Are Many Spirit Filled, ie Spreak in Tongues on this site ??

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The ones that bother me are those who think if you don't have the gift of tongues, you aren't born again. I wasted 6 years of being a believer thinking I wasn't because I couldn't speak in tongues. Ends up, I can't teach either, which is a bigger problem but rarely addressed in the same depth.

The all-about-tongues people who give all kinds of lessons on tongues when that's not the subject are simply like a mosquito bite. May bother me for a little while, but it goes away quickly enough.
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what gets me is when people confuse the "baptism" of the spirit with the "anointing" of the spirit.

The baptism of the spirit is what saves us, (1 cor 12, romans 6, titus 3:5, col 2: 12)

the anointing of the spirit is what comes after we are saved, and where we get our gifts from. One of the gifts possibly being tongues. and your right, Not all people will have the gift of tongues, and it does not prove your saved if you do, and not saved if you do not.

(I have seen many a false tongues garb so speaking in tongues does not even prove your saved)
 
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I would encourage you to read anything you can about John G. Lake or Smith Wigglesworth, who deal with this particular subject very well. John G. Lake's sermons provide biblical fuel that will refute any of those above mentioned falsehoods. This is not just a topic that appeared today..this has been dealt with since the early days of the Christian church...even before catholicism set in. People cut themselves short when they ASSUME that spiritual healings, deliverances, signs and wonder were just for yesteryear.
 
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I understand that the belief in speaking in tongues as the modern charismatic movement defines them may be an emotionsl issue, especially when someone questions the validity of the relative, emotional experience a charismatic false tongue is. I ask you though to read through scripture and consider, is God a God of confusion?

I will also preempt those that believe calling me a cessationist is edifying as i said above, i know people who have actually spoken in tongues
 
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KonradC131 said:
I understand that the belief in speaking in tongues as the modern charismatic movement defines them may be an emotionsl issue, especially when someone questions the validity of the relative, emotional experience a charismatic false tongue is. I ask you though to read through scripture and consider, is God a God of confusion?

I will also preempt those that believe calling me a cessationist is edifying as i said above, i know people who have actually spoken in tongues
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Speaking in tongues has certainly not ceased. Yes some misuse it but that does not mean the gift is not real or not for today.
 
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Where in the bible is the anointing of the spirit vs the baptising of the spirit?
 
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kaylagrl said:
Speaking in tongues has certainly not ceased. Yes some misuse it but that does not mean the gift is not real or not for today.
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As i clearly said. I know a missionary who visited China and God was amazing! He used that missionary to speak chinese, a language the missionary didnt know, to call a group to Christ.
 
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KonradC131 said:
I understand that the belief in speaking in tongues as the modern charismatic movement defines them may be an emotionsl issue, especially when someone questions the validity of the relative, emotional experience a charismatic false tongue is. I ask you though to read through scripture and consider, is God a God of confusion?

I will also preempt those that believe calling me a cessationist is edifying as i said above, i know people who have actually spoken in tongues
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Are they 'edifying' to you 'only', as they have 'spoken', without 'interpretation', according to the 'written' Holy Scripture?

'I understand', therefore it is your 'own' belief?
 
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kaylagrl

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KonradC131 said:
As i clearly said. I know a missionary who visited China and God was amazing! He used that missionary to speak chinese, a language the missionary didnt know, to call a group to Christ.
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So you are only speaking about order in the church considering tongues? I dont know how I missed that post,sometimes they slip by when two people are posting at the same moment.
 
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kaylagrl

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fredjames said:
Are they 'edifying' to you 'only', as they have 'spoken', without 'interpretation', according to the 'written' Holy Scripture?

'I understand', therefore it is your 'own' belief?
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Some people pray in tongues privately but when someone speaks in a congregation setting there must be an interpretation according to the NT.
 
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fredjames said:
Are they 'edifying' to you 'only', as they have 'spoken', without 'interpretation', according to the 'written' Holy Scripture?

'I understand', therefore it is your 'own' belief?
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Without 'interpretation', please remain 'silent', and speak in your heart with GOD, and 'edify' oneself, and not 'benefiting' others in the 'Church'

GOD bless in the name of LORD JESUS CHRIST.
 
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Anyone who speaks in a tongue edifies themselves, but the one who prophesies edifies the church. 5 I would like every one of you to speak in tongues, but I would rather have you prophesy. The one who prophesies is greater than the one who speaks in tongues,[c] unless someone interprets, so that the church may be edified.

I thank God that I speak in tongues more than all of you. 19 But in the church I would rather speak five intelligible words to instruct others than ten thousand words in a tongue.
 
