Here is the Answer: When is Jesus(Yeshua's) birthday?

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I have spent many hours and dedicated much of my time to using scripture and history to finally track down the date of Yeshua’s birth. And I have finally found the answer that I feel gives us an accurate date by which we can know the the date of the birth of our Savior. While I am aware of many theories of men I have used scripture and historical texts to find this date that I believe is conclusive on the matter. Here I will take you through my steps as I studied and found my answer.

To find the actual birth date of Yeshua, we can study the scripture and deduce scientific and historical (Judaic) time frames... It's rather easy to discount a December 25th birth... A known date to coincide with the pagan celebration of mid-winter. To deduce the birthday of Yeshua, we must consider the conception of John the Baptist, his father,(Zacharias) and mother, (Elisabeth)... The 24 Courses of the Temple Priesthood.

But David, being desirous of ordaining his son king of all the people, called together their rulers to Jerusalem, with the priests and the Levites; and having first numbered the Levites, he found them to be thirty-eight thousand, from thirty years old to fifty; out of which he appointed twenty-three thousand to take care of the building of the temple, and out of the same, six thousand to be judges of the people and scribes, four thousand for porters to the house of G-D, and as many for singers, to sing to the instruments which David had prepared, as we have said already. He divided them also into courses: and when he had separated the priests from them, he found of these priests twenty-four courses, sixteen of the house of Eleazar, and eight of that of Ithamar; and he ordained that one course should minister to G-D eight days, from sabbath to sabbath. And thus were the courses distributed by lot, in the presence of David, and Zadok and Abiathar the high priests, and of all the rulers; and that course which came up first was written down as the first, and accordingly the second, and so on to the twenty-fourth; and this partition hath remained to this day. — Josephus, Antiquities of the Jews, Book 7, Chapter 14, Paragraph 7.

King David on G-D's instructions (1 Chr 28:11-13) had divided the sons of Eleazar and Ithamar, the sons of Aaron, into 24 groups (1 Chr 24:1-4), to setup a schedule by which the Temple of the L-RD could be staffed with priests (Kohanim) all year round in an orderly manner. After the 24 groups of priests were established, lots were drawn to determine the sequence in which each group would serve in the Temple. (1 Chr 24: 7-19). That sequence is as follows:
The 24 courses of priests
[TABLE="class: outer_border, width: 500, align: left"]
[TR]
[TD]1 Chronicles 24:7 [/TD]
[TD]1: Jehoiarib[/TD]
[TD]2: Jedaiah[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]1 Chronicles 24:8 [/TD]
[TD]3: Harim[/TD]
[TD]4: Seorim[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]1 Chronicles 24:9 [/TD]
[TD]5: Malchijah[/TD]
[TD]6: Mijamin[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]1 Chronicles 24:10[/TD]
[TD]7: Hakkoz[/TD]
[TD]8: Abijah[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]1 Chronicles 24:11[/TD]
[TD]9: Jeshuah[/TD]
[TD]10: Shecaniah[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]1 Chronicles 24:12[/TD]
[TD]11: Eliashib[/TD]
[TD]12: Jakim[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]1 Chronicle 24:13[/TD]
[TD]13: Huppah [/TD]
[TD]14: Jeshebeab[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]1 Chronicles 24:14[/TD]
[TD]15: Bilgah[/TD]
[TD]16: Immer[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]1 Chronicles 24:15[/TD]
[TD]17: Hezir[/TD]
[TD]18: Aphses[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]1 Chronicles 24:16[/TD]
[TD]19: Pethahiah[/TD]
[TD]20: Jehezekel[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]1 Chronicles 24:17[/TD]
[TD]21: Jachim [/TD]
[TD]22: Gamul[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]1 Chronicles 24:18[/TD]
[TD]23: Delaiah[/TD]
[TD]24: Maaziah[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]


1 Chr 24:19 “These were the orderings of them in their service to come into the house of the L-RD, according to their manner, under Aaron their father, as the L-RD G-D of Israel had commanded him.”

