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Livingforchrist

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Hi everyone, I need some advice. My sister just came from another state recently and brought her 2 kids to live with us. They have been here for about 8 months, and I love it because the last time I saw her was 8 years ago, so were all happy that she's here. I love my niece and nephew but I'm a little disappointed with their behavior. My nephew is always nice with me he just argues with his mom, and that's not my issue so I hardly get in between. But I babysit my niece because I stay home with my 2 kids and she's not what my sister thinks, and I feel horrible because she's the apple of my sisters eyes. She's 7 and my daughter is 4 and she likes to watch disney channel movies, where teens kiss and my sister allows it. Personally I don't think they should watch that specially because my daughter is always behind her my daughter looks up to her always trying to mimic her. The worst is that once she stole 500 dollars from my brother (her uncle) and she didn't say anything when she saw us looking for them, the only reason I found out she took it was because my partner my cousin was going towards the restroom and he saw her with money and she hid it quickly and smiled. She lied when we asked them until after a while she said "maybe I saw money somewhere" and she took it out from a different place then where she originally placed it. But the worst was when my mom asked her to get up from a recliner where she was sitting to cover it so the kids won't get it dirty and she got so angry when my mom put down cover on the recliner she threw it and hit my mom with a key chain and threw pillows at her. My mom told her to tell her mom when she comes home but she never did, until recently I told my sister but she didn't tell her anything. Yesterday she told everyone my daughter says lots of bad words, of course she didn't say it in front of us, she said it when we were gone, but my mom told me when we got home and I asked her "does my daughter say bad words to you?" And she said I never said that but my mom was there and she said "you did, you just told your mom and I the other day" and she said "well maybe once" mind I say I've never heard my daughter say any bad words, she said maybe one or two when she was little but we corrected her behavior and haven't heard any since. She's also always yelling at my daughter and she bosses her around. Idk what to do, in front of us and her mom she's the sweetest girl, but behind our backs and when her moms not home she's something else, but even in front of me she acts sweetly but I've heard what she tells my daughter and how she talks to her. She even told her she's going back to her home country and my daughter told her "but you don't have to go you can stay with us" and she "but I want to go" and then she tells everyone my daughter told her to go back to her own home country. Since I babysit I always catch them having these conversations, and my niece doesn't notice me listening. I haven't spoken to my sister, because she probably won't believe me and she will probably also do nothing about it and think I'm out to get them. It's very difficult I know she's a child, but it's hard when her mom doesn't correct her faults. What can I do, so my daughter doesn't get influenced by her? One time it was horrible, I was going downstairs and I heard them coming in from the garage her and my daughter and I heard my niece say "if you tell anyone I won't be your friend anymore" and I told my sister what I heard because I was shocked and it turns out she lied right to my sisters face, my niece said "we were playing dolls in the garage" and when I asked my daughter she said "well we went outside to see the pool" and when I told my niece in front of my sister she confessed to it. And they know they're not supposed go out there and my daughter never went to the backyard alone. One time I suddenly hear my daughter crying and I come running and my niece says "I don't know why she's crying" and I take my daughter to another room and ask her and she says "my cousin kicked me in my butt" and I waited I until my sister came home to ask my niece and once my sister got home I asked and she said " well I thought it didn't hurt her and I wanted to wake her up because she was asleep" and I don't believe that because my daughter stopped taking naps a long time ago. I'm sorry for the super long post. I'm just venting don't know what to do. I love my sister and her kids but it's getting to a point where I'm stressing out. I don't leave them alone at all, this happens so fast. While I use the restroom or feed or change my 10 month old, or when I'm cooking. I'm sorry for my rant, but I'm so saddened about it. Thanks for taking the time to read this.
 

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I couldn't really read it because there were no paragraphs to break it up, so it's a wall of text and made my eyes go wonky..lol..but from what I did read, your niece sounds like a spoiled rotten brat who needs boot camp and your sister needs a BIG wake up call.. After 8 months of living with you, it's time to tell your sister they need to go..
 
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Sorry for the typo not my partner cousin, my cousin*
 
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Sorry about that, I didn't realize that.
 
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I guess she is spoiled she even talks really spoiled. And I feel so bad for my sister because I don't want my niece to rebel once she's older.
 
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Record your niece and let your sister hear it. Recordings don't lie.

At some point there needs to be a conversation with the lying niece about her lying. Being a liar is not okay and should be taken more seriously than it seems to be in your situation.
 