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kaylagrl said:
Some people pray in tongues privately but when someone speaks in a congregation setting there must be an interpretation according to the NT.
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Dearly beloved 'kaylagirl', please according to the Holy Scripture, the 'interpretation' is according to the 'unknown tongues spoken in the Church', and only 'two or three at a time' at a time, and the others take 'turn', so that 'all believers' who 'hear' them in 'interpretation' in common understanding 'language', understand what have been the 'intercession' with GOD, in order 'altogether' to say 'Amen' (1 Corinthians chapter 14, in 'context), 'period'.

GOD bless you all in the name of LORD JESUS CHRIST.
 
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kaylagrl

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fredjames said:
Dearly beloved 'kaylagirl', please according to the Holy Scripture, the 'interpretation' is according to the 'unknown tongues spoken in the Church', and only 'two or three at a time' at a time, and the others take 'turn', so that 'all believers' who 'hear' them in 'interpretation' in common understanding 'language', understand what have been the 'intercession' with GOD, in order 'altogether' to say 'Amen' (1 Corinthians chapter 14, in 'context), 'period'.

GOD bless you all in the name of LORD JESUS CHRIST.
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Yes,I agree there must be order followed when speaking in tongues.
 
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KonradC131 said:
Anyone who speaks in a tongue edifies themselves, but the one who prophesies edifies the church. 5 I would like every one of you to speak in tongues, but I would rather have you prophesy. The one who prophesies is greater than the one who speaks in tongues,[c] unless someone interprets, so that the church may be edified.

I thank God that I speak in tongues more than all of you. 19 But in the church I would rather speak five intelligible words to instruct others than ten thousand words in a tongue.
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Paul was not demeaning the value of tongues or the importance of the gift. Rather he was emphasizing the edification of others within the body of Christ. He clearly states the one who prophesies is greater in edifying others unless someone interprets the tongues, in which case the person speaking in tongues is not less important in the edification of others.

Its not as if the gifts are some badges of honor, they are tools for the job. That job is edifying others.
 
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kaylagrl said:
Yes,I agree there must be order followed when speaking in tongues.
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Have all of us forgotten chapter 14, 'as it is written' and by the 'Help' of the 'HOLY SPIRIT', as 'sound doctrine spiritual knowledge' according to 'context' faith, the New Covenant/Testament/Agreement, which all of us are called, 'by Grace and through faith, the gift of GOD', in 'order' to 'practice' and 'abide' and 'bear much fruit' and 'our fruit must abide'?
 
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fredjames said:
Have all of us forgotten chapter 14, 'as it is written' and by the 'Help' of the 'HOLY SPIRIT', as 'sound doctrine spiritual knowledge' according to 'context' faith, the New Covenant/Testament/Agreement, which all of us are called, 'by Grace and through faith, the gift of GOD', in 'order' to 'practice' and 'abide' and 'bear much fruit' and 'our fruit must abide'?
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As oneness 'Church/A Gathering' and according to 'Apostle Paul, the 'instrument of CHRIST for us', and not 'Pentecost' in the beginning?

As it is written;

"Wake up and stay alert, ..............................................................................."
 
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fredjames said:
Have all of us forgotten chapter 14, 'as it is written' and by the 'Help' of the 'HOLY SPIRIT', as 'sound doctrine spiritual knowledge' according to 'context' faith, the New Covenant/Testament/Agreement, which all of us are called, 'by Grace and through faith, the gift of GOD', in 'order' to 'practice' and 'abide' and 'bear much fruit' and 'our fruit must abide'?
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I said that I do agree with the order of tongues that you posted. I agree with that post.
 
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fredjames said:
As oneness 'Church/A Gathering' and according to 'Apostle Paul, the 'instrument of CHRIST for us', and not 'Pentecost' in the beginning?

As it is written;

"Wake up and stay alert, ..............................................................................."
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If 'these' and 'as it is written' is not 'manifesting' in 'spiritual knowledge faith and action faith' and in Christian churches, even today, therefore their 'witnessing' to the 'lost', are 'witnessing' in 'lawlessness'.
 
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fredjames

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kaylagrl said:
I said that I do agree with the order of tongues that you posted. I agree with that post.
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Well you have 'asked the order' and the 'order' is already given by the LORD JESUS CHRIST, and by the 'help' of our given HOLY SPIRIT, who have 'inspired' the 'all written Holy Scripture'.

What are you 'babbling about still', for the sake of the 'lambs and sheep' in this 'forum' who are 'witnessing'?
 
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kaylagrl

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fredjames said:
Well you have 'asked the order' and the 'order' is already given by the LORD JESUS CHRIST, and by the 'help' of our given HOLY SPIRIT, who have 'inspired' the 'all written Holy Scripture'.

What are you 'babbling about still', for the sake of the 'lambs and sheep' in this 'forum' who are 'witnessing'?
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No,I didnt ask you a question at all. You spoke about the order of tongues I agreed with you. Im not babbling.I already agreed with you.
 
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