KEEPING THREADS HONEST

[ember]

A number of us have discussed the possibility of finding a way to keep threads on track and not have them overrun with diversions and those who constantly use every opportunity to sidetrack the thread in order to post their belief that you can achieve perfection and never sin again.

It is not an exaggeration to say that certain posters, and yes, one in particular, takes over many threads in the Bible Forum and makes it impossible to have any sort of discussion unless that discussion is all about their particular interpretations of the Bible. It is as though this person is making a career out of spamming threads while seeming to be on fire for spreading their beliefs.

It would be super nice to be able to have a discussion without being told we are going to hell or having our words twisted or misrepresented or being told we do not understand the Bible because we do not agree with their beliefs.

A suggestion we seem to agree on, is to be able to ban someone from a thread if they keep sidetracking and changing the subject or basically making sure no one can even discuss the subject matter of the op. The ban would be after being warned and would only constitute a thread ban...in other words they would no longer be able to do the usual thing of upsetting most folk and taking over. I think a mod might be best suited to do the actual warning and thread banning.

Many people here feel that something needs to be done about the constant and purposeful hijacking of threads by the group, and one person in particular, who continually use this forum as a platform for their church or whatever group they belong to.

Whatever they represent, it is certainly not Christianity as most understand God's grace and forgiveness. Please...can we get something done here...it would make for a much better forum in which to discuss.

 

[secularhermit]

"...A suggestion we seem to agree on, is to be able to ban someone from a thread if they keep sidetracking and changing the subject or basically making sure no one can even discuss the subject matter of the op..."

"...Many people here feel that something needs to be done..."

How many ppl were writing with you that part?

Besides, I´m sorry you felt what you´ve mentioned, disgusting.

HONESTLY: I also have seen portions of derrailments BUT, I also have seen suggestions to moderate even signatures or pictures so, if the Inquisition came back, I know how I could be cheeky or picky.

I have no right to moderate ppl´s minds.

 

[ember]

Besides, I´m sorry you felt what you´ve mentioned, disgusting.

I have no idea what you are talking about

I'm not sure you actually understand the proposal here....that's fine

 

[Willie-T]

Stop sidetracking things, you guys.

 

[JesusLives]

Then there is that tricky little freedom of speech thing.... Unfortunately people have a right to their opinions.....of course we can take action for ourselves and remove ourselves from the offensive thread...never to return again.....

PS I have never known a thread to tell a lie....so they seem pretty honest to me....lol

 

[Willie-T]

Then there is that tricky little freedom of speech thing.... Unfortunately people have a right to their opinions.....of course we can take action for ourselves and remove ourselves from the offensive thread...never to return again.....

PS I have never known a thread to tell a lie....so they seem pretty honest to me....lol

Well, threads may not tell lies, but they "make" us do things....... Powerful things, those threads.

 

[jogoldie]

Everytime Jesus was facing the devil......did you notice.... He never defended Himself.........He never argued....
He just said what His Father said and moved on.......even though others try to derail .....we seem to always fuel
their fire.....bantering back and forth.....if you just speak the Word and then ignore ......eventually the devil flees....
this type of behavior .......though annoying.....can be done away with.....by just not interacting.....skip over.....or just avoid....
allowing these people to control the thread is our fault.....not theirs.....we allow it......jmo...
I never play ball with the devil........it gets to messy....and ugly......only got time for edifying.....
Besides you should pick the worthy battles.....not every battle needs to be fought

 

[secularhermit]

I have no idea what you are talking about

I'm not sure you actually understand the proposal here....that's fine

Although you are talking in "plural" there are a couple of things "they" think it is annoying or disgusting, like this you´ve said: "It would be super nice to be able to have a discussion without being told we are going to hell or having our words twisted or misrepresented or being told we do not understand the Bible because we do not agree with their beliefs."

 

[secularhermit]

As a suggestion, I will suggest, those ideas were signed by their nicknames (1) and, since it looks like a new committee of mods (2) I find it fair to address your claims agaist "those" who are misbehaving, not following CC rules:

Rules - Christian Chat Rooms & Forums

This thread seems to be productive and not counterproductive (rule 2). Fellowship should be sought!

But, this is worth noticing, too:

7. Please do not ask us how to become a moderator.
Sorry we don't accept requests to be a moderator; it is by invitation only.

 

[KennethC]

I pretty much agree on what has been said about one's who try to take over threads with passing such things..

I would also say that if we are going to do this to the one, then we should also do this to those who constantly pass false allegations on others by continuing to say things like, "works to earn salvation, or works based salvation."

Both of those terms you know means the same to them, but just because a person preaches and instructs on the works that come from the fruits of the Holy Spirit does not mean they are instructing a works to earn salvation.

People need to differ between works to earn and works of the Spirit that go hand and hand with faith for salvation !!!

 

[Ariel82]

Use the report button on said poster and help the mods see how that person is trolling/spamming thread with propoganda and not actually responding...report three or four examples and the mods will warn or bann if it is shown that the person is hurting others by their actions.

If they hurt no one just put them on ignore and pray for them. Dont respond to their prods but in Christian love fellowship with those who wish to discuss the topic in the thread.

 

[slave]

So are you suggesting we greet only our own people-- while slandering a person, whom we all know to whom you are referencing along the way?....In order to quote: "Keep the threads honest?"

