Modesty is the only virtue that will stop your husband from cheating on you.

[Godson13]

Wait!?
If this is why men cheat then why do women cheat?
I mean..well idk..I'm not so sure I'd like my husband wearing makeup. Lol

men cheat not because you wear earrings but because the men are probably not true conservative christian men. only a true conservative christian man will not cheat on you. but to marry a conservative christian man you have to be modest otherwise he will not approach you as he will assume that you are one of those false christian/pagan women.

 

[Godson13]

I'm not going to defend godson, but I think the common theme is men want submissive kind women, but they opt for trinkets and a bad attitude.

You girls believe that men want a submissive woman. What i said was earrings and make up are immodest. I did not say i want a woman to bow to me. i could opt for the trinkets and bad attitude but if i do then i might as well get 4 women with trinkets and bad attitude.

 

[Godson13]

What book of the bible is that in? Must be the same one that says you need to follow all the rules, have long hair, wear it in a bun, not watch TV, play cards hmmm sounds like too many laws must be the old testament...

Sorry guys I jest and flirt with the line of sacrilegious but stuff like this is just ridiculous...stop adding to the book! After the Grace Chapter...we don't need any amendments...

Now here is the false preacher who says the old testament does not matter anymore because Jesus paid it all. Yes the bible says in the old testament that men should keep their hairs long but it didn't say anything about TV. This is not academics where you check a text book for every question. Earrings does not have to be in the bible before you should know it is wrong.
[FONT=&quot]1 TIMOTHY 2:9[/FONT] - IN LIKE MANNER ALSO, THAT WOMEN ADORN THEMSELVES IN MODEST APPAREL, WITH SHAMEFACEDNESS AND SOBRIETY; NOT WITH BROIDED HAIR, OR GOLD, OR PEARLS, OR COSTLY ARRAY.

What of those few denominations that don't wear earrings, why did they chose not to wear earrings? The chose not to because they know earrings are wrong.

 

[Godson13]

Now here is the false preacher who says the old testament does not matter anymore because Jesus paid it all. Yes the bible says in the old testament that men should keep their hairs long but it didn't say anything about TV. This is not academics where you check a text book for every question. Earrings does not have to be in the bible before you should know it is wrong.
1 TIMOTHY 2:9 - IN LIKE MANNER ALSO, THAT WOMEN ADORN THEMSELVES IN MODEST APPAREL, WITH SHAMEFACEDNESS AND SOBRIETY; NOT WITH BROIDED HAIR, OR GOLD, OR PEARLS, OR COSTLY ARRAY.

What of those few denominations that don't wear earrings, why did they chose not to wear earrings? The chose not to because they know earrings are wrong.

some details in the bible are traditional recommendations whilst some are warnings. keeping your hair long was a tradition of the Hebrews in the old testament and it can easily be established that it was more of a traditional recommendation than a clear warning. this is clearly different from piercing the temple of the holy spirit just so that you can wear earrings, piercing your ears makes you a lover of the world.

 

[Godson13]

Man. That OP is a bloated load of crap. Filled with personal issues about cheating. I'm guessing someone in his past? And rather than own up or recognize not all women are the same he makes up this ludicrous thinking that Christian wives cause their Christian husbands to cheat for not dressing modestly (at least by his standards).
Perhaps the way you view and talk about women is the reason you're single. And any man that quick to deny personal responsibility is a giant walking red flag waving high and bright in the air causing men to roll their eyes and women to run in terror.

What I said is not a bloated load of crap. It is the truth that makes deceivers and false Christians angry. "no wonder you are still single"? i can easily pick up immodest women like your gullible girlfriend but i am single because i have chosen to find a true, strict, conservative and modest christian woman. And I will find that true, strict, conservative and modest christian woman even if i have to wait till i am 40.

 

[Godson13]

So... the OP threw his grenade, sat back to watch the carnage, and fell asleep chuckling to himself, gleeful that he could elicit so many responses, and never responding himself again.

Well done!

Since when did the truth become a grenade? The truth is a grenade to only false Christians.

 

[Godson13]

I must be pretty immodest then. I wear makeup.

In all reality, being modest is something I strive for. However, makeup and earrings? I personally don't think that would make a woman immodest. Modesty is much more than dressing right. I try to be modest in my speech, in the way I dress, and in the way I act.