Now each one of the 24 "courses" of priests would begin and end their service in the Temple on the Sabbath, a tour of duty being for one week (2 Chr 23:8, 1 Chr 9:25). On three occasions during the year, all the men of Israel were required to travel to Jerusalem for festivals of the L-RD , so on those occasions all the priests would be needed in the Temple to accommodate the many sacrifices offered by the crowds. Those three festivals were Unleavened Bread, Pentecost, and Tabernacles (Deut 16:16).

The Yearly Cycle of Service in the Temple.

The Jewish calendar begins in the spring, during the month of Nisan (Est 3:7), so the first "course" of priests, would be that of the family of Jehoiarib, who would serve for the first week of Nisan, Sabbath to Sabbath. The second week would then be the responsibility of the family of Jedaiah. The third week would be the feast of Unleavened Bread, and all priests would be present for service. Then the schedule would resume with the third course of priests, the family of Harim. By this plan, when the 24th course was completed, the general cycle of courses would repeat. This schedule would cover 51 weeks or 357 days, enough for the lunar Jewish calendar (about 354 days). So, in a period of a year, each group of priests would serve in the Temple twice on their scheduled course, in addition to the 3 major festivals, for a total of about five weeks of duty.

The Conception of John the Baptist.

Now back to Zacharias, the father of John the Baptist.

Luke 1:23 “And it came to pass, that, as soon as the days of his ministration were accomplished, he departed to his own house.”
Luke 1:24 “And after those days his wife Elisabeth conceived, ...”

Beginning with the first month, Nisan, in the spring (March-April), the schedule of the priest's courses would result with Zacharias serving during the 10th week of the year. This is because he was a member of the course of Abia (Abijah), the 8th course, and both the Feast of Unleavened Bread (15-21 Nisan) and Pentecost (6 Sivan) would have occurred before his scheduled duty. This places Zacharias' administration in the Temple as beginning on the second Sabbath of the third month.

First Week: Jehoiarib (1) Seorim (4) All Priests (Pentecost)
Second Week: Jedaiah (2) Malchijah (5) Abijah (8)
Third Week: All Priests (Feast of Unleavened Bread) Mijamin (6) Jeshuah (9)
Fourth Week: Harim (3) Hakkoz (7) Shecaniah (10)

Having completed his Temple service on the third Sabbath of Sivan, Zacharias returned home and soon conceived his son John. So John the Baptist was probably conceived shortly after the third Sabbath of the month of Sivan.

The Conception of Yeshua Messiah (Jesus).

Now the reason that the information about John is important, is because according to Luke, Yeshua was conceived by the Holy Spirit in the sixth month of Elisabeth's pregnancy:

Luke 1:24-27
24 “And after those days his wife Elisabeth conceived, and hid herself five months, saying,
25 Thus hath the Lord dealt with me in the days wherein he looked on me, to take away my reproach among men.
26 And in the sixth month the angel Gabriel was sent from God unto a city of Galilee, named Nazareth,
27 To a virgin espoused to a man whose name was Joseph, of the house of David; and the virgin's name was Mary.”

Note that verse 26 above refers to the sixth month of Elisabeth's pregnancy, (the sixth month of the Hebrew calendar) and this is made plain by the context of verse 24 and again in verse 36:

Luke 1:36 “And, behold, thy cousin Elisabeth, she hath also conceived a son in her old age: and this is the sixth month with her, who was called barren.”

Mary stayed with Elizabeth for the last 3 months of her pregnancy, until the time that John was born.

Luke 1:56-57
56“And Mary abode with her about three months, and returned to her own house.
57 Now Elisabeth's full time came that she should be delivered; and she brought forth a son.”

Now working from the information about John's conception late in the third month, Sivan, and advancing six months, we arrive late in the 9th month of Kislev (Nov-Dec) for the time frame for the conception of Yeshua. It is notable here that the first day of the Jewish festival of Hanukkah, the Festival of Lights, is celebrated on the 25th day of Kislev, and Yeshua is called the light of the world (John 8:12, 9:5, 12:46). This does not appear to be a mere coincidence. In the book of John, Hanukkah is called the Feast of Dedication (John 10:22). Hanukkah is an eight day festival of rejoicing, celebrating deliverance from enemies by the relighting of the menorah in the rededicated Temple, which according to the story, stayed lit miraculously for eight days on only one day's supply of oil.

