 that Hitler said (Waite, op. cit.)
He was the leader sent by destiny. He must answer the ‘voices’ that he
said he heard The voices told him to rescue his Motherland from
the Jews who had violated her” .

-After a speech at the Reichstag, an English observer,Maj. Francis Yeats
Brown, said this about Hitler: “During the rhetorical passages his voice
mounted to the pitch of delirium: He was a man transformed and possessed.

We were in the presence of a miracle” It was a supernatural miracle!
Hitler was a “possessed” man.(Toland, op. cit.).

-Observers saw his “domineering manner” and noticed a “new phenomenon
has entered the room.”, this is the same thing people about being in Obamas presence




He will have a “fierce countenance”and compelling, gripping, frightening, hypnotic eyes!
 

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-November 9, 1989, the Berlin Wall fell , east west are joined again.
Berlin Wall - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
East Germany - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
West Berlin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Anciently, the Roman Empire was divided into two regions.
Rome was the capital in the west, Constantinople in the east.

the image of Daniel 2 refers to the two legs of iron being the Roman Empire

-In 1991, Mark Aarons and John Loftus released a book titled
Unholy Trinity, which told the story of how Vatican-sponsored underground
networks illegally smuggled Nazi leaders out of the country after the war.
History of Roman Catholicism in Germany - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

-we should note that throughout the Middle Ages, many scholars, theologians,
even popes, knew the Roman Empire was the fourth world-ruling kingdom.

Many of them even identified this fourth kingdom with the one Daniel spoke
of. That’s why Europeans and Catholics kept trying to revive the empire.

-in the 13th century, a man named Jordan of Osnabrueck wrote a book
about how the Roman Empire was transferred into the hand of the Germans.

when Charlemagne was crowned,the pope called him emperor of the fourth world empire.
Approximately 40 million people were butchered during the so-called Holy Inquisition

The spirit of Charlemagne has returned. This past king who ruled the First
Reich waded through a “sea of blood” to achieve his goal of ruling Europe.

-Many Catholics today don’t like to admit Hitler’s connection with Catholicism
Bernard Connolly wrote a bombshell book in 1995 titled The Rotten Heart of Europe
 

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-In 1996, a shocking World War 2 intelligence document made public,
detailing an August 1944 meeting between top German industrialists,
reveals a secret postwar plan to restore the Nazis to power.

Several of Germany’s elite industries were represented, including Messerschmitt
and Volkswagenwerks.These companies, the document asserts,were to “prepare
themselves to finance the Nazi Party which would be forced to go underground.”

the U.S. government did not make it public until 1996—over 50 years later!

-in 1997, Martin Lee, in his fascinating book, The Beast Reawakens,
revealed that “there had never really been a clean break from the Nazi
past, given that the original leadership of the West German Bundeswehr
was recruited directly from the upper echelons of Hitler’s army.

Only 3 out of 217 Bundeswehr generals in 1976 were not Third Reich veterans,
and 37 military bases in the Bonn Republic were named after soldiers who
made their reputations during the Hitler years.”

-Margaret Thatcher, former British prime minister, said this about the
European Union in October 1995:

“You have not anchored Germany to Europe; you have anchored Europe to a newly dominant,
unified Germany. In the end, my friends,you’ll find it will not work.”
 

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-March 1957 brought a, (The Treaty of Rome), a revival to former rome.
Treaty of Rome - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

officially the Treaty establishing the European Economic Community,
that led to the founding of the European Economic Community (EEC)
European Economic Community - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

signed 25 March 1957 by Belgium,France,Italy,Luxembourg,Netherlands,
and West Germany. Maastricht Treaty followed, amended by
the treaties of Amsterdam, Nice and now Lisbon treaty.
Treaty of Lisbon - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

-In June of 1991, the Bundestag voted to move its capitol from Bonn back
to imperial Berlin, headquarters of the Second and Third Reich.

