Catholic Heresy (for the record)

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I have already explained in detail the Church's view on interpreting Sacred Scriptures. We have : Sacred Scriptures, Sacred Tradition, and the Magesterium
 
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I know what you are implying! You think you're the first to tell me Pope Francis is the Antichrist?

Once again then by a response like this you still don't know where Pergamos is located ???

I will go ahead and answer for you to see I am not doing what you said;

 
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I don't think I'm above ya'll. Ya'll consistently make me feel as if I'm below ya'll. Words like devil worshipper and idolater, tend to make a person not vey happy with his brother
 

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I know what you are implying! You think you're the first to tell me Pope Francis is the Antichrist?
At least Pope promote one world government, and you said it is Islam.

That mean you admit Pope work for Islam.

that mean he work for devil.

You follow him to hell.
 
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Once again then by a response like this you still don't know where Pergamos is located ???

I will go ahead and answer for you to see I am not doing what you said;

If you are not implying that, then I'm sorry. So many people have tried to bring me to the conclusion that Pope Francis is the antichrist
 
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Mwc68 feels he should be above everybody, after all he is a Catholic and according to him all Christians are going to hell in a hand basket because we do not follow the Catholic Church nor Mary like he does.
From what I have read. mwc68 is a born again christian going to the catholic church. And for the most part he is not being treated as a Brother in Christ.

I have never seen him say we are going to hell because we don't go to the catholic church.

While I don't agree with the catholic religion, we all work out our OWN salvation. Not everybody else's.
 
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If you are not implying that, then I'm sorry. So many people have tried to bring me to the conclusion that Pope Francis is the antichrist

The 7 churches that John was told to write to was in Turkey, and out of all 7 he points out Pergamos and says this is where satan's seat/throne is (Revelation 2:13) and later in the book John is shown this seat/throne is given to the man of sin/1st beast (Revelation 13:2).

People who have been taught to follow the theology to look at a pope or an American president for the man of sin are looking in the wrong area according to John and the book of Revelation.
 
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The 7 churches that John was told to write to was in Turkey, and out of all 7 he points out Pergamos and says this is where satan's seat/throne is (Revelation 2:13) and later in the book John is shown this seat/throne is given to the man of sin/1st beast (Revelation 13:2).

People who have been taught to follow the theology to look at a pope or an American president for the man of sin are looking in the wrong area according to John and the book of Revelation.
Then again sir, i apologize for jumping to a conclusion
 
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From what I have read. mwc68 is a born again christian going to the catholic church. And for the most part he is not being treated as a Brother in Christ.

I have never seen him say we are going to hell because we don't go to the catholic church.

While I don't agree with the catholic religion, we all work out our OWN salvation. Not everybody else's.
Thanx for the kind words! :)
 

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The 7 churches that John was told to write to was in Turkey, and out of all 7 he points out Pergamos and says this is where satan's seat/throne is (Revelation 2:13) and later in the book John is shown this seat/throne is given to the man of sin/1st beast (Revelation 13:2).

People who have been taught to follow the theology to look at a pope or an American president for the man of sin are looking in the wrong area according to John and the book of Revelation.

I agree with everything you said here and am not trying to "show" or "teach" anything, but in Rev 17:8 it tells us the beast is coming from the abyss. "
8"The beast that you saw was, and is not, and is about to come up out of the abyss and go to destruction. And those who dwell on the earth, whose name has not been written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, will wonder when they see the beast, that he was and is not and will come."

What are your thoughts on that? I'm not 100% sure of what I make of this yet myself.
 
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At least Pope promote one world government, and you said it is Islam.

That mean you admit Pope work for Islam.

that mean he work for devil.

You follow him to hell.
We are all deceived in some way or another. Is the area you are deceived in going to send you to hell?
 
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I agree with everything you said here and am not trying to "show" or "teach" anything, but in Rev 17:8 it tells us the beast is coming from the abyss. "
8"The beast that you saw was, and is not, and is about to come up out of the abyss and go to destruction. And those who dwell on the earth, whose name has not been written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, will wonder when they see the beast, that he was and is not and will come."

What are your thoughts on that? I'm not 100% sure of what I make of this yet myself.


The reason why it said this is because the beast will be made up of two original empires that was; The Roman and The Babylonian !!!

It is not the same as the past empires because it will be diverse from them as this is a new regime that will control these areas.

Is about to come because it is still in the process of connecting all the areas together, as Egypt and Greece need to be pulled into the fold.


Roman Empire


Babylonian Empire


The end time nations from the OT prophecies that will be player in the final beast system:
Turkey, Iran, Iraq, Greece, Egypt, Sudan, Ethiopia, Libya, Syria, and Jordan
 

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The reason why it said this is because the beast will be made up of two original empires that was; The Roman and The Babylonian !!!

It is not the same as the past empires because it will be diverse from them as this is a new regime that will control these areas.

Is about to come because it is still in the process of connecting all the areas together, as Egypt and Greece need to be pulled into the fold.


Roman Empire


The end time nations from the OT prophecies that will be player in the final beast system:
Turkey, Iran, Iraq, Greece, Egypt, Sudan, Ethiopia, Libya, Syria, and Jordan
That makes sense, and I never even thought of the "abyss" in that way. Thanks for the imput and new perspective.
 
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How can a person be a born again Christian and Worship Mary at the same time?