Is this not dividing? Does the Word of God not secure your position in regards to this persons position? Or any persons apposing position? I am sorry but this is not a calling God would have us be attached to. Matthew 5: 43-48 says, ".....And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so?" KJV

"It is easy to greet your friends--even outsider's do that. But you are called to something higher. "Be perfect as your Father in heaven is perfect." VOICE.

Where is that take-over button? I have yet to see it. Is it the red one?

 

[KennethC]

So are you suggesting we greet only our own people-- while slandering a person, whom we all know to whom you are referencing along the way?....In order to quote: "Keep the threads honest?"

Is this not dividing? Does the Word of God not secure your position in regards to this persons position? Or any persons apposing position? I am sorry but this is not a calling God would have us be attached to. Matthew 5: 43-48 says, ".....And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so?" KJV

"It is easy to greet your friends--even outsider's do that. But you are called to something higher. "Be perfect as your Father in heaven is perfect." VOICE.

Well the bible also says do not have anything to do with the unfruitful works of darkness also, and if you have warned a person once or twice and they still do not stop passing false doctrine or allegations then you are to treat them as an outsider and cast them away from among you before they leaven more people with those bad actions....

 

[slave]

Well the bible also says do not have anything to do with the unfruitful works of darkness also, and if you have warned a person once or twice and they still do not stop passing false doctrine or allegations then you are to treat them as an outsider and cast them away from among you before they leaven more people with those bad actions....

who is this person? State his name and what false doctrine?!! Remember too..."Greater is He that is in you than he that is in the world!"

 

[Ariel82]

You can greet everyone and listen to their words but if they insist on being divisive or teach false doctrine the Bible says to avoid such for they will just add to more unholyness.

Feeding such behavior is not what God tells us to do.

There is a difference between having a conversation and being preached at. Personally I speak with many I dont agree with but even Jesus remained silent at times.

 

[Willie-T]

Well the bible also says do not have anything to do with the unfruitful works of darkness also, and if you have warned a person once or twice and they still do not stop passing false doctrine or allegations then you are to treat them as an outsider and cast them away from among you before they leaven more people with those bad actions....

We all seem to be forgetting that to each of us, only OUR ideas are really fully correct, and that will automatically tend to make us see anything else as "false."

 

[ember]

Everytime Jesus was facing the devil......did you notice.... He never defended Himself.........He never argued....
He just said what His Father said and moved on.......even though others try to derail .....we seem to always fuel
their fire.....bantering back and forth.....if you just speak the Word and then ignore ......eventually the devil flees....
this type of behavior .......though annoying.....can be done away with.....by just not interacting.....skip over.....or just avoid....
allowing these people to control the thread is our fault.....not theirs.....we allow it......jmo...
I never play ball with the devil........it gets to messy....and ugly......only got time for edifying.....
Besides you should pick the worthy battles.....not every battle needs to be fought

Have you noticed how much of the NT is written to refute wrong teaching and to warn us of deception and so on?

Christians should not be argumentative, but neither should they be wimps who 'wait' for someone else to 'do' something

My preferred method of dealing, would be to ignore, but it seems the 'bait' is just too enticing...as that is so, for the good of the community at large, rather then continue the ridiculous one upmanship and arguing and name calling, in order to have a peaceable discussion for once, would it really be so hard for people to stop hijacking threads with the same discourse?

I have seen this work really well in another forum and that is why myself, and actually a few others, have brought it up

 

[JesusLives]

We all seem to be forgetting that to each of us, only OUR ideas are really fully correct, and that will automatically tend to make us see anything else as "false."

We also forget that each of us are on a learning curve.....we may know a little more tomorrow than we know today.....so please don't give me my final grade yet....thank you.....lol

 

[slave]

You can greet everyone and listen to their words but if they insist on being divisive or teach false doctrine the Bible says to avoid such for they will just add to more unholyness.

Feeding such behavior is not what God tells us to do.

There is a difference between having a conversation and being preached at. Personally I speak with many I dont agree with but even Jesus remained silent at times.

Yet this doctrine has not been proven wrong yet, let's not jump to conclusions. And we don't have to feed the behavior simply answer it. Scripturally.

 

[KennethC]

who is this person? State his name and what false doctrine?!! Remember too..."Greater is He that is in you than he that is in the world!"

Well OP mentioned the sinless perfection doctrine for one that a couple on here, one main one, who goes around telling others that unless you never ever sin again in your life you will not receive salvation. Sinless perfection doctrine is just a bad doctrine that takes salvation out of the hands of the Lord and places it fully on the individual.

Then you have the other spectrum of the styles of eternal security (started by Augustine in the 4th century) and the osas (started by Calvin in the 1500's) doctrines that take and place it fully on the Lord and say we play no roll. When the bible says that how one walks in the faith, rather they continue to serve sin (flesh) or server righteousness (Lord) will determine if they have salvation.

Walking in the Spirit means the fruits of love, compassion, self-control, mercy, and such will be clearly evident in our lives. The bible says walking in love is what fulfills the commandments of the Lord, because love will uphold the teachings of our Savior showing that our faith and trust is rooted in Him.

If people do not follow the teachings of those men, but base their belief on the Lord and follow what He says in the bible we are to do then I have no issue with what they teach. But if they come in and start telling people their walk does not matter, they can live however they want, or even a backslide will cost them salvation that teaching has got to be shut down.

Which is why I posed those from any of those doctrines if they see another who believes as they believe; belittling, demeaning, using sarcastic remarks, and even condemning others they need to put those brothers or sisters in their place by the Word of God. As nowhere does the bible condone that treatment of others !!!