Hidden Sins Within the Heart

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Can Christians be accepted into the Kingdom of God with hatred within their heart for others based on the following:

1. race
2. gender
3. religion

How many Christians have hidden sin within their heart?

Isaiah 29:15

Woe to those who deeply hide their plans from the LORD, And whose deeds are done in a dark place, And they say, "Who sees us?" or "Who knows us?"
 
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atwhatcost

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Can Christians be accepted into the Kingdom of God with hatred within their heart for others based on the following:

1. race
2. gender
3. religion

How many Christians have hidden sin within their heart?

Isaiah 29:15

Woe to those who deeply hide their plans from the LORD, And whose deeds are done in a dark place, And they say, "Who sees us?" or "Who knows us?"
How many times has God killed over "religion?" He wiped out every firstborn Egyptian, and then wiped out Egypt's entire army. Then he told the Israelites to wipe out all those who lived in the Promise Land.

Who's hiding a plan here?
 

Blain

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Honestly that is up to God but I will say this God is love Christians are called to love and be love and hate and love cannot exist together
 
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KennethC

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#4
The bible clearly says God knows are heart, so even if it maybe hidden to others but that person knows truly how they feel about others then it is not hidden to them.

Plus the bible says what is hidden in the dark the Lord will bring into the light, and also shows that nobody who hates has eternal life abiding in them as Apostle John states !!!
 
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EdisonTrent

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#5
In my opinion the three you listed "no". #2 post is correct but it's the authority from God either by his own hand or placed on the hearts of men. But this can be real interesting indeed one would have to be 100% sure that God has called them to kill for religion.
 

Joidevivre

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I'm so glad the Gospel (Good News) of Jesus Christ tells us that we aren't accepted in heaven based on how "we feel" or "our purity". We are only accepted by the Atonement made for us and the cleansing by His blood.

I don't know about you, but I never move from that place. And as I stand there appropriating His blood upon me, I am continually cleansed and forgiven of all unrighteousness. And the Holy Spirit Who indwells me is also continually revealing the selfish things in my heart such as pride, bitterness, hate, etc., inspiring me to confess and allowing His fruits and nature to be revealed in me and through me.

A life- long pilgrimage of watching layer after layer peeled off of me. But, oh, so gently and lovingly. And patiently.
 

Blain

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In my opinion the three you listed "no". #2 post is correct but it's the authority from God either by his own hand or placed on the hearts of men. But this can be real interesting indeed one would have to be 100% sure that God has called them to kill for religion.
Gender? like say a women? And what about race? the color of the skin doesn't doesn't define a person especially in Gods eyes as for religion while that is the most reasonable one still hate cannot exist in a heart full of Gods love
 

Blain

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I'm so glad the Gospel (Good News) of Jesus Christ tells us that we aren't accepted in heaven based on how "we feel" or "our purity". We are only accepted by the Atonement made for us and the cleansing by His blood.

I don't know about you, but I never move from that place. And as I stand there appropriating His blood upon me, I am continually cleansed and forgiven of all unrighteousness. And the Holy Spirit Who indwells me is also continually revealing the selfish things in my heart such as pride, bitterness, hate, etc., inspiring me to confess and allowing His fruits and nature to be revealed in me and through me.

A life- long pilgrimage of watching layer after layer peeled off of me. But, oh, so gently and lovingly. And patiently.
you my friend, every time I read one of your posts I can see the work of the holy spirit in you and the love of the father. yesterday I was talking to God and I asked him to search my heart to go to it's very core and if he found any darkness any anger any unforgiveness that he might take if out and replace it with all that he is.

I also told him how I want so badly for him to teach me to give me just a little bit more of him how grateful I would be for him to deepen out love and relationship even just a bit more I mean I was so giddy to be taught and for him to deepen our love and I could have sworn I heard a voice say such an eager child, it may have been my imagination though but I also said I also love his rebuke because even in his rebuke I learn what is good and what is right in his eyes and I learn and change my ways according to his heart
 

crossnote

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Can Christians be accepted into the Kingdom of God with hatred within their heart for others based on the following:

1. race
2. gender
3. religion

How many Christians have hidden sin within their heart?

Isaiah 29:15

Woe to those who deeply hide their plans from the LORD, And whose deeds are done in a dark place, And they say, "Who sees us?" or "Who knows us?"
That seems kinda 60's-ish
 

JesusLives

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Create in me a clean heart oh God and renew a right spirit within me. Cast me not away from thy presence and take not thy Holy Spirit from me.... Restore unto me the joy of thy salvation and uphold me with thy free spirit.....Then shall I teach transgressors thy ways and sinners shall be converted unto thee........
 
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EdisonTrent

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Gender? like say a women? And what about race? the color of the skin doesn't doesn't define a person especially in Gods eyes as for religion while that is the most reasonable one still hate cannot exist in a heart full of Gods love
I agree it's not good to hate because one is a woman or man, white, black, brown,yellow,green, if it's for religious reasons that's up to God.
 
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Rosesrock

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#12
Yes, For by Grace are ye saved through faith.....That not of yourselves.