Now here is Joyce Meyer

 

[A_Friend_In_Christ]

False Christians like to say that what God has guided us and told us to do in the bible does not matter because we are free to do what ever we want?

What hippie pastor did you hear that from?

 

[Godson13]

Jesus humbled Himself and got down on the ground with the woman caught in adultery. And when Jesus got back up onto His feet, He lifted the woman up with Him. "Neither do I condemn you," He said to her, "Now go forth believing who I say you are in Me."

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Jesus is our White Knight, sister! \/ Hallelujah!

Every time men publicly judged women (e.g. the woman caught in adultery, the prostitute kissing Jesus’ feet, the Samaritan women at the well, the Canaanite woman asking for healing for her demon-possessed daughter, the old “unclean” woman who against Jewish Law touched Jesus’ robe in public, Rahab the harlot, etc.), Jesus would obliterate their condemnation by openly giving honor, love and respect to these women. Jesus always treated women tenderly.

If Jesus Christ the Lord demonstrates such tenderness, mercy and acceptance of all women, who are you Godson13 to publicly post such a judgmental slander of women who wear makeup and jewelry? Do you realize how self-righteous and unloving your statements appear to the entire site? Do you know that out of your heart, your mouth is speaking (or in this case, your typed words) against the Lord’s loving heart toward women?

Do you even realize that you’re putting faith in something other than God? And you’re telling women to focus on themselves, to focus on becoming something desirable for Christian men in order to be loved and accepted. That is contrary to Jesus’ teaching us to focus on Him alone and allowing Him to conform us into His image, male and female alike.

The submission you and some other men on this site blather on to women about contradicts Jesus’ submission. Jesus lifts women up in honor. Do you honestly believe your post reflects that? Women respond to love, respect and tenderness. Jesus tells husbands to surrender their lives to their wives and to lift them up, just as Christ lifts up the church and gave His life for it. Are you better than Jesus?

There are so many godly men on this site who reflect Jesus’ position toward women. We women know who they are and we praise God for them! The words they post don’t cause women to recoil in their spirits, but to blossom and grow in spiritual strength. These brothers treat us women with dignity and love, lifting us up above worldly judgments. They consider their sisters and protect us from carnal statements such as yours.

I recommend you ask God to search your heart and reveal your true motive. Because there is certainly nothing godly about men judging women by their outward appearance.

VERY WELL WRITTEN. HERE IS THE PROFESSIONAL FALSE PREACHER. MOST FALSE PREACHERS SPEAK AGGRESSIVELY AND YOU CAN EASILY TELL THAT THEY ARE FALSE PREACHERS, BUT VIOLETREIGNS IS A STEP ABOVE THESE FALSE PREACHERS BECAUSE SHE IS A PROFESSIONAL FALSE PREACHER. LOOK AT HOW SHE USED THE STORY OF THE PROSTITUTE TO JUSTIFY THE PIERCING OF EARS FOR EARRINGS SAKE. SHE IS TRYING TO USE THE BIBLE TO PORTRAY A TRUE PREACHER AS A BULLY THAT VICTIMIZES WOMEN. DID I JUDGE ANY ONE? WHAT I SAID WAS EARRINGS ARE WRONG, I DID NOT JUDGE AND HAVE NO RIGHT TO JUDGE ANYONE, BUT IT IS MY DUTY TO PREACH THE TRUTH THAT EARRINGS ARE WRONG. YES, JESUS FORGAVE THE PROSTITUTE BUT WHAT DID JESUS TELL HER? HE TOLD HER GO AND SIN NO MORE, I.E GO AND BE A PROSTITUTE NO MORE, I.E GO AND BE IMMODEST NO MORE.

SELF RIGHTEOUSNESS? SELF RIGHTEOUSNESS IS WHAT WAS PRACTICED BY THE PHARISEES IN THE OLD TESTAMENT BUT NOWADAYS FALSE PASTORS USE “SELF RIGHTEOUSNESS" TO DECEIVE MILLIONS TO HELL. THESE FALSE PASTORS DO THIS BY CRITICIZING PREACHERS THAT URGE PEOPLE TO LIVE IN A CHRISTIAN WAY. IF ANY PREACHER DARES SAY, "DON'T WEAR EARRINGS" OR "DON'T BE

IMMODEST" THEY COME OUT ACCUSING THE TRUE PREACHERS OF SELF RIGHTEOUSNESS.