Galatians 5:19-21
[SUP]19 [/SUP] Now the works of the flesh are evident, which are: adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lewdness,
[SUP]20 [/SUP] idolatry, sorcery, hatred, contentions, jealousies, outbursts of wrath, selfish ambitions, dissensions, heresies,
[SUP]21 [/SUP] envy, murders, drunkenness, revelries, and the like; of which I tell you beforehand, just as I also told you in time past, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.

You cannot do Idolatry and enter into Heaven.

This is what the Catholics need to understand. They have been deceived into thinking they are not Worshiping Mary, but they are worshiping Mary every time they say the "Hail Mary". That which you pray to is your God.
 

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We are all deceived in some way or another. Is the area you are deceived in going to send you to hell?

we all, include Buddhist, Muslim, Hindu.

If you don't believe in Jesus in the bible, you are going to hell.

Catholic deceived his member to pray to Mary,

Catholic deceived his member that Muslim and catholic have the same god, it mean Allah is catholic god. How you go to heaven if you god is Allah.

Catholic deceived his member that all catholic will become God(ccc 460)

If you believe Hindu and atheist going to heaven than you believe catholic going to heaven, I am not.
 

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The reason why it said this is because the beast will be made up of two original empires that was; The Roman and The Babylonian !!!

It is not the same as the past empires because it will be diverse from them as this is a new regime that will control these areas.

Is about to come because it is still in the process of connecting all the areas together, as Egypt and Greece need to be pulled into the fold.


Roman Empire


Babylonian Empire


The end time nations from the OT prophecies that will be player in the final beast system:
Turkey, Iran, Iraq, Greece, Egypt, Sudan, Ethiopia, Libya, Syria, and Jordan
rev 13
[SUP]11[/SUP] And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.
[SUP]12[/SUP] And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.
[SUP]13[/SUP] And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,


Seem to me second beast/final beast is not a country but a man/ leader

Had 2 horn like a lamb/ like Christ.

pretend to be Christ/Christ on earth/ Pope.

But speak like a dragon/ devil



  1. [h=3]Pope Francis says atheists can do good and go to heaven too![/h]www.catholic.org/news/hf/faith/story.php?id...


    Roman Catholic Church


    May 30, 2013 - Pope Francis has good news for atheists. Jesus died and was raised for them as well. His redemptive embrace was for all, not just a chosen ...You've visited this page 2 times. Last visit: 6/24/15


 
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How can a person be a born again Christian and Worship Mary at the same time?

Galatians 5:19-21
[SUP]19 [/SUP] Now the works of the flesh are evident, which are: adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lewdness,
[SUP]20 [/SUP] idolatry, sorcery, hatred, contentions, jealousies, outbursts of wrath, selfish ambitions, dissensions, heresies,
[SUP]21 [/SUP] envy, murders, drunkenness, revelries, and the like; of which I tell you beforehand, just as I also told you in time past, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.

You cannot do Idolatry and enter into Heaven.

This is what the Catholics need to understand. They have been deceived into thinking they are not Worshiping Mary, but they are worshiping Mary every time they say the "Hail Mary". That which you pray to is your God.
Mr. Allen, it is very simple and very easy, so easy most children I know understand it! WE DON'T WORSHIP MARY!!!! Mr. Allen, if YOU keep calling a duck a horse, guess what? ITS STILL A DUCK!
 
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rev 13
[SUP]11[/SUP] And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.
[SUP]12[/SUP] And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.
[SUP]13[/SUP] And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,


Seem to me second beast/final beast is not a country but a man/ leader

Had 2 horn like a lamb/ like Christ.

pretend to be Christ/Christ on earth/ Pope.

But speak like a dragon/ devil



  1. Pope Francis says atheists can do good and go to heaven too!

    www.catholic.org/news/hf/faith/story.php?id...



    Roman Catholic Church


    May 30, 2013 - Pope Francis has good news for atheists. Jesus died and was raised for them as well. His redemptive embrace was for all, not just a chosen ...You've visited this page 2 times. Last visit: 6/24/15

The 2nd beast is the false prophet that follows the man of sin and causes the world to worship the 1st beast, as both of these beasts walk at the same time. They do not come at separate periods of time. The two horns represent apostate religion and false religion combined as one !!!
 
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The writer of the hit series "Blue Bloods" is a devout Catholic. I am a fan of this show for several reasons

I like crime/drama shows

I like Tom Selleck and Donnie Wahlberg and especially Jennifer Esposito (lol) as actors

I also like the portrayal of a Catholic family that calls upon their faith in good times and bad, very much like my family.

Would any of you say this is a television show from satan?
 
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The writer of the hit series "Blue Bloods" is a devout Catholic. I am a fan of this show for several reasons

I like crime/drama shows

I like Tom Selleck and Donnie Wahlberg and especially Jennifer Esposito (lol) as actors

I also like the portrayal of a Catholic family that calls upon their faith in good times and bad, very much like my family.

Would any of you say this is a television show from satan?
How many times have you heard,"Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and you shall be saved." on this show?

And How many times have they said,"The Lord Jesus Christ?"

The only thing I have ever seen about this show is adds and previews. The thing I did notice was the prayer at meal time.

Bless us Oh Lord,
and these Thy gifts which we are about to receive,
through Thy bounty,
through Christ Our Lord.
Amen.

They only had the first 2 lines and the Amen. They did not include the third and fourth lines. But like I said, I only caught a preview and have never watched the show.