The Birth of John the Baptist.

Based on a conception shortly after the third Sabbath of the month of Sivan, projecting forward an average term of about 10 lunar months (40 weeks), we arrive in the month of Nisan. It would appear that John the Baptist may have been born in the middle of the month, which would coincide with Passover and the Feast of Unleavened Bread. It is interesting to note, that even today, it is customary for Jews to set out a special goblet of wine during the Passover Seder meal, in anticipation of the arrival of Elijah that week, which is based on the prophecy of Malachi:

Mal 4:5 “Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD:”

Yeshua identified John as the "Elijah" that the Jews had expected:

Mat 17:10-13
13 “And his disciples asked him, saying, Why then say the scribes that Elias must first come?
11 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Elias truly shall first come, and restore all things.
12 But I say unto you, That Elias is come already, and they knew him not, but have done unto him whatsoever they listed. Likewise shall also the Son of man suffer of them.
13 Then the disciples understood that he spake unto them of John the Baptist.”
The angel that appeared to Zacharias in the temple also indicated that John would be the expected "Elias":

Luke 1:17 “And he shall go before him in the spirit and power of Elias, to turn the hearts of the fathers to the children, and the disobedient to the wisdom of the just; to make ready a people prepared for the Lord.”

So then, the Feast of Unleavened Bread begins on the 15th day of the 1st month, Nisan, and this is a likely date for the birth of John the Baptist, the expected "Elijah".

The Birth of Yeshua Messiah.

Since Yeshua was conceived six months after John the Baptist, and we have established a likely date for John's birth, we need only move six months farther down the Jewish calendar to arrive at a likely date for the birth of Yeshua. From the 15th day of the 1st month, Nisan, we go to the 15th day of the 7th month, Tishri. And what do we find on that date? It is the festival of Tabernacles! The 15th day of Tishri begins the third and last festival of the year to which all the men of Israel were to gather in Jerusalem for Temple services. (Lev 23:34)
Yeshua was most likely conceived during the Festival of Lights, Hanukkah then born on the 15[SUP]th[/SUP] of Tishri the first day of Sukkot, and then circumcised on 22 Tishri Simchat Torah. Yeshua says He is the first and the last, the beginning and the end. Simchat Torah is a special celebration in which they roll the Torah scroll from the end to the beginning. They read the last few verses from the end and the first few verses from the beginning, a symbol of completion.

And to all wondering when the next Sukkot is: The Jewish holiday of Sukkot, begins at sundown on Sun, 27 September 2015.
 
And to all wondering when the next Sukkot is: The Jewish holiday of Sukkot, begins at sundown on Sun, 27 September 2015

Jerusalem time or New York?
 
In the case you are being serious in that question: Sundown on September 27th, 2015 where you live.
 
In the case you are being serious in that question: Sundown on September 27th, 2015 where you live.
Then it's about 10 hour difference between where I live and Jerusalem. It can't be both.
I am sort of kidding, my hunch has always been Sept or Oct, but it's not my cup of tea, sorry.
 
I wonder if any of the Apostles asked Jesus when was His birthday or do you think it silly to ask God when was He born...
Psalm 2:7 today I have begotten a son..according to this it was when He was baptised. But then this was a spiritual thing.
 
I wonder if any of the Apostles asked Jesus when was His birthday or do you think it silly to ask God when was He born...
Psalm 2:7 today I have begotten a son..according to this it was when He was baptised. But then this was a spiritual thing.
Did they even think about birthdays they way we do 2000 + years ago?
 
And I haven't even begun shopping for Christmas yet! Let's forget about this thread :p
 
I didn't analyze all of your information but it makes sense and correlates with the meaning of the day. All of the festivals of Leviticus 23 relate to Jesus in some way.