NOW WHO SHOULD WE BELIEVE? SHOULD WE BELIEVE THE FALSE PREACHER THAT WANTS TO LURE MILLIONS OF PEOPLE TO HELL BY TELLING PEOPLE TO GO OUT AND PARTY,FORNICATE,DRINK, AND PIERCE THEIR EARS SINCE THE OLD TESTAMENT IS "NO LONGER RELEVANT". OR SHOULD WE BELIEVE THE TRUE PREACHER THAT KNOWS THAT THE SOCIETY TODAY IS CORRUPT AND IS PREACHING MODESTY AND URGING CHRISTIANS TO LIVE IN A MODEST WAY SO THAT THEY MAY NOT END UP IN HELL?

 

[Godson13]

Can you imagine a poor woman being married to a man like that? He seems so insecure.

God bless the woman that marries a true conservative christian man. Because he will care for her, love her, encourage her, remaining faithful from the day of marriage till the end and he will help her grow in her faith. But i am sorry for the woman that marries a false christian, who came to a christian chat network just to criticize the truth. true conservative christian women are desperately searching for men like me and these true conservative christian women know false christian men like you and they stay away from you.

 

[Godson13]

Modesty eh?

Godson, I'm praying for you man. You didn't get the memo the last time I talked to you I guess.

You will not find the woman you're looking for if you continue to have the bitterness you do. You'll scare them away. Light and darkness do not have fellowship with one another, and you are dark brother, very dark! So much anger, so much desire to control a woman.

Ephesians 5 is a lovely chapter. After the submission command, men get a bit of a raw deal towards the middle of the chapter
25Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it; 26That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word, 27That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish. 28So ought men to love their wives as their own bodies. He that loveth his wife loveth himself. 29For no man ever yet hated his own flesh; but nourisheth and cherisheth it, even as the Lord the church: 30For we are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones.


Yeah.... a submissive woman has the EASY end of the bargain. Christ died for the church.

Keep raging though,

Who is dark? the one that preaches the truth or the one that uses a skull and crossed bones symbol as a profile picture? I can see you have a skull and crossed bones as your profile picture so you have no right to comment.

 

[Godson13]

Well it's not about the laundry list of things to do or not do. That was in the Old Testament. Now it's about fellowship with God and Holy Spirit's guidance.

Guidelines for not focusing on the outward apparel, not trying to be attention seeker and seduce, or dont be proud with your looks are already there in the Bible. They apply to both men and women. There's no need for anyone to add to what is being said and add new commandments to the Word of God. It's God's job to convict a person if they are doing something with the wrong heart, because God looks on the heart. Everything not done out of faith is sin (Romans 14:23). If one believes earrings are sinful, they must make sure not to wear them. But for the person wearing earrings with honest faith, they are not committing sin according to the Bible. If they believe meat eating is sin, they must not eat it because they will be defiled... but if they truly believe it's clean, they are clean. I'm not inventing this from my head, just paraphrasing Romans chap. 14. Please reread it. It addresses things that are gray area and disputable because different people will have different convictions on them. It's not the same like convictions such as "lust is sin", "lying is sin", which are equal in all born again Christians. If the Bible does not call something out as sin or adds a rule, please be careful not to add your rules to the Word.

For some reason I was pretty sure you were not married - because this kind of posts typically comes from unmarried men - so I checked and I've indeed seen on your profile that you were not married, but you're speaking from a position of an overseer. Congregation leaders have always been "married to one wife". How anyone except an overseer, or a female elder, has the prerogative to instruct women in the church? It is unbiblical and unseemly for an unmarried young man, or anyone who is not a church overseer or elder, to instruct wives of other men and breach their authority. This would be unseemly even if the women were unmarried, but you're speaking to the married. Even apostle Paul, being an overseer to many churches, was careful to instruct and reprove women only when their husbands failed to do so and things got out of hand, and always respectfully left the guidance and teaching within the authority of their husbands. Please do not continue to make this kind of posts and you will do well redirect your energy in the church to where is proper and where your gifts are... teaching is not one of them.

I would also be very careful of addressing other believers as "stupid fools" for three reasons. First is that we do not know who goes up and who goes down, only God does (Rom 10:6-7). Second is that fool is the one who has said in his heart "there is no God" - Psalm 14 - so it's wrong to apply it to believers, and even that's the Spirit speaking and not man. Third, Jesus warned people who call a brother "you fool" to be in danger of hell fire (Matthew 5:22). Why, because of contempt for another creature of God that God might have already bought out with His blood and is sanctifying them, which is a process of growth and Jesus increasing in them.

