People Who Never Have the Chance to be Saved

Sariah · Aug 3, 2015

Hi I am a Mormon who is currently looking into Christianity. I have been wondering if anyone knows what happens to the people who simply did not get the opportunity to learn about Jesus and accept Him? Are they automatically going to hell? I'm talking about the people who would have accepted Jesus if they could. This describes billions of people... If they do go to hell, that makes God seem like a partial God because He put some of His children in places where they could be saved and others in places where He knew would never get that opportunity. This idea bothers me soo much. Do Christians really believe this? Anyway, thank you in advance for your answers!
God bless!

atwhatcost · Aug 3, 2015

Sariah said:

You mean like Noah? Job? Abraham? Jacob? Joseph? David?

God has always had everyone covered for knowing him.

Rom. 1:19 For what can be known about God is plain to them, because God has shown it to them. 20 For his invisible attributes, namely, his eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly perceived, ever since the creation of the world, in the things that have been made. So they are without excuse.

Sariah · Aug 3, 2015

If everyone knew God, then why are there evangelists and missionaries trying to save people?

atwhatcost · Aug 3, 2015

Sariah said:

Everyone loves John 3:16. Very few get into Jesus' entire thought followed through into the next verses.
16 “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life.17 For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him.18 Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only Son of God.19 And this is the judgment: the light has come into the world, and people loved the darkness rather than the light because their works were evil.20 For everyone who does wicked things hates the light and does not come to the light, lest his works should be exposed.21 But whoever does what is true comes to the light, so that it may be clearly seen that his works have been carried out in God.”

We tell the world so God can light some darkness.

atwhatcost · Aug 3, 2015

We know him. By sin nature, we also hate him, unless his light shines on us.

Magenta · Aug 3, 2015

Sariah said:

Do Mormons not consider themselves Christian?

Gr8grace · Aug 3, 2015

Sariah said:

God is Just and righteous. He leaves no one out of His salvation plan. If a person is stranded on a island and has never heard the Gospel...............the Holy Spirit will evangelize to them.

Under normal circumstances He uses other people as His main way. Its a honor and a gift to evangelize for Him.

Salvation is a equal privilege, equal opportunity for ALL. We can just reject it if we want.

Christ drew all men to Him when He was lifted up on the cross. He left not a soul out. We can choose death if we want to.

He set life or death before mankind. We make the choice.

And we don't "see" the super natural evangelizing of the Spirit where missionaries or evangelists haven't been.

A just and righteous God doesn't give an opportunity to some and not to others.

notuptome · Aug 3, 2015

John 3:20 pretty much covers it all.

John 3:15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.
16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.
21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.

Men choose evil over God. Romans 1 also speaks of this in the latter parts of the chapter.

God has concluded all in unbelief the He (God) might have mercy on all.

God treats all men equally but since He is God He already knows what each man will do with his choice.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

Gr8grace · Aug 3, 2015

And you can look at this as your chance. You can reject Him or you can believe that He died for you personally. He had YOU in His mind when He died. He is an omnipresent God, and to Him it is as if it just you and Him on this earth. He is a personal God and don't think that He didn't have YOU personally in His mind when He died for you.

At this moment you can form just the thoughts in your head that YOU believe that God sent His Son to die on the cross for YOU and YOUR sins. And He WILL give you eternal life.

Utah · Aug 3, 2015

Sariah said:

Hi I am a Mormon who is currently looking into Christianity. I have been wondering if anyone knows what happens to the people who simply did not get the opportunity to learn about Jesus and accept Him? Are they automatically going to hell? I'm talking about the people who would have accepted Jesus if they could. This describes billions of people... If they do go to hell, that makes God seem like a partial God because He put some of His children in places where they could be saved and others in places where He knew would never get that opportunity. This idea bothers me soo much. Do Christians really believe this? Anyway, thank you in advance for your answers!
God bless!

God is loving, merciful and just. No need to worry.

MarcR · Aug 3, 2015

Sariah,

We raed in 2 Peter 3:9
9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. KJV

While in Matt 28:19-20
19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen. KJV; so we have a commission, and a duty to lead others to the truth;

but in Acts 8:26-40
26 And the angel of the Lord spake unto Philip, saying, Arise, and go toward the south unto the way that goeth down from Jerusalem unto Gaza, which is desert.
27 And he arose and went: and, behold, a man of Ethiopia, an eunuch of great authority under Candace queen of the Ethiopians, who had the charge of all her treasure, and had come to Jerusalem for to worship,
28 Was returning, and sitting in his chariot read Esaias the prophet.
29 Then the Spirit said unto Philip, Go near, and join thyself to this chariot.
30 And Philip ran thither to him, and heard him read the prophet Esaias, and said, Understandest thou what thou readest?
31 And he said, How can I, except some man should guide me? And he desired Philip that he would come up and sit with him.
32 The place of the scripture which he read was this, He was led as a sheep to the slaughter; and like a lamb dumb before his shearer, so opened he not his mouth:
33 In his humiliation his judgment was taken away: and who shall declare his generation? for his life is taken from the earth.
34 And the eunuch answered Philip, and said, I pray thee, of whom speaketh the prophet this? of himself, or of some other man?
35 Then Philip opened his mouth, and began at the same scripture, and preached unto him Jesus.
36 And as they went on their way, they came unto a certain water: and the eunuch said, See, here is water; what doth hinder me to be baptized?
37 And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.
38 And he commanded the chariot to stand still: and they went down both into the water, both Philip and the eunuch; and he baptized him.
39 And when they were come up out of the water, the Spirit of the Lord caught away Philip, that the eunuch saw him no more: and he went on his way rejoicing.
40 But Philip was found at Azotus: and passing through he preached in all the cities, till he came to Caesarea. KJV,

We see that God is willing to intervene dieectly to ensure that none lack opportunity.

