If you believe in OSAS, please answer a few questions for me.
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Again, woulld you call someone "dude" to the man who was going to hire you in a job interview? Would you call your boyfriend's father "dude" the first time you met him? That's what I am talking about. You just do not say that to people you are trying to make a good impression with that you never met or have known before.
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So you are saying you would call someone "dude" in a job interview?
And what point am I missing exactly?
Do you not believe it is wrong to call people names even if they find those words disrespectful (Despite your disagreement)? What if your grandma told you she did not like you saying a certain word around her (that you thought was okay)? Would you just keep saying that word despite her?
It's called being considerate of others.
But this is no way has to do with it being incorrect for me to state my beliefs and to say that a certain belief is wrong. Disagreeing should not be equated with a wrong emotion or personal attack.
And what point am I missing exactly?
Do you not believe it is wrong to call people names even if they find those words disrespectful (Despite your disagreement)? What if your grandma told you she did not like you saying a certain word around her (that you thought was okay)? Would you just keep saying that word despite her?
It's called being considerate of others.
But this is no way has to do with it being incorrect for me to state my beliefs and to say that a certain belief is wrong. Disagreeing should not be equated with a wrong emotion or personal attack.
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we do people keep responding to this man? He continually does this type of crap. He misses the main point, and wants to focus on nonsense, which has nothing to do with what we are trying to say. or the topic.
(my step son calls his mother dude, and his boss dude, He will say "dude" to everyone, no matter what, He got a job, even though jason said he guaranteed no one would get a job doing this) so again, this poster jusst wants to argue,
I firmly believe he just likes to see himself argue, because it makes him feel good or something.
Well, if you take note, I was on topic until someone started to make a personal inquisition against me. As for the real issue we need to discuss, why do you think I asked the questions in the first place that started this thread? Why do you think I replied to people's answers? Why did people really not answer certain questions that I put forth? The heart of the question is: How can God condone someone's sin if you believe in a sin and still be saved doctrine? Would that not be like a father who condone's their son's crime by allowing him to get away with it?
Ii will be happy to discuss this, but nobody in the OSAS camp really seems to be able to know how to answer such a question, though.
Ii will be happy to discuss this, but nobody in the OSAS camp really seems to be able to know how to answer such a question, though.
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For every house is builded by some {man}; but he that built all things {is} God.
And Moses verily {was} faithful in all his house, as a servant, for a testimony of those things which were to be spoken after;
But Christ as a son over his own house; whose house are we, if we hold fast the confidence and the rejoicing of the hope firm unto the end.
Wherefore (as the Holy Ghost saith, To day if ye will hear his voice,
Harden not your hearts, as in the provocation, in the day of temptation in the wilderness:
When your fathers tempted me, proved me, and saw my works forty years.
Wherefore I was grieved with that generation, and said, They do alway err in {their} heart; and they have not known my ways.
So I sware in my wrath, They shall not enter into my rest.) {They...: Gr. If they shall enter}
Take heed, brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief, in departing from the living God.
But exhort one another daily, while it is called To day; lest any of you be hardened through the deceitfulness of sin.
For we are made partakers of Christ, if we hold the beginning of our confidence stedfast unto the end;
While it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts, as in the provocation.
For some, when they had heard, did provoke: howbeit not all that came out of Egypt by Moses.
But with whom was he grieved forty years? {was it} not with them that had sinned, whose carcases fell in the wilderness?
And to whom sware he that they should not enter into his rest, but to them that believed not?
So we see that they could not enter in because of unbelief.
Hebrews 3:4-19
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he does not even understand eternal security, he proves that by all the false informations he gives concerning what he things eternal security means, and all his false accusations against those who believe in the true gospel of eternal grace.
since he is lost as to what true eternal security is, he does not even realise, he is fighting a FALSE interpretation of OSAS and were it not for his blindness to the true meaning of osas. instead of having us fight right next to him the false aspect. He remains blind to the truth. (and actually is used of satan to even hurt our fight against the licentious gospel he himself is fighting)
since he is lost as to what true eternal security is, he does not even realise, he is fighting a FALSE interpretation of OSAS and were it not for his blindness to the true meaning of osas. instead of having us fight right next to him the false aspect. He remains blind to the truth. (and actually is used of satan to even hurt our fight against the licentious gospel he himself is fighting)
For every house is builded by some {man}; but he that built all things {is} God.
And Moses verily {was} faithful in all his house, as a servant, for a testimony of those things which were to be spoken after;
But Christ as a son over his own house; whose house are we, if we hold fast the confidence and the rejoicing of the hope firm unto the end.
Wherefore (as the Holy Ghost saith, To day if ye will hear his voice,
Harden not your hearts, as in the provocation, in the day of temptation in the wilderness:
When your fathers tempted me, proved me, and saw my works forty years.
Wherefore I was grieved with that generation, and said, They do alway err in {their} heart; and they have not known my ways.
So I sware in my wrath, They shall not enter into my rest.) {They...: Gr. If they shall enter}
Take heed, brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief, in departing from the living God.
But exhort one another daily, while it is called To day; lest any of you be hardened through the deceitfulness of sin.
For we are made partakers of Christ, if we hold the beginning of our confidence stedfast unto the end;
While it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts, as in the provocation.
For some, when they had heard, did provoke: howbeit not all that came out of Egypt by Moses.
But with whom was he grieved forty years? {was it} not with them that had sinned, whose carcases fell in the wilderness?
And to whom sware he that they should not enter into his rest, but to them that believed not?
So we see that they could not enter in because of unbelief.
Hebrews 3:4-19
OSAS leads people into thinking they can sin and still be saved. That is a licentious gospel. For you take away the consequences of sin, then people can think they can commit suicide and be saved and or do other wrong things and be saved. Many here have already admitted openly in a poll that they can die in unrepentant sin and still be saved.
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Ohhhh grace from heaven and 27 angels I need you now to control my tongue!
You are kidding me right Jason?
Surely you jest?
They spit on Jesus...accuse him of sex with Mary Magdalene now which is blasphemous and discusting not true!
Yet YOU demand proper respect
When someone calls you 'dude'
This is comical
Im sorry
Purely comical
You are kidding me right Jason?
Surely you jest?
They spit on Jesus...accuse him of sex with Mary Magdalene now which is blasphemous and discusting not true!
Yet YOU demand proper respect
When someone calls you 'dude'
This is comical
Im sorry
Purely comical