Then, you seem to remove all the responsibility from husbands and blame the betrayed wives for being conned and cheated. (It wouldnt be an excuse for cheating even if she committed adultery!). Dont you know that with authority comes responsibility, and that man is in charge over his wife, but also responsible for his wife. Man be judged by a higher standard than the woman, but your post excuses male adultery. Just wow.

This OP is not standing right at all. It is not problematic that modesty is being commended, what is problematic is that there is no love of God in there, just a desire to exercise authority over others whom you perceive as inferiors. That woman that you condemned because of wearing earrings might not have had any evil thought in her heart regarding them so she did not sin according to the Word, and even if she stumbled and did put them on with a wrong motive, maybe she loves her neighbor far more than another person that doesnt wear earrings. So maybe it will be better with her than with you when the judgment comes. Remember that God forgives much to those who love much. I hate to say it, but have you been led by God to write this, it would have agreed with the Bible and it would be proper and your rightful place to speak.

Your attitude is the same as in Muslim lollipop analogies. Woman is a worthless object in this system and valued by what she does and not by who she is. Woe to us all if God valued us according to what we have done. This OP cries for love of God. I pray to God that you will NOT get married until you're disabused of these beliefs and start looking upon women with the eyes of God.

Another professional false preacher. Again, [FONT=&quot]Which one should I choose? One on hand you have a satanist who wants women to adore themselves with the immodesty of earrings and on the other hand you have islamists that abuse and victimise women. [/FONT]
Which one should i choose?

 

[Godson13]

The OP is without a doubt the most "unusual" post I have read in a LONG, long, long, long time.

Someone completely misguided and focusing on things that have literally nothing to do with a successful marriage.

I've been married for over 35 years, and my husband has never cheated on me, nor I on him. I have worn (SHOCK!!) earrings the entire time. My ears are pierced, and I like to keep the holes from healing over so they are in 24/7. In fact, for my 60th birthday, my husband bought me a pair of white gold earrings that are possiblly my favourite earrings ever!

He has also bought me a gold/diamond bracelet and gold necklaces and other beautiful things. He loves to see me look beautiful.

I am not a big makeup wearer, just a touch on Sunday for church. But always sun screen for my lips! I hope that doesn't count, since I seem to be failing the modesty test. I do agree that some women wear too much makeup. I was in Denny's last week, and there was a woman with eye lashes past her nose, and you couldn't see a single piece of her face, for all the makeup. She truly looked like a hooker, although the people she was with did not seem like people who would hang out with that sort of person. She was just misguided as to what looks nice, IMO.

I do not wear immodest clothes, but that is my preference, even before I was a Christian and I played in bars. In fact, I look back at our promo pictures for the band, and I dressed more conservatively then than now. Like being covered from the top of my neck to the bottom of my toes. I still love long skirts, but since the are impractical, I have opted for below the knee skirts.

So, my husband adorns me with jewellry, and he has never cheated. He is a wonderful man, who loves God, and me. And his whole family, including our children, grandchildren and his birth family.

Basically, anyone who is moral and decent will not cheat on their wives. My father did not become a Christian till he was 82, and he never cheated on my mother and was madly in love with her till the day he died.

OK, I'm ranting. This is the stupidest, most ill informed post I have ever read. And not even a single Bible verse to back him up. (I know this is not the BDF, but seriously, if you are going to come in, with guns blazing, an unmarried man making definitive statements about marriage and modesty, he better have some firm evidence behind him!)

I doubt you are a true christian. If you are a true christian and you have questions in regards to whether earrings are wrong then you will not come out insulting. Instead you will ask politely. By coming out and calling a honest and true post stupid clearly shows are not a true christian. So you said your husband bought you earrings and he did not cheat on you, how did you know he never cheated on you? Were you with him 24/7? Its like you are one of those immodest girls that let all the good and true conservative christian men go when you were young because of your pride and hardheadedness. So you were now left to marry one of those false christian men who you know cheat on you but you tolerate him cheating on you because after all he still comes home and he is still a father to the children and you can still tell your friend that “there is my husband” even though you know he is cheating on you.
However if your husband is a true Christian which i doubt and if your husband never cheated on you, which i doubt then may be your husband is one of those that are ignorant.

