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You musta seen a different video than I did then. The one I saw, all the cop kept saying was "Sit down" and "You dont have to swear at me like that." He did NOT explain why he was cuffing the kid.
We sure must have seen a different video. There was never even ONE mention of swearing. The officer told the boy. "You don't get to SWING at me like that."

I can see jumping at the conclusion you are hoping to find, but you can't just invent things that aren't even there.
 

Nautilus

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Well first you put ADD and autism in the same sentence when the two arent even closely related and add isn't a mental illness its bad parenting. You know what parents did to rambunctious kids who couldnt sit still? They disciplined them with a spanking not shot them full of the ritalin choice of the month because oh no spanking might be abuse. So what the cops put him in handcuffs maybe it will teach him next time his behavior isnt acceptable and he can learn about responsibility for his actions. But now blame the cop and the supposed 'mental illness'. This is whats wrong with america, everyone has an excuse for everything and everyone. Its pathetic.
 

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Far more are honest, upright and moral -- far more -- than are not. Your reference to "some" being honest rather than admitting that most, the vast majority, are honest tells me I'm not wrong about your bias.

You see and hear it on the news everyday because it isn't news to report that an officer went through an eight- or ten-hour shift and did exactly what he was supposed to do.


Which is what 99.99999999% of them do.

Your use of the ghetto-language "po-po" belies your protest. If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck ...

Oh c'mon now. ALOT of people use the word "po-po". Heck, even my friend who IS a cop refers to them as that. lol.. Tell me how many are "some" and how many are "most"? Can you give me an approximate number on that? I didn't think so.

Now back to that child. Wasnt there some other way to restrain the child without having to cuff him and scare him half to death? I still think the cop could have dealt with it differently.

Let's just agree to disagree. Then we can ALL live in peace..lol.. even the cops. :rolleyes:
 
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Well first you put ADD and autism in the same sentence when the two arent even closely related and add isn't a mental illness its bad parenting. You know what parents did to rambunctious kids who couldnt sit still? They disciplined them with a spanking not shot them full of the ritalin choice of the month because oh no spanking might be abuse. So what the cops put him in handcuffs maybe it will teach him next time his behavior isnt acceptable and he can learn about responsibility for his actions. But now blame the cop and the supposed 'mental illness'. This is whats wrong with america, everyone has an excuse for everything and everyone. Its pathetic.
THIS needs to be told far and wide. (although often I do believe the 90% sugar diet we shovel into kids ends up physically and mentally affecting them)
 

blue_ladybug

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It seems like you are biased also, seeing as how you work with them..lol.. :rolleyes: Now who's quacking? :p
 

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Well first you put ADD and autism in the same sentence when the two arent even closely related and add isn't a mental illness its bad parenting. You know what parents did to rambunctious kids who couldnt sit still? They disciplined them with a spanking not shot them full of the ritalin choice of the month because oh no spanking might be abuse. So what the cops put him in handcuffs maybe it will teach him next time his behavior isnt acceptable and he can learn about responsibility for his actions. But now blame the cop and the supposed 'mental illness'. This is whats wrong with america, everyone has an excuse for everything and everyone. Its pathetic.

Really? Because there are plenty of people that grow up under good parenting, yet they still have ADD. It does have something to do with the brain, and mental illness is a real thing. Even Jesus talks about heart, MIND, and soul.
 

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Im sure some ARE honest, upright and moral. But alot of others are not. You see and hear it on the news, radio and tv every day. And no, once again, in case your eyesight is failing you, :) I am not bigoted against the po-po.. I just think there are several corrupt ones, that's all. :)
That is a moral panic. Back in the 80s and 90s everyone thought juveniles were becoming super criminals, because of the media. The panic was unfounded. Most of the police are good, it is the few bad ones who get on the news. The media focuses on what will lead.
 

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THIS needs to be told far and wide. (although often I do believe the 90% sugar diet we shovel into kids ends up physically and mentally affecting them)
GMOs do have something to do with it. But although that is a major part, people with ADD do differ. But I agree with the 90% of sugary diets, because you don't see as many as those that eat GMO free and organic foods.
 

blue_ladybug

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That is a moral panic. Back in the 80s and 90s everyone thought juveniles were becoming super criminals, because of the media. The panic was unfounded. Most of the police are good, it is the few bad ones who get on the news. The media focuses on what will lead.

And that's precisely why it seems like there ALOT more bad ones than good ones. The media manipulates the news, everybody knows that. Bad news brings in ratings. :/
 

blue_ladybug

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GMOs do have something to do with it. But although that is a major part, people with ADD do differ. But I agree with the 90% of sugary diets, because you don't see as many as those that eat GMO free and organic foods.

I read this first line as "GHOSTS do have something to do with it." :confused: lol..
 
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Oh c'mon now. ALOT of people use the word "po-po". Heck, even my friend who IS a cop refers to them as that. lol.. Tell me how many are "some" and how many are "most"? Can you give me an approximate number on that? I didn't think so.
I can tell you factually and for certain it is less than 1%, but you won't believe that.

