atwhatcost, there you go again. Now you're solely blaming me. As to the woman with the husband who was ministering to the family, her husband ON HIS OWN, without her asking, turned off his FB so that woman couldn't contact him anymore. I never suggested NOT to help them, just to cut down the contact somewhat. The woman was sending him skimpy pics of herself to the guy, and his wife had every right to be upset. Fortunately that situation has now resolved itself.
Sorry, but there's no such thing as PERFECT counseling. Even the best counselors in the world aren't perfect at it..lol.. so there you go again, ASSUMING.
Once again, I do not lurk. Do I return to threads sometimes? Yes, of course, we all do. YOU however have stated "I make it my business to lurk." Why? What do you hope to catch the guys on here saying? Something you can use against in a later post, as you ARE doing with me and some others right now? I could care less if people lurk on threads.
BTW, alot of these cases you're presenting, those OP's HAVE contacted me via PM. So stop ASSUMING that YOU know the full story, when obviously you don't know that I know the fully stories. Gotta work hard on those assumptions, Lynn.
I believe God can do anything. ANYTHING. But I also think that he USES divorce as a tool to introduce something better into those couple's lives.
If there is no love or trust or fidelity in marriage, then it's not a marriage that God intended it to be. Yes, I agree sometimes I do tell them to divorce, and thats not always a bad thing. YOU act like it's a mortal sin to tell someone to divorce-- it isn't. Divorce is often God's way of saying "this isn't for you anymore. I have something better." And if someone wants a divorce because their partner is beating them, then what should I say? Something like "just stay long enough so he can bash your head in and kill you"? YOU WOULD TELL HER TO LEAVE HER ABUSER.
Sarcasm begets sarcasm, Lynn. YOU are sarcastic in ALL of your posts, from the day you joined here. I am sure I could dig up countless examples. As for me, I'm only sarcastic when presented specifically with it.
You keep saying "I'm hurting." Please tell me, specifically, WHAT you think I'm hurting from? It's not from any past nor present experiences, because I've let those all go long time ago. So what ASSUMED hurt do you think I'm suffering from?
Are you angry or frustrated that not everyone has the same opinions that you do? We ARE all different, you know. No one is going to agree with everything that anyone says. and if you expect everyone to be in line with YOUR answers, you're sorely mistaken.
I get where your coming from. But you just wont let it go. I have tried making peace with you, kayla and pres19 have tried. And still all YOU do is ATTACK us, and make up some crazy reason why we must be "hurting" and that's why we answer these people the way we do. Stop attacking us, we're not the enemy.. really we aren't.
I have seen people call you snarky, rude, vindictive and self-righteous. You go wayyyy beyond any of that. lol..
Lessons for YOU to learn: stop assuming all the time, stop being sarcastic in EVERY post, stop being snarky, snide and rude.
Lessons for ME to learn: start putting grace and assumptions into practice, stop replying to posts that I clearly don't agree with, and accept that there will be others who disagree with my opinions, WITHOUT attacking them for their own opinions.
You're in contact with the one who wants the abortion. Why don't you tell us what she's deciding and how she's doing, instead of railing against us every chance you get about how horrible our responses to her were? She hasn't responded in over a week. Surely she can't be sleeping all this time, as she said she was before..
So stop beaching at us. Take a look at your own self and stop attacking us for what YOU think is making us react the way we do. I could easily be on your case all the time, leaving constant replies to how rude and sarcastic you are. But I don't, because I don't stalk people through the forums. I don't sit on threads for hours, refreshing the page every five minutes so I can see what the men on here are talking about when women aren't around. So if you think they can't see you, you're wrong. All they have to do is look at the bottom of the page and see your name..lol
If love flows into me, why doesn't it pass through? It does, but even Jesus was harsh and sarcastic sometimes. Several felt nothing but rebukal by him. If I'm harsh and whatnot sometimes, then I'm only displaying that side of Jesus. And yes, being more loving is something I will work on as well.
Hopefully I wont get another, judgemental, self-righteous, accusatory, indignant reply from you. Although I'm sure I probably will..lol.. I'm trying to resolve this back and forth bickering, Lynn but you gotta put in your own peacemaking too. As kayla said, let's agree to disagree and move on.
Okay?