GRRRRRRRRR. I am so angry right now at FAKE preachers who say homosexuality is OK!

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Budman

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#61
Homosexuality is a sin but so what
If someone wants to be a homosexual then I do not care
Those two statements are incredibly disturbing.

Homosexuality is hardly mentioned in the Bible

How many times must God call something a sin, for it to be a sin?


Once.
 
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Biblelogic01

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#62
I am an avid reader. I was browsing through the ebooks on amazon. I was curious about how many Christians preach against homosexuality (it is the rage of the moment). I found DISTURBING books where the authors who claims to be Christians say that homosexuality is acceptable!

Seriously?
These fake preachers and Christians are the ones who mislead the masses. Jesus warned them about the consequences of making His little ones lose faith. I wonder if they write it for money or for getting popular. Why would anyone promote sins? :(

What about the danger of this fake gospels affecting those baby Christians who are getting to know God?!


2 Timothy 4:1-5

I charge you therefore before God and the Lord Jesus Christ, who will judge the living and the dead at[SUP][a][/SUP] His appearing and His kingdom: [SUP]2 [/SUP]Preach the word! Be ready in season and out of season. Convince, rebuke, exhort, with all longsuffering and teaching. [SUP]3 [/SUP]For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine, but according to their own desires, because they have itching ears, they will heap up for themselves teachers; [SUP]4 [/SUP]and they will turn their ears away from the truth, and be turned aside to fables. [SUP]5 [/SUP]But you be watchful in all things, endure afflictions, do the work of an evangelist, fulfill your ministry.
 
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3Scoreand10

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#63
Are you also angry about fake pastors that devour widows houses? The homo thing is obvious. The robbing of the widows is not as obvious to mang Christians. I say the second is far more aggregious!
Names and places please.
If you can, please give us names of these pastors and where they live so we can confront them.
 
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bondservant

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#64
You have to look for the good in any bad.....I went to witness to some gay men that hang around cross town.....I wasn't well received in my message, they went to hit me with whatever they had in their hands.....I thank god for purses.
 
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Mitspa

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#65
Are you angry as in righteous indignation? Do you hurt for these people, realizing God has so much more for them (the homosexuals)? Are you coming from a place of love and grace, extending the grace that God has given you to them? When you see a homosexual do you see condemned, or do you see a person Jesus died for, and that that person's issue isn't so much their sins but their particular sin of disbelief in Jesus Christ that took their sins away?

I see that you are frustrated with the condoning of sin, but what should more be on your mind is that people are so sin conscious that they aren't looking at Jesus. They aren't beholding Him and being transformed. Remember, we grow in the grace and knowledge of Jesus Christ. Their sin was dealt with at the cross, they only need to sign the check. They are forgiven, but aren't aware of that yet, they need to accept that forgiveness, just as you need to cash a check to receive finances. No, that is not universal-ism, they aren't forgiven until they believe in the Lord. Thats why we share the Gospel, otherwise if everyone was saved, we wouldn't need to preach at all.

I guess my point is the gift of no condemnation. A revelation of that, of God's goodness, is what leads men to repentance, and so I hope your anger is coming from the right place and not one of condemnation but rather a hurting for these people knowing God loves them and wants so much more for them.
Brother the truth of the gospel all works together...you cant help folks see their need for a Savoir from their sins, if your not honest about what is sin. Telling a homosexual they don't need to repent and turn from their sin, is not a revelation of Gods goodness nor His love.
 
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skylove7

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#66
Oh dear God!
My friends...just when I thought people couldnt get more nasty.

My sister just told me at a gay pride march in Virginia

She said there was a gay man dressed as Jesus with a cross on his back

And gay men was french kissing him

Im sick!

She said its on face book

Im not watching it
I refuse!
 
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skylove7

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#67
Btw...if anyone does find this video
I beg u dont post it

Im sick!
 
