Do all Christians make the first resurrection?

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Jeffreypaul

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Greeting saints, In revelation John makes mention of the first resurrection and who it is that qualifies for this blessed and Holy occas ion. Now I'm not saying that those who don't make it will not be redeemed but rather those who do will be chosen to rule with Christ for a thousand years. The question is not about salvation but rather rulership. In the first three chapters of revelation ,Jesus, exhorts each of the seven churches using the phrase, "to him that overcometh." Why would Jesus exhort the churches saying to him that overcometh if they were already qualified. I'm not saying that the churches will not overcome that's not the point here.The point is when will this be. At the first or second resurrection? The (overcomes) will enter this blessedness at the first resurrection and the ( church )will receive redemption at the general resurrection. Remember John said the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. Rev 20;5. Jesus tells us that some will be raised to everlasting life at the second resurrection. We can see that in John 5;28 marvel not at this: for the ( hour ) is coming, in the which( all ) that are in the Graves shall hear his voice, 29 and shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation. This can not be the (hour ) of the first resurrection because
( all ) that are in the Graves don't rise until the thousand years are finished Rev 20;5. Only the blessed and Holy will rule with Christ for a thousand years. This is the first resurrection. Paul said only the dead in Christ rise at the first resurrection. The rest of the dead that are not raised until after the thousand years are a mixed multitude some who have done good and some who have done evil. See John 5;29.
Here's another thought to ponder. Why would Paul say that I may attain unto the resurrection. Was Paul unsure of his salvation? I think not. Paul was concerned of the high calling that is in Christ Jesus. Paul's aim was to make the first resurrection. The grace of our Lord Jesus be with you spirit. Amen.
 
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KennethC

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The 1st Resurrection takes place at the Lords return before God's wrath is poured out and the 1,000 year millennial reign of Christ begins. So the enduring that Jesus talks about in Matthew 24 is facing the persecution and killing during the great tribulation period, as those who remain that are caught up are those in Christ who were not killed during this period.

The 2nd Resurrection then takes place after the 1,000 year millennial reign and those who are part of this resurrection will stand before God and face His judgment and potentially sent to the lake of fire. Those in the 1st Resurrection will not have to worry about facing this judgment.
 
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flob

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By definition, the first resurrection appears to be all saints, whether qualified to enjoy Christ's Millennium, or not.
Dan 12; Jn 5; Rev 20; 1 Thes 4; Rev 14; Mt 25; 2 Cor 5:10; Rom 14:10; Mt 7:20-22; Rev 22:12
 
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Judgment starts with the house of God/ saints....

1 Peter 4:17-18 "For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God?
[SUP]18 [/SUP]And if the righteous scarcely be saved, where shall the ungodly and the sinner appear?"


Daniel 7:22
Until the Ancient of days came, and judgment was given to the saints of the most High; and the time came that the saints possessed the kingdom.

Daniel 12:2 "And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt."

2 Corinthians 5:1-45 For we know that if our earthly house of this tabernacle were dissolved, we have a building of God, an house not made with hands, eternal in the heavens.
[SUP]2 [/SUP]For in this we groan, earnestly desiring to be clothed upon with our house which is from heaven:
[SUP]3 [/SUP]If so be that being clothed we shall not be found naked.

[SUP]4 [/SUP]For we that are in this tabernacle do groan, being burdened: not for that we would be unclothed, but clothed upon, that mortality might be swallowed up of life."


Revelation 3:18
I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see.


Revelation 16:15
Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.
 
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Eva1218

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From my understanding of the scriptures, not all Christians will be in the first Resurrection. Those who have accepted CHRIST as LORD during the millennial will partake in the second Resurrection, note: those in the second are counted as Christians as well.

Blessings!!!!!!!
 
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There are only 2 resurrections.One of those that are in Christ before the millennial reign of Christ,and one of the dead after the millennial reign of Christ.

When the first resurrection occurs some people believe that there will be left behind saints but this is not true,for the Bible says blessed is he that has part in the first resurrection,for the second resurrection has no hold on them,and Jesus said when He comes back and finds people being hypocritical,they will have their portion with the hypocrites and not be with Him.

The Bible says at the judgment some people will say to Christ,we followed you and did works in your name so why cannot we enter heaven,and Jesus said I never knew you,because you are workers of iniquity,which means this judgment is after the millennial reign of Christ.

Whoever does not make it in the first resurrection will go to the second resurrection.

Some people believe that there is left behind saints because they believe in a pre-trib resurrection and during the tribulation saints are being persecuted by the beast,so they say they must be left behind.

But the Bible says that the saints will not be united with Christ until the man of sin appears claiming to be God which is halfway during the tribulation,and that is because the world can repent of their sins until they take the mark of the beast,so the saints will be on earth.When the world takes the mark of the beast then the world cannot repent of their sins and God will take His children off the earth.

