Attack on the Confederate Flag?

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Mitspa

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GodIsSalvation said:
Yea man gangs are massive problem in America. How about we confiscate their guns?
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Sure its illegal for them to have them...right? If someone in a gang has a gun legally...they should be allowed to keep it

I doubt many gang bangers have carry permits?
 
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Mitspa said:
Look...you cant control folks like that...this is a free country and a honest discussion on the real race issues would be nice ...but as long as folks are pretending that the rebel flag is the issue...nobody on my side of the issue is going to take them serious.
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Man if you wanted an honest discussion you'd agree at least on one of these key topics, which are at the center of the current time's racial discussions going on all across America this year: getting rid of the traitor flag, tackling police misconduct and racial profiling, in cracking down on the gangs, and on getting rid of the guns.

Pick just one that you could agree on.
 
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Mitspa said:
Sure its illegal for them to have them...right? If someone in a gang has a gun legally...they should be allowed to keep it

I doubt many gang bangers have carry permits?
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Don't matter if they have it legally or illegally, let's get the guns out of their hands.
 
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GodIsSalvation said:
It is a problem, lots of black people I know personally think you be a racist if you fly that flag. Like I said though, you don't even need to go into the race issue, though not to downplay that either, but it's a symbol of treachery and betrayl to Americans as a whole people regardless of race.
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Again you seem to think because you don't like something...others should not be allowed to have it? That's not how it works in America...as far as some blacks being offended...I can understand and have sympathy for that and would not personal want any black to be hurt by my actions...but I must defend the liberty of others to protect my own.
 
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Oh yeah.. Let's surrender our guns so we are convienently disarmed when our government turns against us.
 
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crossnote said:
True, over 100 years, so why all the pressure against the flag?
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Three reasons:

1. Racial terrorists use it as intimidation symbol
2. It is oxymoronic for a government to fly the flag of traitors they defeated in war
3. It symbolizes an anti-Christian regime which misinterpretted and distorted the Bible to promote slavery of african people in deplorable conditions back in the 1700-1800s and to support segregationism from the 1960s to 2015.
 
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GodIsSalvation said:
Don't matter if they have it legally or illegally, let's get the guns out of their hands.
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No we have laws...and those laws should protect us all. But I think the street gang thing present reasonable cause to take some aggressive action in some places...civil liberty may have to yield to public safety in some of these criminal areas.
 
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Again you seem to think because you don't like something...others should not be allowed to have it? That's not how it works in America...as far as some blacks being offended...I can understand and have sympathy for that and would not personal want any black to be hurt by my actions...but I must defend the liberty of others to protect my own.
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Then you are enslaved to corruption. A free man doesn't have to defend his freedom, or else he is all ready enslaved.
 
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GodIsSalvation said:
Three reasons:

1. Racial terrorists use it as intimidation symbol
2. It is oxymoronic for a government to fly the flag of traitors they defeated in war
3. It symbolizes an anti-Christian regime which misinterpretted and distorted the Bible to promote slavery of african people in deplorable conditions back in the 1700-1800s and to support segregationism from the 1960s to 2015.
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and so the arguments against the Christian cross,..maybe you should side with the ACLU in it's attempts at removing the Cross from gov't buildings. After all, many of those slave owners were Christians.
 
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No we have laws...and those laws should protect us all. But I think the street gang thing present reasonable cause to take some aggressive action in some places...civil liberty may have to yield to public safety in some of these criminal areas.
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All right well that's a start. You don't even have to make the safety vs liberty argument. By being part of the gangs, and the gangs being openly at war with America proves that they being rebels have no right to own a gun. Furthermore, many gang members are ex-convicts and felons and therefore all ready do not have a right to own guns. All that is needed is the will of the government or the will of the people to confiscate their weapons.
 
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and so the arguments against the Christian cross,..maybe you should side with the ACLU in it's attempts at removing the Cross from gov't buildings. After all, many of those slave owners were Christians.
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Nay for the cross is clearly a symbol of Christianity and we put our faith in Jesus act upon the cross, but the confederacy was anti-christian because they purposefully distorted the Bible, namely the Curse of Canaaan for to try to justify enslaving what are most likely Cushites. Furthermore the conditions are against both OT and NT codes of slavery, and they never adhered to the Year of Release. Furthermore because they be rebels that itself aside from the racial aspects is anti-Christian, for rebellion is as witchcraft it is written and it is written thou shalt not suffer a witch.
 
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GodIsSalvation said:
Man if you wanted an honest discussion you'd agree at least on one of these key topics, which are at the center of the current time's racial discussions going on all across America this year: getting rid of the traitor flag, tackling police misconduct and racial profiling, in cracking down on the gangs, and on getting rid of the guns.

Pick just one that you could agree on.
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Sure I would go along with the cracking down on street gangs...and forget this silly flag stuff.

and I would agree about the bad cops thing as long as it don't turn into Rev Al Sharpton and his ilk trying to make a dollar.

And never should the American people be disarmed ...ever :)
 
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Mitspa said:
Sure I would go along with the cracking down on street gangs...and forget this silly flag stuff.

and I would agree about the bad cops thing as long as it don't turn into Rev Al Sharpton and his ilk trying to make a dollar.

And never should the American people be disarmed ...ever :)
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Indeed and agreed, except that just because you get rid of the demon-inspired machination of the gun does not mean you are disarmed.
 
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GodIsSalvation said:
All right well that's a start. You don't even have to make the safety vs liberty argument. By being part of the gangs, and the gangs being openly at war with America proves that they being rebels have no right to own a gun. Furthermore, many gang members are ex-convicts and felons and therefore all ready do not have a right to own guns. All that is needed is the will of the government or the will of the people to confiscate their weapons.
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If you base it on their criminal actions...not their beliefs or what somebody did hundreds of years ago.
 
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GodIsSalvation said:
Indeed and agreed, except that just because you get rid of the demon-inspired machination of the gun does not mean you are disarmed.
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Well as long as we have the constitution ...I think you can be sure that the demons are under control :)
 
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I'm loading my gun right now. I think I'll burn a Confederate flag next
 
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Well as long as we have the constitution ...I think you can be sure that the demons are under control :)
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There be that corruption again pretending to be freedom. The Constitution is not even the law of the citizen, but it is the law of the slaves whom are the government whom are even slaves to the citizen. The government cannot purge the demonically inspired machination of the gun, but the citizen can. I will not accept the unnecessary and evil yoke of bondage which is the Constitution for the citizen can annul the Constitution lawfully. The only law of the land of America which I must obey is that the citizen is sovereign so long as I assert my kingship. Apart from that then is the Law of Kings, which is namely this; that God is King of Kings and can set up or abolish kings from off their thrones.
 
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In-race in-fighting in no way mitigates the racist supremacy ideologies these non-white racists adhere to and espouse.

Racist Hispanics don't cease to be racist because they murder their own. Racist blacks don't cease to be racist because they murder their own.

Each continues to be racist because of their identity with and loyalty to racist supremacist ideologies.


HoneyDew said:
Those are gangs that fight each other. The gang in the blue is enemy's with the one in the red and the first group hates everybody.
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In-race in-fighting in no way mitigates the racist supremacy ideologies these non-white racists adhere to and espouse.

Racist Hispanics don't cease to be racist because they murder their own. Racist blacks don't cease to be racist because they murder their own.

Each continues to be racist because of their identity with and loyalty to racist supremacist ideologies.
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This be true. However, just as with white racist groups, so too with other racist groups they being stubborn they will not relent their racism. Therefore it be prudent for us to disarm them of their weapons and symbols.
 
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