Catholic Heresy (for the record)

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valiant

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Where is your Catholic religion information coming from?? Pulpit hearsay?? No One Catholic I know has ever put the Church before God... and the Pope stuff, read your bible Romans 13:1 Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God. The Pope is a Vicar, he is the head of Rome, he is government and church, which God himself instituted... Just like every other governing body out there...
The same as his buddy Hitler?
 
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Are you really a brother in Christ mwc68?

If you are then why do you reject what God says for what the Catholic Church says?

Do you believe Mary was without sin mwc68?

God clearly says in the Scriptures ALL have sinned and All are under sin. Last time I looked up the word all it meant Mary also was under sin and did sin.

God said it!

This is all we need. We do not need the teaching of the Catholic Church that Mary was without sin because we ALL know this is a lie.
 
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You do know mwc68 its a fact in History that the Catholic Church did back up Hitler.

The blood of millions of innocent people is on the hands of the Catholic Church.
 
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The same as his buddy Hitler?
What??? what year do you live in??? it's 2015 in my world... Hitler died in the 1940"s... unless somehow you resurrected him? Have you resurrected him??? I doubt very much that Pope Frances even knew the man or came in contact with him... he was in South America and Hitler was in Europe??? Please check the history books, I'm sure I am right on this one!...Unless you have a German version as Hitler kind of got left out of it... (from Liechtenstein)
 

valiant

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What??? what year do you live in??? it's 2015 in my world... Hitler died in the 1940"s... unless somehow you resurrected him? Have you resurrected him??? I doubt very much that Pope Frances even knew the man or came in contact with him... he was in South America and Hitler was in Europe??? Please check the history books, I'm sure I am right on this one!...Unless you have a German version as Hitler kind of got left out of it... (from Liechtenstein)
who mentioned Francis? He's more of a chancer. we are talking about whether popes should be respected as rulers. and the pope and Hitler were buddies. so no respect for either
 
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Hitler was baptized Catholic, as a baby. But that wasn't his choice--to be baptized
 
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Are you really a brother in Christ mwc68?

If you are then why do you reject what God says for what the Catholic Church says?

Do you believe Mary was without sin mwc68?

God clearly says in the Scriptures ALL have sinned and All are under sin. Last time I looked up the word all it meant Mary also was under sin and did sin.

God said it!

This is all we need. We do not need the teaching of the Catholic Church that Mary was without sin because we ALL know this is a lie.
i believe the doctrine because it says she was without original sin , not sinless
 
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Where in the Scriptures did God ever say Mary was without sin mwc68?

We have gone over this many times and we all know its not in the Scriptures. This Doctrine of Mary being without sin was was made up the Catholic church. In fact the original Fathers fought against Mary being without sin. Even they believed she was born a sinner.

It wasn't till the 1850's the Catholic Church suddenly woke up and realized Mary had to be born without Original sin.

Its more than likely this was when Satan was able to convince the Popes that Mary HAD to be without sin!
 

Jackson123

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You do know mwc68 its a fact in History that the Catholic Church did back up Hitler.

The blood of millions of innocent people is on the hands of the Catholic Church.
to my knowledge, Vatican not only back up Hitler, Vatican is behind the Holocaust. Hitler is only puppet.
 
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You do know mwc68 its a fact in History that the Catholic Church did back up Hitler.

The blood of millions of innocent people is on the hands of the Catholic Church.

This volleying can go on and on... and never will we see eye to eye on this issue... It's the crude insults by such "upstanding" Christians that floors me and gave life to a response... I am embarrassed by it. The bastardizing of Christian values and morals by ripping someone's religious beliefs apart for amusement is just a strange form of Christianity I will never fathom.

Romans 16:17 I appeal to you, brothers, to watch out for those who cause divisions and create obstacles contrary to the doctrine that you have been taught; avoid them.


Heavenly Father, for my part I apologize, I ask the Lords forgiveness for forgetting who I am and the teachings about tolerance and how we are to lead by example. I was feeding the dogs then I cast my pearls and as warned, was attacked for my folly. I praise your name in gratitude for pulling me back with a reminder that pride goes before destruction, a haughty spirit before a fall... In Jesus Holy name... Amen

Matthew 7:6 Do not give dogs what is holy, and do not throw your pearls before pigs, lest they trample them underfoot and turn to attack you.
 

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Buddy Hitler? That's outrageous!
-In 1926 Hitler said, “Christ was the greatest early fighter in the battle
against the world enemy, the Jews …. The work that Christ started but
could not finish, I—Adolf Hitler—will conclude”(John Toland, Adolf Hitler).

-His Holiness welcomed Hitler’s representative,Franz von Papen,
most graciously and remarked how pleased he was that the German
government now had at its head a man uncompromisingly opposed to
communism and Russian nihilism in all its forms.

“The Vatican was so appreciative of being recognized as a full partner
that it asked God to bless the Reich.

On a more practical level, it ordered
German bishops to swear allegiance to the National Socialist regime.