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Samual

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#68
I am an avid reader. I was browsing through the ebooks on amazon. I was curious about how many Christians preach against homosexuality (it is the rage of the moment). I found DISTURBING books where the authors who claims to be Christians say that homosexuality is acceptable!

Seriously?
These fake preachers and Christians are the ones who mislead the masses. Jesus warned them about the consequences of making His little ones lose faith. I wonder if they write it for money or for getting popular. Why would anyone promote sins? :(

What about the danger of this fake gospels affecting those baby Christians who are getting to know God?!
I've seen christians that are gay. My point here being is, try listening to the preaching of Clayton Jennings. Focus on how to better your own relationship with God, and how to correct your own life, rather than that of others. They do not say we can't be christians, so it's none of our business who they want to marry
 

crossnote

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Nov 24, 2012
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#69
I've seen christians that are gay. My point here being is, try listening to the preaching of Clayton Jennings. Focus on how to better your own relationship with God, and how to correct your own life, rather than that of others. They do not say we can't be christians, so it's none of our business who they want to marry
Again, in God's book, it simply isn't marriage. Let them call it what they want.
 
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2 Timothy 4:1-5

I charge you therefore before God and the Lord Jesus Christ, who will judge the living and the dead at[SUP][a][/SUP] His appearing and His kingdom: [SUP]2 [/SUP]Preach the word! Be ready in season and out of season. Convince, rebuke, exhort, with all longsuffering and teaching. [SUP]3 [/SUP]For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine, but according to their own desires, because they have itching ears, they will heap up for themselves teachers; [SUP]4 [/SUP]and they will turn their ears away from the truth, and be turned aside to fables. [SUP]5 [/SUP]But you be watchful in all things, endure afflictions, do the work of an evangelist, fulfill your ministry.
Thank you for that, which is the 'wisest spiritual' service, you have undertaken, in 'AGAPE', "Freely, freely, you have received, freely, freely, you give", which you are indeed giving to us, as to 'first', we are to, "Workout our own salvation in fear and trembling", before the 'dividing' of Christian 'goats' to the 'left' and Christian 'sheep' to the 'right', by CHRIST on the the 'judgement seat' to come, by the 'measure' of our 'practices' and 'abiding' to HIS word/teaching of the written. given, taught and made New Covenant/Testament, by the 'Helper', the HOLY SPIRIT, sent by CHRIST Himself.

This is what JESUS is going to leave with us regarding this 'Tread' posted and it's people who are claiming to be HIS 'believers' and 'witnesses' saved according grace and Truth, who continuing on and on again, in "Ever learning and never come to the knowledge of the truth", to act on them for now and calling them for repentance, given as 'a reminder' and 'a stir up of memory' in order we may all respond wisely to HIM. knowing one day we may also, like 'unbelievers', have to give and account to, that;

"If anyone here have not sinned, may cast the 'first stone' at her."

"Even prostitutes and tax collectors shall get into the Kingdom of GOD."


Therefore who are the 'homosexuals' and how does the prodigal son's Father look forward for His prodigal son (even daughters), in continuous 'complain, murmur and grumble about their wrong doings, henceforth also based on the Gospel, where GOD;s Power and Wisdom is for everyone's Salvation?

Based on all of this 'as it is written' that JESUS leaves with us and taught us and keep on 'reminding us' and 'stir up our memories' about them, which are HIS word/teaching of 'spirit' and 'life' acting for our unfailing faith, JESUS confessed on behalf of all the 'perverts', while helplessly and hopelessly, as seemingly to them, HE was hanging on the Cross, as HE is also seemingly now to the 'perverts' today, even to the 'perverts' ignorant to HIS word/teaching of the New Covenant/Testament, the non-believers, HE will only say meantime 'bearing all things in AGAPE', knowing and faithful to the FATHER of many 'prodigal sons (even daughters) who still awaits at the 'door', 'hoping' for all of their return in peace, that;

"FATHER forgive them, they knew not what they do."