I have spent many hours and dedicated much of my time to using scripture and history to finally track down the date of Yeshua’s birth. And I have finally found the answer that I feel gives us an accurate date by which we can know the the date of the birth of our Savior. While I am aware of many theories of men I have used scripture and historical texts to find this date that I believe is conclusive on the matter. Here I will take you through my steps as I studied and found my answer.

To find the actual birth date of Yeshua, we can study the scripture and deduce scientific and historical (Judaic) time frames... It's rather easy to discount a December 25th birth... A known date to coincide with the pagan celebration of mid-winter. To deduce the birthday of Yeshua, we must consider the conception of John the Baptist, his father,(Zacharias) and mother, (Elisabeth)... The 24 Courses of the Temple Priesthood.

But David, being desirous of ordaining his son king of all the people, called together their rulers to Jerusalem, with the priests and the Levites; and having first numbered the Levites, he found them to be thirty-eight thousand, from thirty years old to fifty; out of which he appointed twenty-three thousand to take care of the building of the temple, and out of the same, six thousand to be judges of the people and scribes, four thousand for porters to the house of G-D, and as many for singers, to sing to the instruments which David had prepared, as we have said already. He divided them also into courses: and when he had separated the priests from them, he found of these priests twenty-four courses, sixteen of the house of Eleazar, and eight of that of Ithamar; and he ordained that one course should minister to G-D eight days, from sabbath to sabbath. And thus were the courses distributed by lot, in the presence of David, and Zadok and Abiathar the high priests, and of all the rulers; and that course which came up first was written down as the first, and accordingly the second, and so on to the twenty-fourth; and this partition hath remained to this day. — Josephus, Antiquities of the Jews, Book 7, Chapter 14, Paragraph 7.

King David on G-D's instructions (1 Chr 28:11-13) had divided the sons of Eleazar and Ithamar, the sons of Aaron, into 24 groups (1 Chr 24:1-4), to setup a schedule by which the Temple of the L-RD could be staffed with priests (Kohanim) all year round in an orderly manner. After the 24 groups of priests were established, lots were drawn to determine the sequence in which each group would serve in the Temple. (1 Chr 24: 7-19). That sequence is as follows:
The 24 courses of priests
[TABLE="class: outer_border, width: 500, align: left"]
[TR]
[TD]1 Chronicles 24:7 [/TD]
[TD]1: Jehoiarib[/TD]
[TD]2: Jedaiah[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]1 Chronicles 24:8 [/TD]
[TD]3: Harim[/TD]
[TD]4: Seorim[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]1 Chronicles 24:9 [/TD]
[TD]5: Malchijah[/TD]
[TD]6: Mijamin[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]1 Chronicles 24:10[/TD]
[TD]7: Hakkoz[/TD]
[TD]8: Abijah[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]1 Chronicles 24:11[/TD]
[TD]9: Jeshuah[/TD]
[TD]10: Shecaniah[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]1 Chronicles 24:12[/TD]
[TD]11: Eliashib[/TD]
[TD]12: Jakim[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]1 Chronicle 24:13[/TD]
[TD]13: Huppah [/TD]
[TD]14: Jeshebeab[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]1 Chronicles 24:14[/TD]
[TD]15: Bilgah[/TD]
[TD]16: Immer[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]1 Chronicles 24:15[/TD]
[TD]17: Hezir[/TD]
[TD]18: Aphses[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]1 Chronicles 24:16[/TD]
[TD]19: Pethahiah[/TD]
[TD]20: Jehezekel[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]1 Chronicles 24:17[/TD]
[TD]21: Jachim [/TD]
[TD]22: Gamul[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]1 Chronicles 24:18[/TD]
[TD]23: Delaiah[/TD]
[TD]24: Maaziah[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]


1 Chr 24:19 “These were the orderings of them in their service to come into the house of the L-RD, according to their manner, under Aaron their father, as the L-RD G-D of Israel had commanded him.”