Now back to that child. Wasnt there some other way to restrain the child without having to cuff him and scare him half to death? I still think the cop could have dealt with it differently.
From the video, by your own admission, there was an altercation before the cuffs came out, and as has been pointed out to you, the officer was respectful, gentle, and professional, even while restraining the young man. The fact you don't like it is irrelevant.

Then we can ALL live in peace..lol.. even the cops. :rolleyes:
Had to get one last shot in at the police, didn't you? Your #BlackLivesMatter t-shirt and bumper sticker are in the mail.


 

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Really? Because there are plenty of people that grow up under good parenting, yet they still have ADD. It does have something to do with the brain, and mental illness is a real thing. Even Jesus talks about heart, MIND, and soul.
I never said mental illness isn't real. I said ADD is not a mental illness. Its a behavioral issue at best, and more often than that simply a cop-out.
 
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I never said mental illness isn't real. I said ADD is not a mental illness. Its a behavioral issue at best, and more often than that simply a cop-out.
You've been reading the DSM-5 again.
 

jsr1221

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I never said mental illness isn't real. I said ADD is not a mental illness. Its a behavioral issue at best, and more often than that simply a cop-out.

When you said "supposed mental illness", I got the impression you thought mental illness was a made up thing, and an excuse, because you finished your post by saying " People need an excuse for everything. It's pathetic." So, yes, it came across as you were saying mental illness isn't real. As far as ADD being a mental illness, I agree it's not. But, that doesn't mean ALL of those that do have ADD results in bad parenting, or eating sugary foods (which yes results in bad parenting, but hopefully you get my point.) The brain does play a part, so you can't group everyone. One of my biggest pet peeves as psych student.
 

blue_ladybug

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I can tell you factually and for certain it is less than 1%, but you won't believe that.

Why wouldn't I believe it? If you know it as a fact, then I'll take you at your word. :)

From the video, by your own admission, there was an altercation before the cuffs came out, and as has been pointed out to you, the officer was respectful, gentle, and professional, even while restraining the young man. The fact you don't like it is irrelevant.

I agree. It is irrelevant, but I'm not the only one who didn't like the video.

Had to get one last shot in at the police, didn't you? Your #BlackLivesMatter t-shirt and bumper sticker are in the mail.

It wasn't a shot at all. Even police officers like, and deserve to live in peace. :) And might I suggest you take a look at the article posted here a few minutes ago about the cop who planned a murder, and HID EVIDENCE? :/ And he gets to keep his job. :/ That's the system delivering justice for you.
And btw, ALL lives matter. Whether they are human or animal, and whether their black, white, red, yellow or blue. :) So the t-shirt and bumper sticker aren't needed.
 

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Perhaps if the little urchin had gotten some parenting at home this could have been avoided or mitigated to some extent.

Every child needs to be taught to respect authority. For some it is necessary to use more persuasive methods than for others.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
 
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What do you all think about this issue ???
if i was a cop and ordered to stomp my jack boots on the back of a 9yr olds neck and hand cuff em, i would tell em to shove it and turn in my badge.

I do know, however, that by age nine, I had been well taught by an Army Ranger, to be able to disarm most full grown men. We don't know what this kid was like.
willy when i was 9 i was playing starwars and hunting for bigfoot with my cousins. willy is so tough when he was a kid their were no years, they just called it hard times.
 
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I never said mental illness isn't real. I said ADD is not a mental illness. Its a behavioral issue at best, and more often than that simply a cop-out.
I've seen people who legitimately benefit from treatment for it... but the treatment ought to be a last resort if it's chemical.

And those people I've seen who have been medicated for it are in complete control of their actions without medication, they aren't mentally ill, they just focus better on medication.

It's a pretty lame excuse for anything. I suppose it's better than "the sun was in my eyes."
 
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if i was a cop and ordered to stomp my jack boots on the back of a 9yr olds neck and hand cuff em, i would tell em to shove it and turn in my badge.



willy when i was 9 i was playing starwars and hunting for bigfoot with my cousins. willy is so tough when he was a kid their were no years, they just called it hard times.
Well my childhood was a little different than most. By age nine, I was well into martial arts, got kicked out of a YMCA beginners shooter' class for shooting too well, knew how to drive, had started my flying lessons, won the Jaycee's Tarpon roundup, had met all the NY Yankee ball club and had the '53 series "cleanup" bat, and had ridden a little bull calf in a rodeo. My mother was a bit of a driven Mom. LOL
 

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I've seen people who legitimately benefit from treatment for it... but the treatment ought to be a last resort if it's chemical.

And those people I've seen who have been medicated for it are in complete control of their actions without medication, they aren't mentally ill, they just focus better on medication.

It's a pretty lame excuse for anything. I suppose it's better than "the sun was in my eyes."
I have seen people who are much better workers and more alert when they are on Meth...
It doesn't mean they are mentally ill, or bad workers... They are just better workers when high off meth... They can focus more, stay alert longer, and have more energy to complete the task...

(I make this analogy because I know what ridilin and other ADD and ADHD drugs are and do to children... )