Is Dr. Dino (Kent Hovind) a total joke?

[popeye]

Yea cartoon dating is only accurate when the date of the thing being tested is not known...when the age is known, its always wrong.

too funny

so true

 

[JackH]

Yes we know that evolutionist believe their religion just like the muslims do.

You repeatedly say that evolution is a religion.

Like you repeatedly say that carbon dating is flawed.

But usually the only thing you back up what you say with is an echo. As in, you keep saying the same thing over and over and again and again, like if you say it enough times somebody might believe it.

Now, do you have anything to say about that YEC article on carbon dating before I bury it in your 6,000 year old Earth?

What is an acceptable definition of religion?

I'm not looking for one of your typical answers like "Religion is evolution."

What is religion?

What is evolution?

How can anyone possibly credibly define evolution as a religion?

 

[kedge]

How can anyone possibly credibly define evolution as a religion?

The definition of Religion,

Religion 1

a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe, especially when considered as the creation of a superhuman agency or agencies, usually involving devotional and ritual observances, and often containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs.

Most people know Jack (lol) that Evolution is a set of beliefs concerning the cause and nature of the universe ,except Evolutionists have not stated what that Evolutionary agent is, Evolutionists claim that quantum physics, random chance, natural processes, natural selection and mutations are the underlying mechanisms for Evolution itself, but, Evolutionists have not been able to create one animal or creature or life form from scratch with the elements of this planet earth with those evolutionary mechanisms mentioned, Evolutionists also claim that it takes millions of years for these processes to work and create life forms, but, like it has been mentioned by many-those evolutionary mechanisms don't work, so all evolution has is millions of years, so is billions or millions of years the evolutionary agent?

Religion 2

a specific fundamental set of beliefs and practices generally agreed upon by a number of persons or sects.

Sects -
any group, party, or faction united by a specific doctrine or under a doctrinal leader.

 

[JackH]

The definition of Religion,

Religion 1

a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe, especially when considered as the creation of a superhuman agency or agencies, usually involving devotional and ritual observances, and often containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs.

Who or what is the superhuman agency with respect to evolution?

Many Catholics support evolution. Does that make their religion evolution instead of Catholic?

Many protestant denominations support evolution. They could best be described as theistic evolutionists. Is their religion evolution rather than their religion being Christianity in general or some specific denomination?

What are the devotional and ritual observations with respect to the religion of evolution?

What is the moral code of the religion of evolution?

 

[valiant]

Who or what is the superhuman agency with respect to evolution?

CHANCE or FATE.

Many Catholics support evolution. Does that make their religion evolution instead of Catholic?

well at least they don't believe that it was by chance. In their case it would be better to call their belief in evolution a religious philosophy.

Many protestant denominations support evolution. They could best be described as theistic evolutionists. Is their religion evolution rather than their religion being Christianity in general or some specific denomination?

ditto.

What are the devotional and ritual observations with respect to the religion of evolution?

bowing down to scientists of a certain kind.

What is the moral code of the religion of evolution?

survival of the fittest.

 

[JackH]

ditto.

Speaking of "ditto" I must ask, is there any human on this planet who believes like you do?

I mean, you say the earth is old and you say the flood was not global but you say dinosaurs coexisted with humans and a whole lot of other nonsense, none of which you ever support with sources.

It's like you want people to believe figments of your imagination.

Here's a question for you and kedge and Mitspa in particular:

Is Billy Graham's religion Evolution?

Billy Graham:

"I don't think that there's any conflict at all between science today and the scriptures. I think that we have misinterpreted the Scriptures many times and we've tried to make the Scriptures say things they weren't meant to say, I think that we have made a mistake by thinking the Bible is a scientific book. The Bible is not a book of science. The Bible is a book of Redemption, and of course I accept the Creation story. I believe that God did create the universe. I believe that God created man, and whether it came by an evolutionary process and at a certain point He took this person or being and made him a living soul or not, does not change the fact that God did create man. ... whichever way God did it makes no difference as to what man is and man's relationship to God."Billy Graham: Personal Thoughts of a Public Man, 1997. p. 72-74

 

[JackRT]

Speaking of "ditto" I must ask, is there any human on this planet who believes like you do?

I mean, you say the earth is old and you say the flood was not global but you say dinosaurs coexisted with humans and a whole lot of other nonsense, none of which you ever support with sources.

It's like you want people to believe figments of your imagination.

Here's a question for you and kedge and Mitspa in particular:

Is Billy Graham's religion Evolution?

Billy Graham:

"I don't think that there's any conflict at all between science today and the scriptures. I think that we have misinterpreted the Scriptures many times and we've tried to make the Scriptures say things they weren't meant to say, I think that we have made a mistake by thinking the Bible is a scientific book. The Bible is not a book of science. The Bible is a book of Redemption, and of course I accept the Creation story. I believe that God did create the universe. I believe that God created man, and whether it came by an evolutionary process and at a certain point He took this person or being and made him a living soul or not, does not change the fact that God did create man. ... whichever way God did it makes no difference as to what man is and man's relationship to God."Billy Graham: Personal Thoughts of a Public Man, 1997. p. 72-74

In that post Billy Graham sounds very Catholic.

 

[valiant]

Speaking of "ditto" I must ask, is there any human on this planet who believes like you do?

millions lol

I mean, you say the earth is old and you say the flood was not global but you say dinosaurs coexisted with humans and a whole lot of other nonsense, none of which you ever support with sources.

well you can think it nonsense if you wish. its a free world. I have seen the support in actual pictures on ancient weaving and on artwork in the mid 2nd century AD and I think Loch Ness occurrences point that way too. . its just not important enough to me for me to feel it worth spending a lot of time proving it to you.