Now each one of the 24 "courses" of priests would begin and end their service in the Temple on the Sabbath, a tour of duty being for one week (2 Chr 23:8, 1 Chr 9:25). On three occasions during the year, all the men of Israel were required to travel to Jerusalem for festivals of the L-RD , so on those occasions all the priests would be needed in the Temple to accommodate the many sacrifices offered by the crowds. Those three festivals were Unleavened Bread, Pentecost, and Tabernacles (Deut 16:16).

The Yearly Cycle of Service in the Temple.

The Jewish calendar begins in the spring, during the month of Nisan (Est 3:7), so the first "course" of priests, would be that of the family of Jehoiarib, who would serve for the first week of Nisan, Sabbath to Sabbath. The second week would then be the responsibility of the family of Jedaiah. The third week would be the feast of Unleavened Bread, and all priests would be present for service. Then the schedule would resume with the third course of priests, the family of Harim. By this plan, when the 24th course was completed, the general cycle of courses would repeat. This schedule would cover 51 weeks or 357 days, enough for the lunar Jewish calendar (about 354 days). So, in a period of a year, each group of priests would serve in the Temple twice on their scheduled course, in addition to the 3 major festivals, for a total of about five weeks of duty.

The Conception of John the Baptist.

Now back to Zacharias, the father of John the Baptist.

Luke 1:23 “And it came to pass, that, as soon as the days of his ministration were accomplished, he departed to his own house.”
Luke 1:24 “And after those days his wife Elisabeth conceived, ...”

Beginning with the first month, Nisan, in the spring (March-April), the schedule of the priest's courses would result with Zacharias serving during the 10th week of the year. This is because he was a member of the course of Abia (Abijah), the 8th course, and both the Feast of Unleavened Bread (15-21 Nisan) and Pentecost (6 Sivan) would have occurred before his scheduled duty. This places Zacharias' administration in the Temple as beginning on the second Sabbath of the third month.

First Week: Jehoiarib (1) Seorim (4) All Priests (Pentecost)
Second Week: Jedaiah (2) Malchijah (5) Abijah (8)
Third Week: All Priests (Feast of Unleavened Bread) Mijamin (6) Jeshuah (9)
Fourth Week: Harim (3) Hakkoz (7) Shecaniah (10)

Having completed his Temple service on the third Sabbath of Sivan, Zacharias returned home and soon conceived his son John. So John the Baptist was probably conceived shortly after the third Sabbath of the month of Sivan.

The Conception of Yeshua Messiah (Jesus).

Now the reason that the information about John is important, is because according to Luke, Yeshua was conceived by the Holy Spirit in the sixth month of Elisabeth's pregnancy:

Luke 1:24-27
24 “And after those days his wife Elisabeth conceived, and hid herself five months, saying,
25 Thus hath the Lord dealt with me in the days wherein he looked on me, to take away my reproach among men.
26 And in the sixth month the angel Gabriel was sent from God unto a city of Galilee, named Nazareth,
27 To a virgin espoused to a man whose name was Joseph, of the house of David; and the virgin's name was Mary.”

Note that verse 26 above refers to the sixth month of Elisabeth's pregnancy, (the sixth month of the Hebrew calendar) and this is made plain by the context of verse 24 and again in verse 36:

Luke 1:36 “And, behold, thy cousin Elisabeth, she hath also conceived a son in her old age: and this is the sixth month with her, who was called barren.”

Mary stayed with Elizabeth for the last 3 months of her pregnancy, until the time that John was born.

Luke 1:56-57
56“And Mary abode with her about three months, and returned to her own house.
57 Now Elisabeth's full time came that she should be delivered; and she brought forth a son.”

Now working from the information about John's conception late in the third month, Sivan, and advancing six months, we arrive late in the 9th month of Kislev (Nov-Dec) for the time frame for the conception of Yeshua. It is notable here that the first day of the Jewish festival of Hanukkah, the Festival of Lights, is celebrated on the 25th day of Kislev, and Yeshua is called the light of the world (John 8:12, 9:5, 12:46). This does not appear to be a mere coincidence. In the book of John, Hanukkah is called the Feast of Dedication (John 10:22). Hanukkah is an eight day festival of rejoicing, celebrating deliverance from enemies by the relighting of the menorah in the rededicated Temple, which according to the story, stayed lit miraculously for eight days on only one day's supply of oil.