Not everybody that claims Christ will be caught up in the first resurrection,and that is because they would not allow the Spirit to lead them,but wanted to hold unto sin.
 

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Actually there are only two resurrections.

The first resurrection is the resurrection of Jesus Christ in which all who become His participate (Eph 2.5-6; Col 3.1-3; Rom 6.2-11). We who are alive on earth live and reign with Him as a consequence (Rom 5.17; Rev 5.10), and those who have died in Christ also live and reign with Him (Rev 20.4-5).

The second or general resurrection is of all the dead both righteous and unrighteous and is the resurrection of the body. It takes place at the same time for all (John 5.28-29)

I prefer to believe the teaching of Jesus rather than the theories of men.
 
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Jeffreypaul

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You commented that there will be right ouse raised at the second resurrection. There is no righteousness outside of christ. ...He that is righteous let him be righteous still and let him who is Holy be holy still. Rev 22;11. Righteousness is of the Lord and Holiness is from theLord. Although these are works of grace in the believer John makes a distinction of the two. John never said the righteous hath part in the first resurrection. He says the Holy do. So I agree that the righteous in christ make the second resurrection seeing there is no righteousness outside of Christ.
 
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Jeffreypaul

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The righteous and the Holy will both dwell with him. The Holy at the first resurrection and the righteous at the second.
 
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flob

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accepted CHRIST as LORD during the millennial will partake in the second Resurrection, note: those in the second are counted as Christians as well.
Thank you Birdie.
Where in the Word do you get that?





The first resurrection is the resurrection of Jesus Christ in which all who become His participate (Eph 2.5-6; Col 3.1-3; Rom 6.2-11). We who are alive on earth live and reign with Him as a consequence (Rom 5.17; Rev 5.10), and those who have died in Christ also live and reign with Him (Rev 20.4-5).
To the contrary,
although it is useful and fun to count and number all the resurrections in the Bible, both physical and spiritual, in the Old Testament as well as in our Lord's ministry, and His own all-inclusive resurrection; and then throughout the rest of the New Testament, including the physical resurrection of the unsaved----
the specific term 'the first resurrection' occurs only twice. Revelation 20:5 and 6.
Where it is plain to this reader that this 'first resurrection' a) is physical, b) has not transpired yet, c) is constituted of only God's children, d) is separated from the next resurrection by 1000 years, and e) previously has been mentioned in Scripture (since Revelation is a 'harvest' and summary of all that has gone before).
So if any of these characteristics of Rev 20:5-6's 'first resurrection' are not clear, one can proceed to study the discussion of resurrection before. But first, one can gather that after 5-6, there is one other resurrection (cf 'first' resurrection) and that therefore it is the second resurrection (although that term is not used). Corresponding to 'the second death,' a phrase that Revelation does utter.







The second or general resurrection is of all the dead both righteous and unrighteous and is the resurrection of the body. It takes place at the same time for all (John 5.28-29)
The reader right above appears to define Rev 20's 'first resurrection' as the bodily resurrection of Jesus Christ, at a minimum His spirit and soul reuniting with His body, + the spiritual resurrection (regeneration) of all Christ's believers in which they become joined to Christ eternally. This Is the spiritual resurrection made possible by the physical resurrection of the Savior-Lord.
'Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who according to His great mercy, has regenerated us unto a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead' 1 Peter 1:3.
This is a believer's first experience and taste of resurrection, indeed their first resurrection. Altogether Scriptural. But this is not 'the first resurrection' of Revelation 20:5-6. As 5-6 uses that term.

It's instructive to notice here that among God's people, the Sadducees (the ancient 'modernists,' lol) denied the resurrection of the dead. Whether they believed in some sort of spiritual resurrection or renewal, I don't know. But they were palpably wrong in this regard versus the Pharisees (the ancient Jewish fundamentalists) who rightly realized physical resurrection is Scriptural, true, and no difficulty for God. Amazingly enough, the New Testament church (for example the church in Corinth) had some saints who, mentally or academically, doubted or denied resurrection. They apparently did this although they had believed into the living (resurrected) Christ! This still amazes me. But I rejoice that people can receive Christ with their believing heart, even if it advances past their (or our) ignorant intellect.

There are not too many explicit uses of the word 'resurrection' in the Bible. There is also the word 'rising' and 'raised' etc.
And also all the figures and pictures and types of resurrection. Indeed it is the very life-pulse of the good news, since the very life-pulse is God, Jesus Christ, who if He Himself were only a dead Savior, is not a very real Savior at all. So 1 Corinthians 15 is another chapter explicitly devoted to the topic of resurrection. But John 5 might be a good stop next. Since there our Lord clearly indicates the spiritual resurrection (the eternal life---John is a book of life) He came to give to His followers, followed by the physical resurrection of the saved, followed by the physical resurrection of the unsaved. The first and second resurrection of the text of Revelation 20 is not the physical resurrection of Jesus and the spiritual resurrection of His followers 'versus' physical resurrection generally. Rather it is the physical resurrection of the saved versus the physical resurrection of the unsaved generally.
 