Didn't JESUS once did that same prayer for us, when we were as non-believer and perverts against GOD at one time, like the ones today, whom we seem to 'casually' cast stones at, by ignoring the fact that, sadly they are still in their 'debased thinking' and as 'perverts' against GOD and they desperately and dyingly need, from our repentance attitude the service of the Gospel of Salvation for their Salvation, even though we may die getting killed, in their continuous 'ignorance' ?

Even our 'lives' may be taken 'unjustly' by the 'guilty', haven't we learned to even realize that we may have 'saved' by GOD's will perhaps, one or two or some repenting 'perverted soul' and not all, that day?

Please i beg of you to first 'examine' ourselves, If we are not 'perverts' ourselves in our 'thinking' and 'works according to them'? Are they of carnal/flesh/self's passions and desires or of the word/teaching of the New Covenant/Testament in 'practices' and 'abiding' all the time and 'bear much good fruit'?

Please respond 'wisely' to our LORD JESUS CHRIST who have 'hinted' these things that are 'lingering' and 'on going', that grieves HIS HOLY SPIRIT placed in us, during HIS absents here and know for sure cautiously, not at all to me, who have been only in your AGAPE service and as only HIS 'unworthy servant'.

Thank you and may the Good GOD the FATHER of our LORD JESUS CHRIST bless you all with HIS kindness and peace.
 

Dan58

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Nov 13, 2013
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People have always used the bible to justify themselves. They conveniently re-interpret scripture to suit themselves and condone their behavior. The new PC preaching is designed to make people feel good about themselves. Audiences find motivational speakers inspirational, and when the crowd is pleased with what they hear, the money rolls in. The bible clearly prohibits homosexual behavior (Leviticus 18:22, Leviticus 20:13, Romans 1:25-27, 1 Corinthians 6:9-11, 1 Timothy 1:9-10). But hey, if the crowd is uplifted by a preacher who's green lighting gay marriage, what's the bible got to do with it anyway? The objective is to open their wallets, so the message is "God loves you just the way you are".

There are 2 liberal interpretations of Leviticus 18:22 and Leviticus 20:13.

"Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination" (Leviticus 18:22).
A Rabbi told me the prohibition in Leviticus 18 referred to inter-family relationships. The whole chapter is about unlawful sexual unions between relatives. The subject is set in vs 6; "None of you shall approach to any that is near of kin to him, to uncover their nakedness: I am the Lord" (Leviticus 18:6). So in the Rabbi's opinion, "mankind" meant someone who was kin to you. It was not a law against 2 unrelated males, but in-laws etc.

"If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them" (Leviticus 20:13)
The same non-orthodox Rabbi interpreted this prohibition as referring to ritualistic behavior. The first 6 verses of the chapter set the subject, the pagan prostitutes of surrounding tribes would perform unnatural homosexual acts at their temple, this was symbolic of giving their seed to their god Molech. So in the Rabbi's opinion, this was not applicable to people born gay, but for the strait males who indulged in perverted sexual acts in the worship of Molech. God did not want the Israelites to emulate those pagan practices.

I personally don't agree with either view, but thought I'd mention how some justify homosexuality. The good Rabbi also quoted Romans 1:23&24; "And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves". He claimed Paul was also referring to idolatry, and the reason God gave them over to the lustful perversions of idol worship. Why a Rabbi read the new testament, I don't know?







 
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People have always used the bible to justify themselves. They conveniently re-interpret scripture to suit themselves and condone their behavior. The new PC preaching is designed to make people feel good about themselves. Audiences find motivational speakers inspirational, and when the crowd is pleased with what they hear, the money rolls in. The bible clearly prohibits homosexual behavior (Leviticus 18:22, Leviticus 20:13, Romans 1:25-27, 1 Corinthians 6:9-11, 1 Timothy 1:9-10). But hey, if the crowd is uplifted by a preacher who's green lighting gay marriage, what's the bible got to do with it anyway? The objective is to open their wallets, so the message is "God loves you just the way you are".