The Birth of John the Baptist.

Based on a conception shortly after the third Sabbath of the month of Sivan, projecting forward an average term of about 10 lunar months (40 weeks), we arrive in the month of Nisan. It would appear that John the Baptist may have been born in the middle of the month, which would coincide with Passover and the Feast of Unleavened Bread. It is interesting to note, that even today, it is customary for Jews to set out a special goblet of wine during the Passover Seder meal, in anticipation of the arrival of Elijah that week, which is based on the prophecy of Malachi:

Mal 4:5 “Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD:”

Yeshua identified John as the "Elijah" that the Jews had expected:

Mat 17:10-13
13 “And his disciples asked him, saying, Why then say the scribes that Elias must first come?
11 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Elias truly shall first come, and restore all things.
12 But I say unto you, That Elias is come already, and they knew him not, but have done unto him whatsoever they listed. Likewise shall also the Son of man suffer of them.
13 Then the disciples understood that he spake unto them of John the Baptist.”
The angel that appeared to Zacharias in the temple also indicated that John would be the expected "Elias":

Luke 1:17 “And he shall go before him in the spirit and power of Elias, to turn the hearts of the fathers to the children, and the disobedient to the wisdom of the just; to make ready a people prepared for the Lord.”

So then, the Feast of Unleavened Bread begins on the 15th day of the 1st month, Nisan, and this is a likely date for the birth of John the Baptist, the expected "Elijah".

The Birth of Yeshua Messiah.

Since Yeshua was conceived six months after John the Baptist, and we have established a likely date for John's birth, we need only move six months farther down the Jewish calendar to arrive at a likely date for the birth of Yeshua. From the 15th day of the 1st month, Nisan, we go to the 15th day of the 7th month, Tishri. And what do we find on that date? It is the festival of Tabernacles! The 15th day of Tishri begins the third and last festival of the year to which all the men of Israel were to gather in Jerusalem for Temple services. (Lev 23:34)
Yeshua was most likely conceived during the Festival of Lights, Hanukkah then born on the 15[SUP]th[/SUP] of Tishri the first day of Sukkot, and then circumcised on 22 Tishri Simchat Torah. Yeshua says He is the first and the last, the beginning and the end. Simchat Torah is a special celebration in which they roll the Torah scroll from the end to the beginning. They read the last few verses from the end and the first few verses from the beginning, a symbol of completion.

And to all wondering when the next Sukkot is: The Jewish holiday of Sukkot, begins at sundown on Sun, 27 September 2015.
 
of all the holy people in the Scriptures, no one is recorded to have kept a feast
or held a great banquet on his birthday.

The day of death is better than the day of one's birth (Ecclesiastes 7:1).

As a midrash explains, 'When a person is born, it is not known what he will be like when grown
and what his deeds will be – whether righteous or wicked, good, or evil.


After this Job opened his mouth and cursed the day of his birth. And Job spoke, and said:


The prophet Jeremiah wrote:14 Cursed be the day in which I was born!
Let the day not be blessed in which my mother bore me!

Job offered burnt offerings for his children,just in case they sinned on there day.

when Herod's birthday was celebrated....


Jesus Christ did not mark the anniversary of His birth, nor did He make reference to it in any
such fashion. Nor did any of the Apostles so much as even mention Christ’s birth date or their own...


Birthdays apparently originated in magic and mythology. also celebrated by followers of Mithra.

Birthdays themselves apparently were adopted by Greco-Romans because of Mithraism
 
Jesus Christ did not mark the anniversary of His birth, nor did He make reference to it in any
such fashion. Nor did any of the Apostles so much as even mention Christ’s birth date or their own...

Don't believe that is true...Luke lays out an extensive timeline of events surrounding the birth of Christ.
then there is this reference...

And when he was twelve years old, they went up to Jerusalem after the custom of the feast.
(Luk 2:42)