WHY DID GOD CREATE THE UNIVERSE?

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In the first chapter, the Moffatt translation of the Bible renders the
Greek word translated “all things” as “the universe.”
In other words, for those willing to believe what God says, He says that
He has decreed the entire universe—with all its galaxies, its countless suns
and planets—everything—will be put under man’s subjection.
the next words in the same eighth verse: “But now we see
not yet all things [the endless universe] put under him [man].”
Remember (verse 5), this is speaking of the “world to come”—not today’s world.
But what do we see now, today?
“But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels [or, “for a little
while lower”] for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour.”

Man, other than Christ, is not yet “crowned with glory and honour.”

But see how Christ is already crowned with glory and honor. Continue:
“For it became him, for whom are all things [the entire universe] and by whom
are all things, in bringing many sons unto glory, to make the captain of their salvation
perfect through sufferings … for which cause he [Christ] is not ashamed
to call them brethren” (verses 10-11).
In other words, Christians having God’s Spirit are joint-heirs with Christ
to inherit all that Christ already has inherited. He is now in glory! He has
already inherited the entire universe.
He sustains it by His power. Man, if he is converted, having God’s Holy Spirit
(Romans 8:9), is now only an heir—not yet a possessor.

crowned with glory and honor—and is already in possession—has already inherited.
Begin with Hebrews, chapter 1:
“God … hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath
appointed heir of all things [the entire universe], by whom also he made the
worlds; who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his
person, and upholding [sustaining] all things [the entire universe] by the word
of his power …” (Hebrews 1:1-3).
The living Christ already sustains the entire universe by His limitless
divine power. The passage continues to show His superiority over the angels:
He is the begotten and born Son of God—
angels are merely individually created beings. Angels are now
administering spirits (invisible to us), ministering to us—
to us who are now in lower status than angels, but who are heirs of salvation,
when we, like Christ, shall become born sons of God (Hebrews 1:4-14).
that he might be the firstborn among many brethren” (Romans 8:29).
Humans having God’s Holy Spirit are heirs of God and joint-heirs with Christ—
who, alone of all humans, has already been born as God’s Son by a resurrection
from the dead (Romans 1:4). He is the first of the human family to be born
into the Family of God—the Kingdom of God.
We shall follow at the resurrection of the just at Christ’s return to
Earth in supreme power and glory.

“For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the
sons of God …. The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit,
that we are the children of God: and if children, then heirs; heirs of God,
and joint-heirs with Christ, if so be that we [in this life] suffer with him,
that we may be also glorified together.
For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be
compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us …” (Romans 8:14-18).
“For the creation waits with eager longing for the revealing of the
sons of God; for the creation [all the suns, planets, stars, moons]
was subjected to futility, not of its own will but by the will of him who
subjected it in hope;because the creation itself will be set free from its
bondage to decay and obtain the glorious liberty of the children of God.
We know that the whole creation [stars, suns and moons now in decay and futility]
has been groaning in travail together until now; and not only the creation but we ourselves
[we Spirit-begotten humans], who have the first fruits of the Spirit [the very few now
being called to salvation—the “firstfruits”] groan inwardly as we wait for the [birth] as sons”.
At His return to Earth in power and glory
those who have been converted and received God’s Holy Spirit
shall be born into the God Family by a resurrection.
Then the entire universe will be put into subjection under them!
Why should the whole universe—the creation—be waiting with eager longing
for the actual birth and appearing of all these sons of God,
to be born into the Family of God?

“Because the creation itself [the universe not now capable of
sustaining life] will be set free from its bondage to decay
and obtain the glorious liberty
“For thus saith the Lord that created the heavens;
God himself that formed the earth and made it; he hath established it,
he created it not in vain, he formed it to be inhabited:
I am the Lord; and there is none else.”

God says that the universe—not just the Earth—was designed to be inhabited.
It wasn’t created in vain, to be simply an ornament. It was created for a purpose.
 

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In Isaiah 51:16, God says, “And I have put my words in thy mouth,
and I have covered thee in the shadow of mine hand,
that I may (plant the heavens), and lay the foundations of the earth,
and say unto Zion, Thou art my people.”

