Do all Christians make the first resurrection?

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RickyZ

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Thanks for your reply rickyz. So how about all those who are mortals living during the thousand years? Who will the overcomes be ruling for the thousand years? You don't believe all those mortals will be cast into the lake of fire do you?. This is that time were Isaiah says if a man live to the age of a hundred, he will be but a youth.
Exactly. Like a lot of people don't realize that the rapture involves very few people, most people never realize that the millennium will have unsaved people. Whom I would assume have the opportunity to become saved. This is where that inter-dimensional interplay between time and eternity gets interesting. Anyone up to the time of Christ's return who's name is in the book will be resurrected/raptured with the first resurrection. Yet there will be names of people in the book at the second resurrection who weren't involved in the first. But, and here's where it gets really twisty, all those names were written down before the world even began! Oy vey!
 
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Jeffreypaul

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Two things....i dont recall the word "again" verse 12 chapter 20 and the words...Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the 1st resurrection<-----upon whom the 2nd death hath no power is clear...those not found in the first resurrection shall face the 2nd death which will have power over them I.E. the lost
James tells us that that of his own will he begat us that we might be a type of first fruits. James 1;18. What would be the purpose of the first fruits if there was no fruits of his creation to follow. There also will be mortals that the overcomes will rule over. Survey they will be successful in converting the nations. That is the purpose of these righteous rulers. The Melchisedek priesthood are priest of rightousness.
 
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Jeffreypaul

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Exactly. Like a lot of people don't realize that the rapture involves very few people, most people never realize that the millennium will have unsaved people. Whom I would assume have the opportunity to become saved. This is where that inter-dimensional interplay between time and eternity gets interesting. Anyone up to the time of Christ's return who's name is in the book will be resurrected/raptured with the first resurrection. Yet there will be names of people in the book at the second resurrection who weren't involved in the first. But, and here's where it gets really twisty, all those names were written down before the world even began! Oy vey!
Yes rickyz, I believe every man in his order as Paul tells us.
 
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James tells us that that of his own will he begat us that we might be a type of first fruits. James 1;18. What would be the purpose of the first fruits if there was no fruits of his creation to follow. There also will be mortals that the overcomes will rule over. Survey they will be successful in converting the nations. That is the purpose of these righteous rulers. The Melchisedek priesthood are priest of rightousness.
Jesus is called the firstfruits and so are the 144000 of Revelation....and what of the saints who rose with Jesus?
The harvest started 2000 years ago or so and if i remember right the words "type of firstfruits" is used....don't quote me..I am sick and in bed and a little fuzzie from jet lag..no sleep and this cold I cought in Austraila......ah yes I see you posted James..a type of...
 
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Jeffreypaul

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Yes rickyz, I believe every man in his order as Paul tells us.
theoretically speaking, if israel would have entered the "promise land" at the appointed time, Josephs bones would have been resurrected and they would have converted Canaan with the sword of the spirit. God was giving us a glimpse of his intentions through types and shadows of israel. Of course this didn't happen seeing that God had some better things for us that they with out us would not be made perfect. Israel was to have slaves in there time. Slavery in the law of God was different then what many think. A slave owner then was a redeemer. Israel was to redeem the nations by God's ways. This was only a peek of what will happen when the overcomes are raised they will rule in rightouseness. Peace br.
 
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Hoffco

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To get the full picture of any teaching of the Bible we must begin in Matthew and pick up every verse on the subject, topic, we are studying, and let each new verses add light to the previous verses we have gathered in the earlier books, all the way through Revelation. We need to fit it all together and not allow it contradict itself. New revelation from God always is complimentary to the earlier verses. The book of Revelation is the last word from God and the order of the future is clearly laid out for all to see. We must get the order of events in Revelation right and fit the rest of the N.T. into Revelation. Ptr. Doug, Hoffco
 
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Hoffco

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Rev. has at least three stages of the FIRST resurrection, for us saints: The 1st. stage is Jesus' Rapture of all the saint from Adam to Jesus' time of the rapture. The 2nd. is the raising of the dead 144,000 Jews, killed by the antichrist. I don't think any Gentiles will be saved in the time of God's wrath. The Jews who at saved at Jesus' coming to reign, I think, will be the only save persons to go into the Millennium as saved. all the living Gentiles will go into the thousand yr. Reign of Jesus as unsaved. The Jews will be able to procreate and also the unsaved Gentiles will be able to procreate in the !,000 yr rules of Jesus. At the end of 1,000 yrs, the saved will have to receive resurrected bodies ,somehow, as raptured or raise, this is the third stage of the FIRST resurrection. ??? This could be the "many" raised at the very END, of time. Love to all, Hoffco
 
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Hoffco

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Hi dcountroversal, you flew over my home in Davao City, Philippines. As to the revelation of God's word, please keep in mind, the Old T. was in small pieces and the New T. give the real fuller meanings. Love Hoffco
 
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oldthennew

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REV.11:11-12.
And after three days and an half the Spirit of life from God entered into them,
and they stood upon their feet; and great fear fell upon them which saw them.

And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, Come up hither.
And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud; and their enemies beheld them...

Then the seventh angel sounded...

and the first shall be last and the last shall be first...