There are 2 liberal interpretations of Leviticus 18:22 and Leviticus 20:13.

"Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination" (Leviticus 18:22).
A Rabbi told me the prohibition in Leviticus 18 referred to inter-family relationships. The whole chapter is about unlawful sexual unions between relatives. The subject is set in vs 6; "None of you shall approach to any that is near of kin to him, to uncover their nakedness: I am the Lord" (Leviticus 18:6). So in the Rabbi's opinion, "mankind" meant someone who was kin to you. It was not a law against 2 unrelated males, but in-laws etc.

"If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them" (Leviticus 20:13)
The same non-orthodox Rabbi interpreted this prohibition as referring to ritualistic behavior. The first 6 verses of the chapter set the subject, the pagan prostitutes of surrounding tribes would perform unnatural homosexual acts at their temple, this was symbolic of giving their seed to their god Molech. So in the Rabbi's opinion, this was not applicable to people born gay, but for the strait males who indulged in perverted sexual acts in the worship of Molech. God did not want the Israelites to emulate those pagan practices.

I personally don't agree with either view, but thought I'd mention how some justify homosexuality. The good Rabbi also quoted Romans 1:23&24; "And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves". He claimed Paul was also referring to idolatry, and the reason God gave them over to the lustful perversions of idol worship. Why a Rabbi read the new testament, I don't know?







Thank you and may the Good GOD bless all and you with HIS kindness and peace.
 
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Mitspa

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#73
I've seen christians that are gay. My point here being is, try listening to the preaching of Clayton Jennings. Focus on how to better your own relationship with God, and how to correct your own life, rather than that of others. They do not say we can't be christians, so it's none of our business who they want to marry
Well if you believe the bible, you have not seen "Christians" that are gay?
do you believe the bible or some guy named clayton?
 
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Mitspa

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#74
Thank you for that, which is the 'wisest spiritual' service, you have undertaken, in 'AGAPE', "Freely, freely, you have received, freely, freely, you give", which you are indeed giving to us, as to 'first', we are to, "Workout our own salvation in fear and trembling", before the 'dividing' of Christian 'goats' to the 'left' and Christian 'sheep' to the 'right', by CHRIST on the the 'judgement seat' to come, by the 'measure' of our 'practices' and 'abiding' to HIS word/teaching of the written. given, taught and made New Covenant/Testament, by the 'Helper', the HOLY SPIRIT, sent by CHRIST Himself.

This is what JESUS is going to leave with us regarding this 'Tread' posted and it's people who are claiming to be HIS 'believers' and 'witnesses' saved according grace and Truth, who continuing on and on again, in "Ever learning and never come to the knowledge of the truth", to act on them for now and calling them for repentance, given as 'a reminder' and 'a stir up of memory' in order we may all respond wisely to HIM. knowing one day we may also, like 'unbelievers', have to give and account to, that;

"If anyone here have not sinned, may cast the 'first stone' at her."

"Even prostitutes and tax collectors shall get into the Kingdom of GOD."


Therefore who are the 'homosexuals' and how does the prodigal son's Father look forward for His prodigal son (even daughters), in continuous 'complain, murmur and grumble about their wrong doings, henceforth also based on the Gospel, where GOD;s Power and Wisdom is for everyone's Salvation?

Based on all of this 'as it is written' that JESUS leaves with us and taught us and keep on 'reminding us' and 'stir up our memories' about them, which are HIS word/teaching of 'spirit' and 'life' acting for our unfailing faith, JESUS confessed on behalf of all the 'perverts', while helplessly and hopelessly, as seemingly to them, HE was hanging on the Cross, as HE is also seemingly now to the 'perverts' today, even to the 'perverts' ignorant to HIS word/teaching of the New Covenant/Testament, the non-believers, HE will only say meantime 'bearing all things in AGAPE', knowing and faithful to the FATHER of many 'prodigal sons (even daughters) who still awaits at the 'door', 'hoping' for all of their return in peace, that;

"FATHER forgive them, they knew not what they do."