The Reichstag, Adolf Hitler’s seat of hate,completely renovated in
anticipation of thier. (parliament) to the (Reichstag).
Berlin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Reichstag - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Reichstag - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia building in Berlin
Bundeswehr is the unified armed forces of Germany and their
civil administration and procurement authorities
Bundeswehr - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

a federal authority of Germany. It reports to the Federal Min. of the Interior
Federal Statistical Office of Germany - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal...erior_(Germany)

-on 1 December 2009 upon the entry into force of (the Treaty of Lisbon),
when the EU obtained a consolidated legal personality.

the (Roman empire) is became oficially alive again,in europe (NOW).

The parliamentary term (Reichstag) was first used in association with
the (Holy Roman Empire). the building from where Hitler launched a war that
cost about 50 million lives.

German Parliaments met from 1894 to 1933 and again now since 1999
 

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-The Imperial Regalia, insignia, or crown jewels, the regalia of
the Emperors and Kings of the Holy Roman Empire.

The most important parts are the Imperial Crown,
the (Holy Lance) and the (Imperial Sword).
Holy Lance - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Holy Lance is preserved beneath the dome of Saint Peter's Basilica,
the name given to the lance that they[they say] pierced the side of Jesus
Crown of Charlemagne - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Imperial Sword - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

All four parts of the Imperial Regalia are displayed,
they are used in current coronations.
Imperial Regalia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

-When Napoleon proclaimed himself Emperor of France, he also called
his own imperial crown the "Crown of Charlemagne".
 

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-one of the first conquest of this new power[starting ww3]

strongly opposed by the European Economic Community, the U.S.and
the UN, Germany recognized the breakaway states of Croatia and
Slovenia. also Pope John Paul ii quickly did the same.

European Economic Community caved and recognized the two states.
The New York Times wrote about this watershed event in a front-page

Moving Defiantly on Yugoslavia, Bonn Threatens Rift With Allies - NYTimes.com

-The UN also backed away from a direct confrontation with Kohl.
And the U.S., which at first blamed the Germans for provoking
the Balkan crisis by recognizing the two breakaway states, eventually
flip-flopped to support Germany’s decision!

now putin wants it back, and will fight for it
 

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7 unholy roman empire unions

The last seven heads, or resurrections, were prophesied to be guided by a great church.
That is how church and state get the name “Holy” Roman Empire.
Holy Roman Empire - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Coronation of the Holy Roman Emperor - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

1st resurrection - Justinian in 554AD. the pope recognized as the supreme religious leader.
Justinian I - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Justinian the Great, was a Byzantine (East Roman) emperor from 527 to 565. During his reign,
Justinian sought to revive the empire's greatness and reconquer the lost western half of
the historical Roman Empire.

The cognomen Iustinianus which he took later is indicative of adoption by his uncle Justin
Cognomen - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

2nd resurrection - Charlemagne crowned by the pope in 800AD.
Charlemagne - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Charlemagne reached the height of his power in 800 when he was crowned "emperor"
by Pope Leo III on Christmas Day at Old St. Peter's Basilica.

Called the "Father of Europe", Charlemagne united most of Western Europe for the first time
since the Roman Empire.

3rd resurrection - Otto the Great crowned by the pope in 962AD.
Otto I, Holy Roman Emperor - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Otto I (23 November 912 – 7 May 973), also known as Otto the Great, was German king
from 936 and emperor of the Holy Roman Empire from 962 until his death in 973.

Following the example of Charlemagne's coronation as "Emperor of the Romans"
in 800, Otto was crowned Emperor in 962 by Pope John XII in Rome.

4th resurrection - Charles V crowned by the pope in 1520AD.
Charles V, Holy Roman Emperor - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

5th resurrection - Napoleon crowned by the pope in 1805
Napoleon - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Coronation of Napoleon I - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

6th resurrection - Hitler/Mussolini empowered by Pope Pius XII.
Pope Pius XII and the Holocaust - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Some post-war critics have accused Pius of either being overly cautious, or of "not doing enough,"
or even of "silence" in the face of the Holocaust.
hitler/mussolini empowered by pope pius xii - Bing Images

one was, one is, one yet to come
 
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Oh darn, Prove-all has contracted Cut-and-paste Fever.
I suspect the only remedy is amputation of the fingers.
 