God intends to “plant the heavens.”Think about what that is saying.
When you plant something, that means you are laying down seeds
that you expect to grow into a crop.

This Hebrew word, nata, is the same word used in Genesis 2:8
to say that God planted a garden in Eden.
Noah planted a vineyard in Genesis 9:20.
Abraham planted a tree in Genesis 21:33.

Isaiah 51:16 tells us that God is going to plant the heavens—
the abode of the stars—the universe! He is going to seed it with life,
expecting that it will grow into a greater, more impressive harvest in time!
governed by God from Jersulam

For this corruptible must put on incorruption,
and this mortal must put on immortality”
We will actually have the same glorious spirit body that God has (Philippians 3:21).

Why did God create us after His likeness—to look like Himself? (Genesis 1:26).
Because He is actually fashioning us into Spirit-born sons of God!
Those who are transformed into spirit essence will look like Christ.

“For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death,
we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection” (Romans 6:5).
“And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear
the image of the heavenly” (1 Corinthians 15:49).

A description of Jesus Christ in His glorified form is given in Revelation 1:14-16.
To be joint-heirs along with Jesus Christ and to actually look as He does,
with our faces shining as bright as the sun, is difficult to comprehend.
But this is exactly what God has promised to give His sons who
overcome! (Revelation 21:7). And God cannot lie (Titus 1:2).

“Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we
shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, WE SHALL BE LIKE HIM;
for we shall see him as he is” (1 John 3:2).


To fly from one edge of our galaxy to the other at light speed non-stop would
take you 100,000 years. It would take the 35,000-mph Voyager more than 660
million years.The Milky Way, with its billions of stars and trillions
of planets, is just one of billions of other galaxies discovered so far.
Astronomers have no idea how much more is beyond.

Jeremiah 31:37 and other scriptures imply that the heavens cannot be
measured. “The heavens declare the glory of God.”

The Father of Lights “Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above,
and cometh down from the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness,
neither shadow of turning” (James 1:17).



just something to ponder and think about
 
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Greetings My first post of introduction

Why did God create the physical universe, and is heavenly life a plan B because Plan A failed. Or was God’s original purpose plan B to begin with. Was man to live eternally on earth in paradise free of sin, suffering and death because Adam and Eve at the forbidden fruit? Or was the only thing the couple lost in the beginning was separation, spiritual death, from God proved by their eviction from the Garden of Eden.
Firstly, glad you came to this board.
Secondly, I have to chuckle when I read this posit.
You're asking a human why God did something?:D
 

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It tells us He created it to be inhabited, that means He wanted it to be filled with life. Creation was not an after thought, He knew us before we were created. So when God created we were on His mind.
The only thing this does is tell us the function of the earth. It does not tell us WHY God created the material universe.
 
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In my career as a scientist I suspect that the majority of those I met had a religious faith and the majority of those were Christian. The vey nature of science is that it constrained to work only with observable physical evidence. The supernatural world inaccessible to direct scientific observation or investigation. As a consequence science can say absolutely nothing either positive or negative about God or the supernatural world. When a scientist makes a statement about God, they are no longer speaking as a scientist. I have also found most scientist to be very honest people. This explains why they get very frustrated and even angry when they encounter people making statements about science out of ignorance or even maliciously telling lies.
 
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Answer to OP~ #1for his glory#2 God doesnt make mistakes #3 God knew what would happen
 

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the universe, the world to come, I could only imange..
disclaimer: this was parts of a article-

our Awesome universe potential-

that was made by a group, labeled a cult for this view.

because they say mabe this could happen, but we can only imangen.

p.s. sorry about my spelling and grammer.
 
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And God said, Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; and let them have dominion...
And there was evening and there was morning, the sixth day.

Thus declares Jehovah, who stretches forth the heavens and lays the foundation of the earth and forms the spirit of man within him...

Thus says Jehovah, Heaven is My throne, and the earth the footstool for My feet. where then is the house that you will build for Me, and where is the place of My rest?....But to this kind of man will I look, to him who is poor and of a contrite spirit, and who...

For the anxious watching of the creation eagerly awaits the revelation of the sons of God
 
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WHY DID GOD CREATE THE UNIVERSE?