Sariah · Aug 3, 2015

Yes Mormons consider themselves to be Christian. A lot of Christians do not consider Mormons to be Christian though because the LDS church doesn't believe in the Trinity.

Dan58 · Aug 3, 2015

Sariah said:

No one automatically goes to hell, that's a destination we earn.

God is fair, no one will perish without first being given the opportunity to repent and receive Christ. Jesus came to set the captives free, all who have sinned from the beginning of time; "The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised,To preach the acceptable year of the Lord" (Luke 4:18-19). After his crucifixion, "He went and preached unto the spirits in prison". I believe he gives everyone the opportunity that we have today, to repent and accept his sacrifice. Everyone who died without knowledge of his salvation will not be denied the opportunity to receive it. That is what the millennium is for, a time of teaching. God is righteous, no one will perish unjustly... jmo

notuptome · Aug 3, 2015

Sariah said:

It goes quite a bit deeper than that but if Jesus is not God incarnate then there is no Savior and no Christianity.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

InSpiritInTruth · Aug 3, 2015

Sariah said:

The Lord will have mercy on whom He will have mercy.

Romans 9:8-24 "That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed.[SUP]9 [/SUP]For this is the word of promise, At this time will I come, and Sarah shall have a son.
[SUP]10 [/SUP]And not only this; but when Rebecca also had conceived by one, even by our father Isaac;
[SUP]11 [/SUP](For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth)
[SUP]12 [/SUP]It was said unto her, The elder shall serve the younger.
[SUP]13 [/SUP]As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.
[SUP]14 [/SUP]What shall we say then? Is there unrighteousness with God? God forbid.
[SUP]15 [/SUP]For he saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion.
[SUP]16 [/SUP]So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy.
[SUP]17 [/SUP]For the scripture saith unto Pharaoh, Even for this same purpose have I raised thee up, that I might shew my power in thee, and that my name might be declared throughout all the earth.
[SUP]18 [/SUP]Therefore hath he mercy on whom he will have mercy, and whom he will he hardeneth.
[SUP]19 [/SUP]Thou wilt say then unto me, Why doth he yet find fault? For who hath resisted his will?
[SUP]20 [/SUP]Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus?
[SUP]21 [/SUP]Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?
[SUP]22 [/SUP]What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction:
[SUP]23 [/SUP]And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory,
[SUP]24 [/SUP]Even us, whom he hath called, not of the Jews only, but also of the Gentiles?

Magenta · Aug 3, 2015

Sariah said:

LDS believe Jesus is the spirit brother of Satan, that God has not always been the Supreme Being of the universe, that God the Father has a body of flesh and bones as tangible as man’s, that God was once a man just like us, and men can likewise become as God and rule their own universe. Mormon leaders have taught that Jesus’ incarnation was the result of a physical relationship between God the Father and Mary (Journal of Discourses, vol. 8, p. 115; Mormon Doctrine, p. 547). Mormon beliefs do not reflect what the Bible teaches.

oldhermit · Aug 3, 2015

Sariah said:

Hi I am a Mormon who is currently looking into Christianity. I have been wondering if anyone knows what happens to the people who simply did not get the opportunity to learn about Jesus and accept Him? Are they automatically going to hell? I'm talking about the people who would have accepted Jesus if they could. This describes billions of people... If they do go to hell, that makes God seem like a partial God because He put some of His children in places where they could be saved and others in places where He knew would never get that opportunity. This idea bothers me soo much. Do Christians really believe this? Anyway, thank you in advance for your answers!
God bless!

People are not lost because they have never heard the gospel. They are lost because they are in sin.

atwhatcost · Aug 3, 2015

Gr8grace said:

Our choice does not save us. We made our choices from the beginning.

Gen. 6:5 The Lord saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every intention of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.

His choice saves us.

John 6:35 Jesus said to them, “I am the bread of life; whoever comes to me shall not hunger, and whoever believes in me shall never thirst. 36 But I said to you that you have seen me and yet do not believe. 37 All that the Father gives me will come to me, and whoever comes to me I will never cast out. 38 For I have come down from heaven, not to do my own will but the will of him who sent me.39 And this is the will of him who sent me, that I should lose nothing of all that he has given me, but raise it up on the last day. 40 For this is the will of my Father, that everyone who looks on the Son and believes in him should have eternal life, and I will raise him up on the last day.”

The Father chooses. The Son gets and keeps. Our choice was always to hide in the darkness to keep our sin.

Gr8grace · Aug 3, 2015

atwhatcost said:

The object of our choice saves us. Not our choice.

Genesis 6:5 and the flood account never tells us that they were all unbelievers. Believers can be very wicked and evil. But they are still saved and can be put to physical death as divine punishment.

40 For this is the will of my Father, that everyone who looks on the Son and believes in him should have eternal life, and I will raise him up on the last day.”

Looks and believes is in the active voice. The "everyone" actively looks and believes in Him. Then the Holy Spirit makes that faith effectual for salvation.

2 Cor 6:2~~New American Standard Bible
for He says, "AT THE ACCEPTABLE TIME I LISTENED TO YOU, AND ON THE DAY OF SALVATION I HELPED YOU." Behold, now is "THE ACCEPTABLE TIME," behold, now is "THE DAY OF SALVATION "--

The Father chooses us based upon our belief.

Magenta · Aug 3, 2015

Gr8grace said:

If you declare with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you profess your faith and are saved. Romans 10:9-10

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