Salvation is not based on a work or what you haven't sorted out in your mind about Race, gender or religion.
Salvation is simple, a gift, a act of faith.
Don't make it so complicated. If you have an issue with ANYTHING after you accept Christ's free gift, that doesn't take away any salvation decision.

I'm going to add, No I'm not opening this open to any "losing salvation" discussion. Thank you.
 

Joidevivre

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you my friend, every time I read one of your posts I can see the work of the holy spirit in you and the love of the father. yesterday I was talking to God and I asked him to search my heart to go to it's very core and if he found any darkness any anger any unforgiveness that he might take if out and replace it with all that he is.

I also told him how I want so badly for him to teach me to give me just a little bit more of him how grateful I would be for him to deepen out love and relationship even just a bit more I mean I was so giddy to be taught and for him to deepen our love and I could have sworn I heard a voice say such an eager child, it may have been my imagination though but I also said I also love his rebuke because even in his rebuke I learn what is good and what is right in his eyes and I learn and change my ways according to his heart
You are too eager - as I said, it is a lifelong process.
It happens sooner if you forget about what you want and how much you lack and just enjoy all you know about your God.

Sort of like "Lord, you do.......! You are.......! You feel.......! You watch........! You think.......! You...you...you...you..

And so on. You become almost not there anymore, and He becomes the entire focus. All of a sudden one day, you realize that you are really different.

Go through the bible, and make a list of all the wonderful things He is....write them down.....meditate and praise each attribute one by one. Takes years - worth the payoff. But you sure aren't thinking about yourself anymore. It is ALL ABOUT HIM.
 

Blain

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Yes, For by Grace are ye saved through faith.....That not of yourselves.

Salvation is not based on a work or what you haven't sorted out in your mind about Race, gender or religion.
Salvation is simple, a gift, a act of faith.
Don't make it so complicated. If you have an issue with ANYTHING after you accept Christ's free gift, that doesn't take away any salvation decision.

I'm going to add, No I'm not opening this open to any "losing salvation" discussion. Thank you.
ya we don't need another osas debate we have like what 24,000 of those kinds of threads?
 
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EdisonTrent

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In my opinion there's a modern day battle going on, and God is inspiring people and world leaders to end human suppression on lots of topics some are hearing the call some aren't.
 
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KennethC

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1 Corinthians 4:5

Therefore judge nothing before the time, until the Lord come, who both will bring to light the hidden things of darkness, and will make manifest the counsels of the hearts: and then shall every man have praise of God.



1 John 3:15

Whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer: and ye know that no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him.



1 John 4:8

He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love.
 
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Mitspa

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I'm so glad the Gospel (Good News) of Jesus Christ tells us that we aren't accepted in heaven based on how "we feel" or "our purity". We are only accepted by the Atonement made for us and the cleansing by His blood.

I don't know about you, but I never move from that place. And as I stand there appropriating His blood upon me, I am continually cleansed and forgiven of all unrighteousness. And the Holy Spirit Who indwells me is also continually revealing the selfish things in my heart such as pride, bitterness, hate, etc., inspiring me to confess and allowing His fruits and nature to be revealed in me and through me.

A life- long pilgrimage of watching layer after layer peeled off of me. But, oh, so gently and lovingly. And patiently.
It might seem odd to some but one of the results of knowing that you really love people with Gods love is that you become more bold in telling the truth? Your not as likely to yield to social or political correctness when it comes to speaking what needs to said... I know I love sinners therefore I know when I tell them sin is not the way. I Dont care if its politically correct or not... I know I love blacks as Christ loves them. But I Dont yield to the destructive street culture that seems to be imposed by some. I love women as Christ loves them. But we are different and that difference is Gods intention.
 

Utah

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Lot of Jews are arrogant, narcissistic and ungrateful.

Lots of Hindus are arrogant, manipulative and have horrible body odor.

Lots of Muslims are satanically murderous and need to be eradicated from existence.

Lots of Christians are judgmental Pharisees who shut out the Kingdom against others.

I profoundly dislike the individuals I just mentioned and hate their actions, yet I pray for all of them. Some may argue my prayers are not heard because my heart is not pure. I say God embraces my prayers because He understands my struggle and is pleased that I want the best for my "enemies", and that means salvation in Jesus Christ.
 

Joidevivre

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Utah - I've always thought God hears the prayers that are honest and real - what you really think. Not because of pure, Christian words.

Some will never understand this, but things drastically changed for me the day I went alone in a church and cried and yelled, "I hate you God". Afterwards, I had such a wonderful feeling of God's presence and great peace poured out upon me. Things began to change in so many ways in my life. I had the sense that God was waiting for me to talk real to him. He knows that "hate" was just the best word to describe what was in my heart. And he looked way deeper into my heart than the word coming out of my mouth.
 
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I believe there need to be a change within the Body of Christ with our attitudes toward others because so many discouraging, hurting and broken people in this world. I have been seeking God in this area about brokenness, spiritual warfare and lost. I believe this land of USA need healing with love and forgiveness because it seems USA has lost its way in darkness.