We do not know. Scripture does not provide us with this information.
Well, it does, in part. God willed it.

By implication, since God is good, we can also conclude it was for a good purpose.
 

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In my career as a scientist I suspect that the majority of those I met had a religious fanith and the majority of those were Christian. The vey nature of science is that it constrained to work only with observable physical evidence. The supernatural world inaccessible to direct scientific observation or investigation. As a consequence science can say absolutely nothing either positive or negative about God or the supernatural world. When a scientist makes a statement about God, they are no longer speaking as a scientist. I have also found most scientist to be very honest people. This explains why they get very frustrated and even angry when they encounter people making statements about science out of ignorance or even maliciously telling lies.
Equally when scientists make negative comments about what God has revealed, albeit, there are some scientists who have faith.
 

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Did the OP abdicate? hehe.
 
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Equally when scientists make negative comments about what God has revealed, albeit, there are some scientists who have faith.
When a scientist makes such a comment it is obvious that they are speaking as private person and not as a scientist and certainly not for the global community of scientists.
 
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Revelation 4:11
king James version(kjv)

11.)Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power:for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created.
 
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Kaycie

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God knows all things even before they happen. God knew man would sin before He created the earth. That is why He didn't create us in Heaven, because He knew we would sin. He created us and a place for us because He wants beings who would love Him of their own free will, despite physical hardships. We are made for God's good pleasure. He valued the obedient ones so much that He was willing to sacrifice His one and only Son in order to salvage them.
 

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"For who has known the mind of the Lord
Or who has been his counselor?" Romans 11:34
 
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Greetings Richie

Hello.

Because He can and He had a plan?


I personally doubt that, I think that would make God's creation purposeless, why create a universe perfectly adapted for plant life (food) man and animals and creatures and then to suffer and then go to heaven or a fieryhell?


Paradise sounds really nice, I think this earth has great potential to be something really special but right now and for quite some time it is basicaly a stinking corrupt dump, something has gone wrong?

There appears to be a command from God and the first man and woman disobeyed God's command, also mankind causes much of the suffering here on earth.

Depending on how one sees things they lost much much more.
Just curious where does Jesus or the Apostles speak of a paradise earth outside of the symbolic book of Revelation, and was this the Gospel message. 1 Corinthians 15:1-4

Regards, Larry
 
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Just curious where does Jesus or the Apostles speak of a paradise earth outside of the symbolic book of Revelation, and was this the Gospel message. 1 Corinthians 15:1-4
Peter also speaks of the new earth, which is not a symbol.
The book of Revelation is a book of signs, but not everything in it is a sign.
It's not part of the 'gospel message,' although it is all fact.
The apostles and prophets reveal God's ultimate intention in creating the universe.
The 'Why.' Which is that He may have a counterpart, an 'enlargement,' a bride, who is the
Body, of His Son, composed of millions (billions?) of people for eternity.
That is the New Jerusalem, the sign of the New Jerusalem
 
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Because God forknew the sandbox I played in would be tooooo small for me once I became a man.
 
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Greetings My first post of introduction

Why did God create the physical universe, and is heavenly life a plan B because Plan A failed. Or was God’s original purpose plan B to begin with. Was man to live eternally on earth in paradise free of sin, suffering and death because Adam and Eve at the forbidden fruit? Or was the only thing the couple lost in the beginning was separation, spiritual death, from God proved by their eviction from the Garden of Eden.
The bible says he created all things for his pleasure.Anything else I say about why he created would be speculation.

GOD told man what would happen if he were disobedient and man was disobedient anyway.

Remember GOD gave dominion of the earth to man which means man had authority over the earth but being disobedient he gave his power over the earth to satin.

GOD is omniscient and he knew Adam and Eve would not like the choice they made so he set out to make sure his WORD was accomplished and take back the power and give it to man but he is righteous and did it the legal way

he came to earth as a man and fulfilled the law perfectly as man and the bible says that in order for death to have power you have to have sinned and JESUS never sinned

so death lost its power and now all power in heaven and earth belong to JESUS and before JESUS left he gave those that believe in him Grace and we have access to this Grace through faith.
 
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To get to the other side