It's like you want people to believe figments of your imagination.

you mean like you with your wild theories lol?

Here's a question for you and kedge and Mitspa in particular:

Is Billy Graham's religion Evolution?

Billy Graham:

"I don't think that there's any conflict at all between science today and the scriptures. I think that we have misinterpreted the Scriptures many times and we've tried to make the Scriptures say things they weren't meant to say, I think that we have made a mistake by thinking the Bible is a scientific book. The Bible is not a book of science. The Bible is a book of Redemption, and of course I accept the Creation story. I believe that God did create the universe. I believe that God created man, and whether it came by an evolutionary process and at a certain point He took this person or being and made him a living soul or not, does not change the fact that God did create man. ... whichever way God did it makes no difference as to what man is and man's relationship to God."Billy Graham: Personal Thoughts of a Public Man, 1997. p. 72-74

As I said evolution is possibly his religious philosophy. Soooooo?

 

[valiant]

In that post Billy Graham sounds very Catholic.

LOL what nonsense. all he is doing is saying lets not get het up about detailed theories of origins. Lets accept that God created the world and created man in some way, and concentrate on what matters most, his redemption.

 

[JackRT]

LOL what nonsense. all he is doing is saying lets not get het up about detailed theories of origins. Lets accept that God created the world and created man in some way, and concentrate on what matters most, his redemption.

No nonsense at all. Actually several popes have talked about evolution in almost the same words that Billy Graham used.

 

[valiant]

No nonsense at all. Actually several popes have talked about evolution in almost the same words that Billy Graham used.

Soooooo? So have many others from many denominations.

 

[Mitspa]

You repeatedly say that evolution is a religion.

Like you repeatedly say that carbon dating is flawed.

But usually the only thing you back up what you say with is an echo. As in, you keep saying the same thing over and over and again and again, like if you say it enough times somebody might believe it.

Now, do you have anything to say about that YEC article on carbon dating before I bury it in your 6,000 year old Earth?

What is an acceptable definition of religion?

I'm not looking for one of your typical answers like "Religion is evolution."

What is religion?

What is evolution?

How can anyone possibly credibly define evolution as a religion?

It is a religion ...a system of unproven and silly beliefs. "nothing blew up and made everything" that's a religion Jack

 

[valiant]

millions lol



well you can think it nonsense if you wish. its a free world. I have seen the support in actual pictures on ancient weaving and on artwork in the mid 2nd century AD (correction - 2nd millennium) and I think Loch Ness occurrences point that way too. . its just not important enough to me for me to feel it worth spending a lot of time proving it to you.



you mean like you with your wild theories lol?



As I said evolution is possibly his religious philosophy. Soooooo?

correction see above 2nd millennium AD

 

[kedge]

dinosaurs coexisted with humans and a whole lot of other nonsense, none of which you ever support with sources.

Evolutionists or secularists call the animals and creatures dinosauria not Bible believing Christians or people who believe the Bible is truth. The only source of information a Bible believing Christian has is the Holy Bible, but they don't believe it is a book of nonsense, and of course a Christian would believe that Genesis is a true and accurate account of the coexistence of created kinds by The Almighty Holy God of the Holy Bible.

 

[JackRT]

True and accurate can be quite different. For example, Jesus spoke in Parables. These are fictional stories and hence are not true in a literal sense. However a Parable is accurate to human nature and spiritual realities. In other words it works as a thought provoking very memorable story. There are quite a few similar stories in the Bible --- Genesis creation, Jonah, Job. Do not ask "Is it a true story?" If you do that you have likely already missed the point. Ask rather "Does the story work?"

 

[kedge]

You repeatedly say. Like you repeatedly say. As in, you keep saying the same thing over and over and again and again.

Yes JackH we should all be cautious of repetitive mental strain injury.

 

[valiant]

True and accurate can be quite different. For example, Jesus spoke in Parables. These are fictional stories and hence are not true in a literal sense. However a Parable is accurate to human nature and spiritual realities. In other words it works as a thought provoking very memorable story. There are quite a few similar stories in the Bible --- Genesis creation, Jonah, Job. Do not ask "Is it a true story?" If you do that you have likely already missed the point. Ask rather "Does the story work?"

but if it is not true it doesn't work. it is too extreme

 

[JackH]

I have seen the support in actual pictures on ancient weaving and on artwork in the mid 2nd century AD and I think Loch Ness occurrences point that way too.

Pliny the Elder believed in mermaids many centuries ago. In 1611 Dutch explorer Henry Hudson reported a mermaid sighting. Thousands of sailors have sworn to seeing mermaids perching on the bows of their ships. One story goes that Cain killed Abel because he was jealous that the latter had a pet mermaid (also a pet T. rex) and Cain didn’t.

Mermaids are real.

The painting below proves that mermaids exist because how could the painter know what a mermaid looked like if he didn’t see one.

 

[valiant]

Pliny the Elder believed in mermaids many centuries ago. In 1611 Dutch explorer Henry Hudson reported a mermaid sighting. Thousands of sailors have sworn to seeing mermaids perching on the bows of their ships. One story goes that Cain killed Abel because he was jealous that the latter had a pet mermaid (also a pet T. rex) and Cain didn’t.

Mermaids are real.

The painting below proves that mermaids exist because how could the painter know what a mermaid looked like if he didn’t see one.

so you have a fossil of a mermaid to compare it with? LOL LOL

 

[Mitspa]

Yep Jack...mermaids are real..and evolution is real science lol