I am Muslim, can you permit without locking or banning
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I think we'll be eating and drinking on the New Heavens and the New Earth. We won't need to, but I think we will, as it's just another way to enjoy God's Creation and to worship Him. Yes, food is about relationship, but it's also tangible in the Bible. It's about bringing people together, while nourishing them. It's not purely a spiritual thing. God is very much concerned with the physical realm too.
'As it is written';
"That which is born of the flesh is flesh and that which is born of the SPIRIT is spirit."
"The God of this world have blinded the minds of unbelievers."
Quran's picture of paradise is earthly and it is the paradise of satan, the pattern of this world, blinding the minds of unbelievers. It is like men having a paradise vacation in Bahamas and with ten virgins serving and entertaining them. This fits the saying of JESUS, 'that which is born of the flesh is flesh'.
HOLY BIBLE's paradise is Heaven itself, the kingdom of the Living GOD. This also fits the saying of JESUS in continue, 'and that which is born of the SPIRIT in spirit'.
Thank you and GOD bless you in the name of LORD JESUS CHRIST.
"That which is born of the flesh is flesh and that which is born of the SPIRIT is spirit."
"The God of this world have blinded the minds of unbelievers."
Quran's picture of paradise is earthly and it is the paradise of satan, the pattern of this world, blinding the minds of unbelievers. It is like men having a paradise vacation in Bahamas and with ten virgins serving and entertaining them. This fits the saying of JESUS, 'that which is born of the flesh is flesh'.
HOLY BIBLE's paradise is Heaven itself, the kingdom of the Living GOD. This also fits the saying of JESUS in continue, 'and that which is born of the SPIRIT in spirit'.
Thank you and GOD bless you in the name of LORD JESUS CHRIST.
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Yeah, but eternity! Do you think we're still physical then?
IDK. I have just been assuming spiritual beings, because I can't imagine a physical body lasting forever. This one started degrading on my 41st birthday.
On the other hand, food! Surely there are raspberries and chocolate in heaven.
(I also don't get why we get a new earth if God's in heaven still. I'm really looking forward to seeing him, hearing him, smelling him -- I bet he smells like frankincense and the best quality of olive oil -- and feeling him nonstop.)
(Anyone else noticing the OP never returned to this post? He's posted other stuff, but didn't come back to this one where he was going to prove we're all wrong.)
IDK. I have just been assuming spiritual beings, because I can't imagine a physical body lasting forever. This one started degrading on my 41st birthday.
On the other hand, food! Surely there are raspberries and chocolate in heaven.
(I also don't get why we get a new earth if God's in heaven still. I'm really looking forward to seeing him, hearing him, smelling him -- I bet he smells like frankincense and the best quality of olive oil -- and feeling him nonstop.)
(Anyone else noticing the OP never returned to this post? He's posted other stuff, but didn't come back to this one where he was going to prove we're all wrong.)
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Yes. I do think we'll have physical bodies on the New Heaven and the New Earth. The Bible talks about having glorified new bodies. We're not going to be floating spirits or whatever. That's not biblical, that's Gnosticism or Eastern Mysticism. Heaven will come to a New Earth. So we'll live with Christ for all eternity on the New Heavens and the New Earth. In short, the New Universe of Awesomeness!
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I wasn't thinking no-see-'em bodies. I was thinking something...well kind of like the aliens in Cocoon but without normal human eyes. lol
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LOL
Yeah, I see that.
But I'm thinking no way of getting a sunburn or dry skin, no sweat, no need for clothes, no need to worry about our hair, eyebrows, shape, they float, so no worries about compressed spines, or broken limbs, all kind of uniformed so no need or desire to try to be different/special/better-than, no dirty fingernails, no need to bathe, no need to blow our nose or get wax out of our ears... and I can keep going. lol
Yeah, I see that.
But I'm thinking no way of getting a sunburn or dry skin, no sweat, no need for clothes, no need to worry about our hair, eyebrows, shape, they float, so no worries about compressed spines, or broken limbs, all kind of uniformed so no need or desire to try to be different/special/better-than, no dirty fingernails, no need to bathe, no need to blow our nose or get wax out of our ears... and I can keep going. lol
I m sinsere. what I say is what i believe in and what I know
being rude, bad is apostasy.
I am a sinner like you. and I son't believe Jesus die for me ; like John baptiser don't die for me.
if you are in need to repent is absolutly easy pray with tears for your sin? and God the merciful forgive you. why this difficult scenario. he send his son to be made to death?
being rude, bad is apostasy.
I am a sinner like you. and I son't believe Jesus die for me ; like John baptiser don't die for me.
if you are in need to repent is absolutly easy pray with tears for your sin? and God the merciful forgive you. why this difficult scenario. he send his son to be made to death?
Bahous, I think it is admirable that you stand up for what you believe in. If you are in fact, out of love trying to teach us what is truth, than I respect your intentions. However, once you know truth and have clearly seen it as a "born again" believer has, than trying to convince them otherwise is futile. It is like a five year old trying to convince an adult that Santa Claus is real, or a blind man trying to tell a seeing man they are going the wrong way. Islam does worship a god, but it is not the Most High God. They are not the same. Our Bible has given us many prophecies and they are unfolding. Soon destruction will be upon the earth. There is only One that will save, I hope you realize before it is too late that it is Yeshua, the Son of the Most High. He opened our eyes and causes us to see truth. If you are a seeker of truth, then you too will come to the same place we are, hopefully sooner than later. May God Almighty light your path and help you to see truth.