 

[Godson13]

Pretty impressive trolling I'd say. One post and he got six pages of people yelling at him.

6 pages showing the opinions angry false Christians, but how come i have had over 400 likes, it shows that there are still some true Christians out there.

 

[Mitspa]

Amen Brother!

 

[Mitspa]

Amen Brother!

Lynx......

 

[Godson13]

Angela:

Thank you for thanking the time to reply to this thread in the single's forum. I know that you rarely reply to any threads here because you are married and not single. However, singles really need to hear from Christians with long-standing and healthy marriages. It reminds us that marriage is actually doable, and it gives many of us that glimmer of hope.



Unfortunately, it's really not all that unusual for this sub-section (singles) of CC. We recently had a thread here that was so opinionated (not Biblically supported) and offensive to women (and men) that the mods here didn't just close that thread, but they deleted it altogether.

The good thing is that many of the singles here (male and female alike) are very savvy, so they quickly recognize that these threads don't line up with the Bible.

I want to echo a comment that Violetreigns posted:



I couldn't have said it any better. Many of the brothers in the singles forum have consistently made a stand against OPs like this one and defended their Christian sisters and what the Bible actually teaches. Like Violetreigns, I also recognize who those brothers are and I appreciate their words very much. We need more brothers like them in the Christian community.

Angela please don't be a stranger in the singles forum. There are a few married people who post here on a regular basis because they have some valuable insight to share. Angela - you have a lot of life experience, marriage experience and resulting wisdom, and sometimes we singles need to glean from that. Thanks again.

Ha ha ha ha....(i am laughing) . i know the truth hurts you. you don't want women to know that earrings are wrong so that they can end up in hell. You claimed that Many of the brothers in the singles forum have consistently made a stand against OPs like this one. You will rather set Barabbas free than set Jesus free. You will rather love men here that encourage immodesty than love the men that preach modesty. This shows are not a true christian. I am sure that the men you referred to are probably not true Christians, so go and marry them. i guess you have got your match in them.

 

[Mitspa]

Ha ha ha ha....(i am laughing) . i know the truth hurts you. you don't want women to know that earrings are wrong so that they can end up in hell. You claimed that Many of the brothers in the singles forum have consistently made a stand against OPs like this one. You will rather set Barabbas free than set Jesus free. You will rather love men here that encourage immodesty than love the men that preach modesty. This shows are not a true christian. I am sure that the men you referred to are probably not true Christians, so go and marry them. i guess you have got your match in them.

Guy you sure do make it hard for real Christian men to discuss issues that relate to men and women... I think your really a woman sent here to make us men all look like cavemen.

 

[Godson13]

To those women here that are critical, how will you feel if your husband wore earrings and lipsticks. Wont he look like a fool? So if your husband will look like a fool with earrings and lipsticks then whats stops you from looking like a fool when you wear earrings and lipsticks? Are women allowed to look like fools? Also when i marry and remain a faithful Christian husband i am fulfilling my own duty in the christian marriage , i am honoring the christian marriage but if you dishonor that christian marriage by being immodest and you decide to break the pure Christian marriage contract by giving me earrings and lipsticks then why should i have only one immodest woman with earrings and lipsticks when i can have 4 immodest women with earrings and lipsticks. Of course this will never happen to me because i will not marry an immodest christian woman in the first place. Only a conservative christian man will not cheat on you, but to get a true conservative christian man you have to be modest otherwise he will not approach you.

 

[Mitspa]

To those women here that are critical, how will you feel if your husband wore earrings and lipsticks. Wont he look like a fool? So if your husband will look like a fool with earrings and lipsticks then whats stops you from looking like a fool when you wear earrings? Are women allowed to look like fools? Also when i marry and remain a faithful Christian husband i am fulfilling my own duty in the marriage , i am honoring the christian marriage but if you dishonor that christian marriage by being immodest and you decide to break the pure Christian marriage contract by giving me earrings and lipsticks then why should i have only one immodest woman with earrings and lipsticks when i can have 4 immodest women with earrings and lipsticks. Of course this will never happen to me because i will not marry an immodest christian woman in the first place. Only a conservative christian man will not cheat on you, but to get a true conservative christian man you have to be modest otherwise he will not approach you.

This is your argument?