Didn't JESUS once did that same prayer for us, when we were as non-believer and perverts against GOD at one time, like the ones today, whom we seem to 'casually' cast stones at, by ignoring the fact that, sadly they are still in their 'debased thinking' and as 'perverts' against GOD and they desperately and dyingly need, from our repentance attitude the service of the Gospel of Salvation for their Salvation, even though we may die getting killed, in their continuous 'ignorance' ?

Even our 'lives' may be taken 'unjustly' by the 'guilty', haven't we learned to even realize that we may have 'saved' by GOD's will perhaps, one or two or some repenting 'perverted soul' and not all, that day?

Please i beg of you to first 'examine' ourselves, If we are not 'perverts' ourselves in our 'thinking' and 'works according to them'? Are they of carnal/flesh/self's passions and desires or of the word/teaching of the New Covenant/Testament in 'practices' and 'abiding' all the time and 'bear much good fruit'?

Please respond 'wisely' to our LORD JESUS CHRIST who have 'hinted' these things that are 'lingering' and 'on going', that grieves HIS HOLY SPIRIT placed in us, during HIS absents here and know for sure cautiously, not at all to me, who have been only in your AGAPE service and as only HIS 'unworthy servant'.

Thank you and may the Good GOD the FATHER of our LORD JESUS CHRIST bless you all with HIS kindness and peace.
The reason the harlot can see the kingdom before the hypocrite is because they can see and admit their sin and need for Christ as their Savior...What we have is a group that denies there sin and a group of so-called Christians who are helping them to deceive themselves.
 
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ORly

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#75
I am an avid reader. I was browsing through the ebooks on amazon. I was curious about how many Christians preach against homosexuality (it is the rage of the moment). I found DISTURBING books where the authors who claims to be Christians say that homosexuality is acceptable!

Seriously?
These fake preachers and Christians are the ones who mislead the masses. Jesus warned them about the consequences of making His little ones lose faith. I wonder if they write it for money or for getting popular. Why would anyone promote sins? :(

What about the danger of this fake gospels affecting those baby Christians who are getting to know God?!
I was never one to care much about homosexuality and in fact am friends with a few of them as i try to show them the love of Christ in me. Yet ever since this supreme court decision something has changed; not just the law, but also the society as well as myself.

I cant watch any tv anymore because it all disgusts me.
I have a hard time looking at those gay friends without feeling revulsion and anger.

my question is, can Jesus hurry up and cond5apla
 
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ORly

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#76
btw cond5apla is special language that i dont know how it got there that is supposed to read come back
 
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sparkman

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#77
These preachers simply announce their counterfeit nature by such things.

I think the recent Supreme Court ruling will force the church to take sides, and will result in identification of the tares and goats amongst us.


I am an avid reader. I was browsing through the ebooks on amazon. I was curious about how many Christians preach against homosexuality (it is the rage of the moment). I found DISTURBING books where the authors who claims to be Christians say that homosexuality is acceptable!

Seriously?
These fake preachers and Christians are the ones who mislead the masses. Jesus warned them about the consequences of making His little ones lose faith. I wonder if they write it for money or for getting popular. Why would anyone promote sins? :(

What about the danger of this fake gospels affecting those baby Christians who are getting to know God?!
 
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BabyTeddy79

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#78
You have to look for the good in any bad.....I went to witness to some gay men that hang around cross town.....I wasn't well received in my message, they went to hit me with whatever they had in their hands.....I thank god for purses.
Man!!!! You are so funny!
"I thank God for purses."
Man! That's hilarious!
 
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BabyTeddy79

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#79
Oh dear God!
My friends...just when I thought people couldnt get more nasty.

My sister just told me at a gay pride march in Virginia

She said there was a gay man dressed as Jesus with a cross on his back

And gay men was french kissing him

Im sick!

She said its on face book

Im not watching it
I refuse!

That's nasty! ATROCIOUS!