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saints or sanctified ones, Christians or Christ ones ,anointed ones...(rom 8v9 Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.) anointed by his Spirit, will have their part in the 1st resurrection,

1co 15v51 ¶ Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,
52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.

providing they do not turn back to the world..(lots wife)
parable of the seed on different ground (holy spirit on peoples heart,types)
rev church types if they hold fast to FULL GODS WORD,etc

rev 1v5 And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood,
6 And hath made us kings and priests unto God and his Father; to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.
 
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flob

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providing they do not turn back to the world..(lots wife)
parable of the seed on different ground (holy spirit on peoples heart,types)
rev church types if they hold fast to FULL GODS WORD,etc
To the contrary:
these all, with apparently the exception of the seed that falls on the road, and is eaten by the birds before
it germinates----these all are dear believers, children of God.
Lot (and his wife) were righteous, in their status, 'in the divine nature,' but who were defeated in experience.
So they suffer temporal discipline, even punishment. But will be part of the New Jerusalem with all the saved
in the new heaven and new earth
 
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The first resurrection is of the blessed saved born again believers...the second is called the second death and is of the lost who will be judged by the law and their works..they will be fpund guilty and face punishment in the lake of fire..

The first resurrection is indicative of the judgment seat of Christ..the second is the great white throne....if you do not make the first resurrection you will be doomed to the lake of fire!
 

RickyZ

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The 1st Resurrection takes place at the Lords return before God's wrath is poured out and the 1,000 year millennial reign of Christ begins. So the enduring that Jesus talks about in Matthew 24 is facing the persecution and killing during the great tribulation period, as those who remain that are caught up are those in Christ who were not killed during this period.

The 2nd Resurrection then takes place after the 1,000 year millennial reign and those who are part of this resurrection will stand before God and face His judgment and potentially sent to the lake of fire. Those in the 1st Resurrection will not have to worry about facing this judgment.
All very true. One thing most people don't see is that the 'rapture' will involve very few people. Most of the elect are slaughtered or go apostate during the tribulation Judgments. It is at the end of these judgments that those very few remainders are taken, along with the 1st resurrection, which then clears the way for God's wrath to finish the job on earth prior to Christ's reign.

Do all Christians participate in the first resurrection? All except that very few still alive and faithful at the very end.
 
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Jeffreypaul

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The first resurrection is of the blessed saved born again believers...the second is called the second death and is of the lost who will be judged by the law and their works..they will be fpund guilty and face punishment in the lake of fire..

The first resurrection is indicative of the judgment seat of Christ..the second is the great white throne....if you do not make the first resurrection you will be doomed to the lake of fire!
The books are opened again at the great white throne Rev 20:12 he' whose name was NOT found written in the lambs book of life was cast into the lake of fire. Rev 20;15.
 

RickyZ

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That's true, keeping in mind those who's names are written in the book are those who take part in the first resurrection.
 

RickyZ

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Or are they? Some people survive God's wrath. Will we procreate during the millennium? If so will these children be given free choice? (Armageddon seems to say yes). Will some who survive wrath come to God while some who were resurrected go apostate? I'll stick with my thought that all those who's names are written in the Book take part in the first resurrection. But after that, does the book keeper still take a census?
 
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Jeffreypaul

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Or are they? Some people survive God's wrath. Will we procreate during the millennium? If so will these children be given free choice? (Armageddon seems to say yes). Will some who survive wrath come to God while some who were resurrected go apostate? I'll stick with my thought that all those who's names are written in the Book take part in the first resurrection. But after that, does the book keeper still take a census?
Thanks for your reply rickyz. So how about all those who are mortals living during the thousand years? Who will the overcomes be ruling for the thousand years? You don't believe all those mortals will be cast into the lake of fire do you?. This is that time were Isaiah says if a man live to the age of a hundred, he will be but a youth.
 
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The books are opened again at the great white throne Rev 20:12 he' whose name was NOT found written in the lambs book of life was cast into the lake of fire. Rev 20;15.

Two things....i dont recall the word "again" verse 12 chapter 20 and the words...Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the 1st resurrection<-----upon whom the 2nd death hath no power is clear...those not found in the first resurrection shall face the 2nd death which will have power over them I.E. the lost
 

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Jesus is coming soon!!! Let us prepare ourself for His second coming. Tell the truth to our family to believe Jesus, We never know when is the time event the Son of God, so only our God Father knows when the time is. But, the angels of God has ready holding the trumpets.