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Most of you don't even believe in baptism and point to the thief on the cross. You tell me your baptism is a symbol. I believe differently. Baptism cleanses Original sin. Ths thief did not need this since He was in the presence of God and his sin stain was made clean right there on the cross. You are just going to have to accept we disagree on many levels, concerning this issue
The belief that baptism cleanses from original sin is so much mumbo jumbo. If it were true children in churches which baptised infants would be better behaved and more receptive than children in other churches which is patently not so. It is just one more of those imaginary ideas that the Roman Catholic church invented in order to control people's lives and force them to do what the Roman Catholic church wanted. To suggest that man controls the means of cleansing from sin is blasphemy. This is why, in spite of your protestations , I question whether you are truly saved.
 

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Oh darn, Prove-all has contracted Cut-and-paste Fever.
I suspect the only remedy is amputation of the fingers.
sorry, I had an attack of restless finger syndrum last night, much better today,

but I never know when it might flareup again on me.
 
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Most of you don't even believe in baptism and point to the thief on the cross. You tell me your baptism is a symbol. I believe differently. Baptism cleanses Original sin. Ths thief did not need this since He was in the presence of God and his sin stain was made clean right there on the cross. You are just going to have to accept we disagree on many levels, concerning this issue

Paul said, "For Christ did not send me to baptize, but to preach the gospel." (1 Corinthians 1:17)

That's a strange thing to say if baptism was included in the gospel.

Others were saved apart from baptism, not just the thief on the cross:

The Penitent Woman (Luke 7:37-50)

The Paralytic Man (Matthew 9:2)

The Publican (Luke 18:13,14)

In Acts 10:44-48, Cornelius and those with him were all saved before baptism.

They all experienced forgiveness of sins apart from baptism. For that matter, we have no record of the Apostles being baptized, yet Jesus pronounced them clean of their sins. (John 15:3)
 
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Where in the Scriptures mwc68 does the Holy Spirit claim Baptism washes you clean of Original Sin? Why are you always quoting from Satan and not from the Scriptures mwc68?
 
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100% of everything mwc68 says is not in the Scriptures.

How can you claim to have received Jesus Christ in your heart and then teach the Doctrines of Demons? All you are showing mwc68 is your ignorance in what the Holy Spirit teaches in the Scriptures.

No one who has the Indwelling of the Holy Spirit will ever teach the opposite of what the Scriptures say.

The Thief on the cross proves we receive Salvation by Faith and Grace. It also proves we do not need to be Baptized to receive Salvation.

Luke 23:39-43
[SUP]39 [/SUP] Then one of the criminals who were hanged blasphemed Him, saying, "If You are the Christ, save Yourself and us."
[SUP]40 [/SUP] But the other, answering, rebuked him, saying, "Do you not even fear God, seeing you are under the same condemnation?
[SUP]41 [/SUP] And we indeed justly, for we receive the due reward of our deeds; but this Man has done nothing wrong."
[SUP]42 [/SUP] Then he said to Jesus, "Lord, remember me when You come into Your kingdom."
[SUP]43 [/SUP] And Jesus said to him, "Assuredly, I say to you, today you will be with Me in Paradise."

The stain of sin is also made up by the Catholic Church. No where in the Scriptures does God say we have to work off our stain of our sins. In fact God does say He cleanses us of our "stain" of our sins.

1 John 1:9
[SUP]9 [/SUP] If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

Cleanse us from all unrighteousness is the washing away the stain of our sins mwc68.

So why do you hate what God say? Could it be you have never received Salvation and are trying to deceive us into following your God Satan?

Repent mwc68 and receive Salvation and then be Baptized by full immersion, not sprinkled like the Catholic Church teaches.