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That's a good idea, but she speaks so low I can hardly hear her myself. And she learned English very fast, very smart girl, and she's always speaking to my daughter in English and my sister doesn't understand it.
 
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Pray,a soft word turneth away wrath. Pray the Lord will open your sister's eyes. Tough situation hun, praying with you
 
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Thank you! I pray every night. Hopefully my sister can see whats really happening.
 

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I guess she is spoiled she even talks really spoiled. And I feel so bad for my sister because I don't want my niece to rebel once she's older.

Rebelling when she's OLDER? She's already rebelling NOW!! Lying, stealing. etc.. And someday she will end up in juvenile hall and/ or foster care, if you and her mom don't nip this in the bud now..
 
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Rebelling when she's OLDER? She's already rebelling NOW!! Lying, stealing. etc.. And someday she will end up in juvenile hall and/ or foster care, if you and her mom don't nip this in the bud now..
As much as I agree with you, this isnt her place. Her mom could say something cause it's her house. That's why family issuses are incredibly hard.
I pray your niece's heart softens. She needs jesus. Pray for her and with her. If you are with her most of the day, firmly saying 'we dont do that here' may help. Remember her life has been disrupted too. She's testing who's going to love her no matter what
 
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You're right, I thought that maybe she's just being a spoiled child and she doesn't know better. But you're right she needs correction soon. Last time I told my sister about my niece hitting my mom she didn't even say anything to my niece. I'm really saddened by this.
 
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That's a good idea, but she speaks so low I can hardly hear her myself. And she learned English very fast, very smart girl, and she's always speaking to my daughter in English and my sister doesn't understand it.
Everything recorded can be amplified.

Record it and then have your niece translate it for her mother herself. Be there to make sure she translates it right. Lather, rinse, repeat. Your niece will know that not only will she be caught, but that she will be held accountable, even to the point of essentially telling on herself.

That should change her ways.
 

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You're right, I thought that maybe she's just being a spoiled child and she doesn't know better. But you're right she needs correction soon. Last time I told my sister about my niece hitting my mom she didn't even say anything to my niece. I'm really saddened by this.

Do what MultilingualMessenger suggested. Tape-record your niece and play it to your sister. As MM said, tapes don't lie.. Your sister needs to wise up and realize her "apple" is spoiled rotten, rude and bordering on becoming a criminal some day.
 
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It's my moms house and my sister and I live here with her, because she bought a big house and wants us together since we were apart for many years. But it seems like it isn't working. My sister says that neither I or her will disciple each other's daughters.
 
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It's my moms house and my sister and I live here with her, because she bought a big house and wants us together since we were apart for many years. But it seems like it isn't working. My sister says that neither I or her will disciple each other's daughters.
But her daughter's behavior is affecting your daughter. If it wasn't your business before, that makes it your business.
 
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Everything recorded can be amplified.

Record it and then have your niece translate it for her mother herself. Be there to make sure she translates it right. Lather, rinse, repeat. Your niece will know that not only will she be caught, but that she will be held accountable, even to the point of essentially telling on herself.

That should change her ways.
Or be emberressed enough to hide it better. This is a mom's problem. What happened to going to the bible and praying about this stuff. Family is hard. Who's comfort are we trying to solve?
 
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It's my moms house and my sister and I live here with her, because she bought a big house and wants us together since we were apart for many years. But it seems like it isn't working. My sister says that neither I or her will disciple each other's daughters.
And you shouldnt. Go to your sister and mom. You're stuck between a rock and a hard place, but honestly youll come out the bad guy whatever you do. If you record her you run the risk of your sister blaming you for the emberressment. Tred lightly
 
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Or be emberressed enough to hide it better. This is a mom's problem. What happened to going to the bible and praying about this stuff. Family is hard. Who's comfort are we trying to solve?
I never said don't pray about it. But that's already been suggested. They are not mutually exclusive.

Sometimes being corrected is embarrassing or uncomfortable. Still should be done. Discipline isn't all kisses and cuddles.
 

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If the neice gets embarassed, then she SHOULD be embarassed.. Her behavior is appalling.. I would have a talk with your mom AND sister. Tape record your neice and let her mom hear it, and be like "sis, this is TRULY what your child acts like when your not around."

Like I said before, your sister needs a serious wake up call. MM is right, her behavior affects YOUR kids behavior, so this IS your business now. Whether sister likes it or not.