‘In the performance of my spiritual office and in my solicitude for
the welfare and the interest of the German Reich, I will endeavor
to avoid all detrimental acts which might endanger it’”



-“Then shall his mind change, and he shall passover, and offend,
imputing this his power unto his god.” Habakkuk 1:11 (KJV)

-In 1938, Hitler had brought the insignia of Charlemagne’s First Reich,
the imperial crown, the orb of empire, the scepter and the imperial sword
from Vienna to Nuremberg.

Hitler gave his most “inspired” speeches at the frenzied, torch-lit meetings in there.

tradition of Charlemagne.”Charlemagne was crowned emperor of
the Holy Roman Empire in a.d. 800—the First Reich.

-Hitler considered the Jew to be the devil personified. In truth, the Jews
have been specially commissioned to preserve the oracles of God (Romans 3:1-3)

The oracles include the sacred calendar, knowledge of the biblical week,
including the seventh-day Sabbath, and the Old Testament Scriptures.

Jews suffered at Hitler’s hand more than any other race.
the main victim of the Holy Roman Empire has been
the spiritual Jews—or God’s Church(Revelation 6:9-11; 17:5-6).

-in the Pasewalk Hospital, 1918-1919 that Hitler said (Waite, op. cit.)

He was the leader sent by destiny. He must answer the ‘voices’ that he
said he heard The voices told him to rescue his Motherland from
the Jews who had violated her” .
 

prove-all

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Winston Churchill even called the Germans and their military machine ‘the locusts’,
-Thy crowned are as the locusts, Nahum 3:17 (KJV)
and thy captains as the great grasshoppers,which camp in the hedges in the cold day,
but when the sun ariseth they flee away,
and their place is not known where they are.” they hid only to return.

the Nazis just went underground and disappeared like grasshoppers in wintertime.

-“They are terrible and dreadful: their judgment and their
dignity shall proceed of themselves.” Habakkuk 1:7

-November 9, 1989, the Berlin Wall fell , east west are joined again.
Berlin Wall - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
East Germany - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
West Berlin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Anciently, the Roman Empire was divided into two regions.
Rome was the capital in the west, Constantinople in the east.

the image of Daniel 2 refers to the two legs of iron being the Roman Empire

-In 1991, Mark Aarons and John Loftus released a book titled
Unholy Trinity, which told the story of how Vatican-sponsored underground
networks illegally smuggled Nazi leaders out of the country after the war.

-we should note that throughout the Middle Ages, many scholars, theologians,
even popes, knew the Roman Empire was the fourth world-ruling kingdom.

Many of them even identified this fourth kingdom with the one Daniel spoke
of. That’s why Europeans and Catholics kept trying to revive the empire.

-in the 13th century, a man named Jordan of Osnabrueck wrote a book
about how the Roman Empire was transferred into the hand of the Germans.

when Charlemagne was crowned,the pope called him emperor of the fourth world empire.
Approximately 40 million people were butchered during the so-called Holy Inquisition

The spirit of Charlemagne has returned. This past king who ruled the First
Reich waded through a “sea of blood” to achieve his goal of ruling Europe.

-Many Catholics today don’t like to admit Hitler’s connection with Catholicism
Bernard Connolly wrote a bombshell book in 1995 titled The Rotten Heart of Europe
 

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-In 1996, a shocking World War 2 intelligence document made public,
detailing an August 1944 meeting between top German industrialists,
reveals a secret postwar plan to restore the Nazis to power.

Several of Germany’s elite industries were represented, including Messerschmitt
and Volkswagenwerks.These companies, the document asserts,were to “prepare
themselves to finance the Nazi Party which would be forced to go underground.”

the U.S. government did not make it public until 1996—over 50 years later!

-in 1997, Martin Lee, in his fascinating book, The Beast Reawakens,
revealed that “there had never really been a clean break from the Nazi
past, given that the original leadership of the West German Bundeswehr
was recruited directly from the upper echelons of Hitler’s army.



-Margaret Thatcher, former British prime minister, said this about

the European Union [made by the completion of [the treaty of rome]

she said: in October 1995:

“You have not anchored Germany to Europe; you have anchored Europe to a newly dominant,
unified Germany. In the end, my friends,you’ll find it will not work.”
 
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Where in the Scriptures did God ever say Mary was without sin mwc68?

We have gone over this many times and we all know its not in the Scriptures. This Doctrine of Mary being without sin was was made up the Catholic church. In fact the original Fathers fought against Mary being without sin. Even they believed she was born a sinner.

It wasn't till the 1850's the Catholic Church suddenly woke up and realized Mary had to be born without Original sin.

Its more than likely this was when Satan was able to convince the Popes that Mary HAD to be without sin!
It is you who doubts God. Who are you to say what God can and can't do?
 

valiant

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i believe the doctrine because it says she was without original sin , not sinless
I wouldn't say that too loud before your bishops lol besides she was steeped in original sin.